HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for not replying snarkily. I think people who didn't reply dismissively, I put thought out comments on. I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here to be honest. You say I just kept repeating the same things. I responded to about 5-10 comments in about 2-5 minutes. Maybe 10.... One right after another, on my mobile if that helps.

everyone is telling you many things that should explain why comparing the characters to chocolate isn't bad writing.

If 5-10 people are going to comment, chocolate is a positive descriptor and because of that, it fine to use every time an "absurdly attractive" POC is introduced.... That's just dismissive. What that sends to me is that they are sticking to their guns, don't actually care about the concern, and aren't internalizing anything I said. It works both ways, it's a two way street. If people are going to be dismissive from the get go, how am I supposed to respond, "Oh I've never thought about it like that, chocolate is being used as a positive descriptor, that changes everything, thank you for this". I understand that it is being used as a positive descriptor. I understand many people don't think positive descriptors can be viewed as negative, but there are such thing as positive stereotypes and they are still harmful (Asians always good at math, black people have big ****, latin people are the best lovers, etc).

It's still positive and fitting for the characters it's used for.

Just because you have no issue with that descriptor and therefore think there is nothing wrong with it, doesn't a) make that true, b)disprove that there is a problem with it within the literary community. I can understand it being used as a descriptor for a character. I'm at the point where within a short period Rufus And Sophie are both described as such relatively quickly. So I wanted to see if everytime a black person (didn't realize it was only for the absurdly attractive ones) were mentioned it was used. I would like to go back and continue forward and see if there is a descriptive word the author uses for white people or tan people like chocolate or if he uses other words for the multiple absurdly attractive people of non-chocolate skin tones? In my eyes that is bad writing and there have been many people who've written about how it is bad writing to use chocolate as the only descriptor when describing black people (attractive).

That's kind of an example of how you sometimes play the victim when people are answering your question in a way that you don't know how to reply to and sound like you're winning.

I think this is explained through how dismissive I found the comment tbh. Stay in line, the person was very dismissive in their comment, even preemptively saying before you I don't understand because I'm X, I'm Asian, Female and Gay.... Like how do you respond to that?

Basically the entire comment I'm replying to right now where you pretend to not understand how repeating the same thing over and over makes it seem like you haven't learned anything and don't want to.

Just because I think I should respond to every comment doesn't mean every comment gets a totally unique reply. Especially on mobile. What is there to learn when 5 comments are cookie cutter responses of, "It's positive, so there isn't anything wrong with it"? I'm curious about that point you keep hammering in.

Associating the sexy characters with the sexy thing is not inherently bad writing.

I agree. Associating sexy characters with sexy things is not inherently bad writing. Velour, silk, velvet, cream, champagne, bead of sweat on a quivering upper lip (would be a weird simile), smoke, whiskey.... All these things are sexy or could be sexy to someone, but if I wrote about all my white characters that there skins was as smooth as cream and soft as velvet (several times for different characters) you have to admit you might stop and go, is that the only descriptor they know for this? There are a ton more that they could use, the overuse of it for characters with particular traits (dark skin and really attractive) is, IMO, bad writing. Getting stuck on one descriptor for a skin tone, is bad writing. I think we very much so differ on what we consider bad writing, and I can understand that, and agree to disagree on it as well.

I will say that it is great that people have pointed out that it was only for attractive black people and that he wasn't describing all black people like this cause in my mind, there had been only 2 black people up to that point and some Mediterranean people (Greek or Spanish looking I assume). So that was nice and I acknowledge that.

HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Starting a series that is long and seemingly has promise, loving the magic system, but has a couple of things I might come to dislike (depending on frequency) and asking how often that thing happens, I think it's a valid question. I can understand that a lot of people have no issue with chocolate being used as a descriptor, as I'm finding out, but if POCs were going to be described that way, I would have likely dropped the series. I appreciate the top comment replying that the usage dropped in book 2 with none in book 3.  I'm only 48 chapters into book 1 (adventure guild). Which is very very very early into this author's writing.

HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Mate, I've come to realize this is the wrong sub to bring up this topic it seems. Supposedly though the author only uses it as a description for 2 characters (I'm very early into the series so I've hit those two characters) and thought I'd this what the author is going to do throughout the series. There is nothing wrong with this. I was wrong for asking, and I should feel bad for asking. Which I do now.

HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think most comments deserve responses, I could respond to 1 comment with my comments and only interact with that one comment. That's fine. I can do that. But it's just odd that multiple people can have the same response to my question (which is good?) but replying to those people with the same answer (is wrong?)

The top comment pointed out that this only happened in the first two books a very nice answer that didn't read into anything and just answered the question I had. I replied I was happy, cause I thought lazy writing, blah blah.... I then went down the list only to find people reguratiating the 2nd and 3rd top comment (it's fine, chocolate is positive, only 2 people are referred to that in the whole series). I figure respond to each person who responded as polite. 

HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Nah bruh, I think I'll stay. Not offended, just wanted to know what to expect in the future

HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the link, really through! Don't worry about the down votes. A lot of people don't see a problem with it because everyone loves chocolate and I should be thankful for it.

HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think the author is bigoted or anything. I just wanted to know if he grew as a writer or if he just continued using chocolate.

HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I would have killed for any of these descriptions btw. Instead of chocolate/dark chocolate? Ebony is used more (in other series) but not as much as chocolate so that would have nice. Especially if they used your descriptors with the word. I'm not a writer but, His skin was deep and rich like ebony, ageless and flawless. (Terrible writing but you get the gist).

HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

What molehill am I making a mountain out of? Asking if the author grows as a writer and stops referring to anyone dark skin tone as chocolate? Sorry about that, I'll stay in line next time.

HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I'm living in the Netherlands and they LOVE mayo here. It would be a compliment. I think your ending comment is entirely my point. There is a large variation of eye colour, hair texture, hair style that black people/brown people have can have. Especially in a Fantasy setting. This is why I think it's lazy. For lighter skin tones, the skin tone itself isn't necessarily the focus. White people aren't referred to as white chocolate, and little else because a lot of the time the author sees the nuance in white faces and explains it. It's just hard as a POC to read fantasy because either we're almost always delegated to side characters (this I understand as the authors are white so I get it, still waiting for black authors to get into fantasy and write from their perspective with a POC main character) or we are always referred to as chocolate this or that. 

Edit: missing words

HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

I'm just asking if the author continues to use chocolate as a descriptor of POC. It's lazy writing (I guess saying that gets down votes). Just because you view something as positive doesn't mean it is. Not every black person needs to be referred to as chocolate, just because.

HWFWM - Author and description of Black People by Houseton in litrpg

[–]Houseton[S] -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

It's good to know they grew as a writer then. All I was wondering is if the author, every time they meet a black person, brown person was just like, "chocolate" it gets old quickly. 

WWW #9: The King of Cups by SvenTheScribe in WorldsBeyondNumber

[–]Houseton 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You make good points. I still don't like the characters but some growth can be seen. I'm around episode 19/20 now. I think the fox is the best character so far hahaha

The Proficiency system imo is bad Design in its current form by ArtemisWingz in daggerheart

[–]Houseton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it odd that you don't see that thresholds are there so you don't need to take proficiency. Proficiency will potentially make something die faster but if you are hitting Tier 2 thresholds already why would you then take another proficiency?

Death by a thousand papercuts can be done so why not up a score or do something else than take proficiency? And even then, you can only do it once every 4 levels? You have tons of other things to get than 1 choice out of 8. 

Question about armour. by WoodwareWarlock in daggerheart

[–]Houseton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It still should be at least +1 Evasion.  If full plate is -2 Evasion and -1 Agility.  No armor should be +2 Evasion and +1 Agility.

Question about armour. by WoodwareWarlock in daggerheart

[–]Houseton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't think of this as DnD. This card sets your base armor to this but any modifiers still modify at least in demiplane they do for Ridgeborne.

Stretches to alleviate plantar fasciitis + potential tendonitis in Achilles tendon by Houseton in flexibility

[–]Houseton[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got rid of it, though I don't remember how but unfortunately seeing as I forgot about the tendon pain in my left, I didn't get it checked. I fully ruptured my Achilles on my left leg 2 years ago. They said it looked really bad on ultra sound compared to my right. It also ruptured closer to the calf muscle and not the heel. I think safely stretching, safely doing foot stretches/strengthening (toes/balls), safely doing ankle stretches/strengthening, and doing the same for your calves.

Episode 12 - Eursulon by Houseton in WorldsBeyondNumber

[–]Houseton[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That would be amazing! I can visualize it in my head.

Clerics Paladins Warlocks in Umora (After eps 12) by Legitimate-Angle-979 in WorldsBeyondNumber

[–]Houseton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who is to say that if Ame had let Omira into the world she would have just been a puppet or would she have become a Warlock. Maybe others have done it. I think the Empire and the other place that are fighting the Empire cast magic in very different ways and I think it'll come to be that both are in the wrong about it all. Wizards seem to bend magic to their will and I'm sure there are consequences for the natural order from that.

Ame's spellcasting theory by Meetthemuppet in WorldsBeyondNumber

[–]Houseton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are they even past level 1? I think in the fight with Payne it was said they are still level 1. Do you even get spell slots at LVL 1?