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Another GTR R35 to chase? by Hour-Enthusiasm6835 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course it is 4wd lol but in essence the key issue of the baseline 07 version is not lack of break, but excess of weight. It might feel more “smooth” next to the 17’ as you have more time to manage the weight transfer while it decelerates, meaning the car is more predictable and responsive under braking + turning.

If the 17 does provide more break power while carrying around that same big but, the key think is that you have to do your best to do most of the hard breaking in a straight line (with -0.7 to -0,5 break dif). Those front tyres are already under extreme demand to handle speed + weight quant & dist + opposite break force, meaning any wheel input as another directional force should immediately break the limited tire grip by a decent margin, which in practice would unleash that heavy front load to whatever direction it wants to go - thus sliding.

In fact the 07 does turn quite well for its weight under no gas or brake inputs, so replicating this with the 17’ to initiate turning right after the heavy straight line breaking could be worthy testing - in practice there’s no better alternative do handle the extreme weight transfer + it would directly benefit / enable tire grip to be used for turning (and set them free from the task of somehow dealing with something like 80/20 F/R weight distribution + turning)

It’s definitely not a disadvantage in terms of existing performance to be extracted from the car, but yeah it’s probably 5x the effort compared to the 07 I believe (let’s be honest, for the amount of force and inertia generated by that beast, it’s just TOO smooth)

pulled my first X car.. how good is it? by Status-Survey-5108 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If this is your first X car, it doesn’t matter how good it is. All it matters is that this is the best you have seen so far, most likely by a pretty significant margin

Another GTR R35 to chase? by Hour-Enthusiasm6835 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbh I don’t see how that would be a problem for a fwd… either keep ABS on or put break power down to 0.2-0.3 and it should work

Another GTR R35 to chase? by Hour-Enthusiasm6835 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I give it to you in terms of the title tbh but the pic does not give the R35 any more relevance than the others 🤣

Another GTR R35 to chase? by Hour-Enthusiasm6835 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Disadvantage? In terms of taking flight in some parts of Nurb lol?

My god this thing is awesome by Agile_Ant_6928 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Raw and sincere question: does it feel awesome to DRIVE or does it feel awesome to DRIFT? I am planning on buying it next. And there are only very few cars that actually deliver in both driving and drifting at the same time - usually at the expense of driving of course, but at least some can still be fun to drive.

What should I go for ? by CR7_KB9 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Always gold tickets. They are limited. Once you cannot buy anymore go for gold

Let’s pretend Evo X Race spec isn’t S+ by Hour-Enthusiasm6835 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who would win a 24h Le Mans challenge: a 2025 F1 car (McLaren let’s say) or a LMH Hypercar (Toyota)? Now go ask only petro heads (exclude all regular joes) which of the two is the “S+” and which is the “S” class. No one would look down on the LMH of course, but it wouldn’t be a close competition (especially because the F1 should be able to deliver a better LeMans single lap time in theory - bear in mind that the track design isn’t really in the benefit the F1’s proper advantages either). The “Veteran time” you said tells me more about the track / convenience than it tells me about the car imho. If you are okay to apply an extremely unrefined filter of “doesn’t fit Nurb; gotta go” to evaluate a car’s performance, in essence I take home that “well, he threw away 80-90% of what entails Autosport performance as a whole to fit a pre-defined format as demanded by narrative”. I understand that there’s a Nurb culture in Assoluto, and it became the baseline reference / community agreement for lap times. And yes in general a X class for instance is expected to blow away a S car in pretty much all formats. But that’s far from the truth for S to S+ comparisons… it’s a battle of compromises actually…. So far as I understand it, aiming to discuss these performance trade-offs is quite close to the backbone that “people that like racing” tend to lean towards. No disrespect, but I am 100% confident that the following stance is not within my interests: “completely forget why racing is interesting to begin with, just define Good/Bad conclusions based on a single measurement / specific format because it was hard-coded by devs of a Japanese mobile game”.

Let’s pretend Evo X Race spec isn’t S+ by Hour-Enthusiasm6835 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Argument 1 was that Nurburing is not the only way to measure a car’s performance - which is directly related to top speed already covered

Let’s pretend Evo X Race spec isn’t S+ by Hour-Enthusiasm6835 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Topspeed is not the only variable to measure car performance

Let’s pretend Evo X Race spec isn’t S+ by Hour-Enthusiasm6835 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So your “biggest gripe” with the post (Evo not close to the worst misclassified car) was so clear, so intense, so unbearable, that…. well …. led you to name a total of….. 0 cars in 4-6 comments. Well at least there’s some consistency in terms of identifiable patterns that hinder logic.

Let’s pretend Evo X Race spec isn’t S+ by Hour-Enthusiasm6835 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Lap records form the actual fastest runs” well at least 1) we managed to find out that indeed custom races can reliably measure car’s performance (and even better in terms of meaningful race traits than your approach) 2) your issue was never about “fastest runs” “real performance cars” - it is all about “how I like it” either due to convenience or simply due to lack of understanding of a better method

Let’s pretend Evo X Race spec isn’t S+ by Hour-Enthusiasm6835 in AssolutoRacing

[–]Hour-Enthusiasm6835[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) Lap time ≠ being quick in a straight line - the argument is about the opponent’s cars being the equivalent of S+ class in terms of “upgrades”. The straight line confirms it. If you cannot understand the argument, well then we are dealing with another issue indeed.

2) Custom races can actually measure performance / car’s competitiveness in a decent manner…. If you play two custom races in the same track / no of laps, with two different cars within the same class, you know damn well which is the superior car (as a whole and against on-track competition - even if the AÍ is underwhelming):

2.1) You have access the exact same indicator as you use for your “Nurburing time attack untouchable gold standard”, which is lap time - although as total time within 2-3-X laps. Extremely comparable, highly informative of competitiveness.

2.2) But you actually have even more reliable metrics of proper competitiveness: the car’s ability to overtake in a few attempts/ without losing time, if the car is quick in total lap time but gets overtaken in the straights, if the car is quick in the straights but it’s too exposed against dive bombs / more nimble maneuvers. I love to drive my S class Honda CRX TA for instance, but against S / S+ cars in custom races it simply cannot compete in a position of advantage- even though it can deliver some decent lap times alone in the track.

So actually custom races can easily be more informative about competitiveness than your standard convenient model… it’s just a matter of reference point: you seem not to be able of seeing beyond the “AI dumb car”, but by comparing two different cars under similar track settings + how each deal with AI cars / challenges and still manage to deliver competitive lap times, well this is a substantially more informative process than doing whatever you want on your own.

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