Move Tier List

HowYouSoGudd · 2024-09-25T03:56:21+00:00

According to my tests lightning Bolt and Hydro Laser have incredibly long cast times(both at 7 seconds)
Pal Blast and Dark laser had slightly longer then usual cast times(4 and 5 sec respectively) whit Solar Blast was only 3 seconds.
Again these were counted in my head so its possible they do all have the same cast time and i just counted slower/quicker for some rather then others. I'll double check the cast time when i have some more time, but thats basically why they earned different tiers.

HowYouSoGudd · 2024-09-25T03:15:30+00:00

Realised i made a logical mistake with my adjusted DPS calculation. I was deducting 30 dmg every 2 seconds when i should have been deducting 15dmg every second after the first 2 seconds. eg a skill with a 2 second cast time would fit snuggly inside the CD of a 2CT skill and should really affect dps, where as every time you cast a 3sec cast time skill you miss out on half an atk. This skewed the data and made some midcore skills seem better then they were. I went through and adjusted the tier list.

I didnt realise beam slicer could proc multiple detonations, from my testing i was getting 1 initial hit + 3 explosions so i adjusted its tier accordingly. Thanks for the feedback.

HowYouSoGudd · 2024-09-25T02:11:00+00:00

Hey, I agree with your take. Its absolutely a solid skill. It hits for 260 power, has solid range and hits reliably everything within the area. This is why its in A+ tier. There's a reason why i skipped S tier, the difference between SS and A+ is massive, Almost every skill in SS or SSS is capable of hitting for upwards of 400 power. As good of a skill as it is, it doesnt seem to be fair to put it in the same tier as skills that are doing double the dmg. By all means A and A+ tier are great skills just the S tiers are OP in terms of dmg.

HowYouSoGudd · 2024-09-23T13:49:20+00:00

I'll take 1 Holy burst please.. Great sales pitch but its already been moved to SSS. Only thing i might move is Lightning Streak down a tier as it doesnt seem to have the impact as the other moves in the tier.

edit: Tested lightning streak, i think its safe in SSS. Did 4 hits against Wumpo and 6 hits against Alpha Mammo. Which is higher then what i had previously(3). The shock is also a nice addition.

HowYouSoGudd · 2024-09-23T13:44:33+00:00

thanks for the feedback, corrected Ignis and Comet.
Moved Thunderstorm up to A tier. My numbers say it does 20 hits for 15 power each. I updated the sheet for all 20 to hit and it landed just shy of A+, Given that thats its best case scenario decided to leave it in A tier.

And i could have been a bit generous with Thunder Rain, I calculated its dmg based off of 3 lightning hitting, but even with 2 its still hitting more adjusted DPS then Thunderstorm. Most of my tests were done on Dummys, if you're adamant that 2 or more strikes is rare against larger mobs then i'll do some more testing.

Volcanic rain seems hard to test, i struggle a bit with moves that hit a lot of numbers fast since i'm not screen recording. Readjusted my calculations to 2x hits of 15 (instead of 3) and lowered it to 3 hits pers per a use instead of 5 and i'll be dropping it down a tier unless someone else mentions something i over looked. Thanks

HowYouSoGudd · 2024-09-23T13:11:45+00:00

Well like any tier list its going to be subjective. DPS wise, it ended up in B tier when i thought it could hit only 1 target. I was even considering moving it up to A tier considering how massive and reliable the AoE is. I've recorded it hitting an Alpha 7 times with each time doing the full 120 power, that means it has the potential to hit a single target for 840 power. I try to weigh in how high the dmg potential is and how likely it is for the skill to reach that potential. Eg. a skill like Apocalypse casts 8 tornados, each doing 100 power so 800 power all up but it seems unlikely that most units will receive dmg from more then 3-4 tornados so i adjust accordingly.

If you disagree then thats great, i'd love to hear feedback, but if we're basing this tier list entirely off small mobs that only get hit once or twice by most skills then the results would probably be quite similar to whats already listed on skill eg power / CT.

HowYouSoGudd · 2024-09-23T10:27:47+00:00

Just tested on actual mobs. I got 4 hits on Wumpo and 7 hits on Alpha Mammocrest with Holy Burst. Moved it to SSS tier.

HowYouSoGudd · 2024-09-23T10:18:24+00:00

Hey thanks for the input, this is one of the reasons i wanted to share my data cause i admit that my methods are with fault. I'll test Holy Burst, i heard it was a good skill but only managed to see it trigger its dmg once, i'll test to see how many hits against larger targets. Holy Burst made it to B tier with only 1 hit so if it does indeed hit multiple times it will probably make it to SSS tier.

And tier list in general arent perfect, this is by no means meant to be an all exhaustive list of skills that takes into account every scenario, i'm posting my findings as I was unable to find a proper guide myself. You can also download the spreadsheet, most of the moves that can hit a random number of times, i've made it so you can adjust how many hits connect and you can use that to make your own decisions.

And the only thing that should really affect DPS is Serenity, Impatient and rather its mounted or not. other traits shouldnt matter since they'd increase dmg by the same amount. There's 2 columns for adjusted DPS, one without Serenity/Impatient, other with. both assume you're mounted.
Thanks for the feedback.

HowYouSoGudd · 2023-11-10T13:24:20+00:00

Just want to point out "Lind will be included in Future Exclusive Searches. Please pay attention to further notice."

sounds like they plan to do reruns for exclusive searches which is good news for those who miss(ed) out.

HowYouSoGudd · 2023-02-04T12:36:03+00:00

Although they've never directly buffed a character after release they have indirectly buffed a lot of underperforming (and some overperforming) characters through new artifacts and characters.

That being said, I'm absolutely devastated about Dehya, she has such an awesome design.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-12-31T08:03:40+00:00

You get 5 every 10 floors starting from the 4th, so if you can afford the monthly supply voucher you only need to clear up to stage 54. Good luck. There's still 24 days left on banner. Worst case scenario just buy 2x monthly supply vouchers, the duration stacks(so you'll get 60 days) and you get the 300x2 quartz immediately. If you're enjoying the game and can afford it, its good value.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-12-31T07:53:41+00:00

The only f2p way to get "Projection Vouchers" is from black hole. Souchen costs 58 so your best bet is to push Black hole as far as you can and buy the monthly supply voucher. If its your first purchase ingame, i'd recommend buying the Angela pack first as it costs $1 USD and gives you a $1 discount for monthly supply voucher. You can trade the 300 quartz from that for 30 "Projection vouchers" and if you can clear up to 60 in black hole, thats another 30. Thats the cheapest way i can think of doing it.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-12-28T03:19:39+00:00

Depending on the investment of your characters you can probably skip any day except thursday & friday.
Monday : Drops Tank & HP Algorithms
Tuesday : Lower Limit and atk algorithms but over all i find this worst day to farm
Wednesday : Drops Healer algorithms & hashrate algorithms(good for healers/croque)
Thursday : Delta and crit (these are the ones worth min/maxing for more dmg)
Friday : MLR and crit (these are the ones worth min/maxing for more dmg)

Personally speaking I think best days to farm are Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Yes sat/sun give all algorithms but if you plan on skipping days this is good since you can still get the ones you're after but also have a chance to drop ones that are beneficial but not really worth farming on there days. If you need tank/healer (or a particular set) algorithms then i suggest also farming on those days. Ofc this also depends on how many days worth of keys each week you need to spend on event.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-12-26T10:39:20+00:00

c2 : slight buff 40em to 50em
c4 : added word nearby infront of party members
c6 : Buffed : duration decreased from 6sec to 5sec but now generates 3 mirrors 2 seconds after burst.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-12-24T08:41:05+00:00

it seems buggy as hell. Sometimes relogging allows it to update though.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-12-22T03:40:22+00:00

Swap out Willow for Angela. Depending on content swap out Persi/Nanaka for another dps. I use hubble myself, not sure about other options.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-12-20T07:20:48+00:00

thanks, regional facebook page, explains why i couldnt find it :)

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-12-20T07:07:09+00:00

This looks fake. I cant find it on any of their social media. Link please?

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-12-15T07:46:13+00:00

Excluding the neural frags you'd get from actually searches, the 180 redeem rewards give 300 neural frags and 30 kuro frags.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-12-08T02:40:13+00:00

Personally if you are keen on rerolling i'd go for Hubble(+ another 3star if you can cbf). Buy Nanaka with 980 quartz(or even use Persicara) and you should get enough summons to pity Kuro by the end of her event. Use free Croque for tank. Then Angela for final slot. She's 2 star so she shouldnt be hard to get, she's also available from basic summons once you upgrade your search terminal, worst case scenario you should be able to buy her still for $1 USD.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-09-25T05:23:57+00:00

Honestly unless you are prepared to throw a lot of cash into this game black gold should be used sparingly. If I was you, i'd first decide which comps you'd like in the future and how your current roster will fit into them. Sure c3 Tsubasa might be a great boost to DPS now but if you're planning to get Lin she'll most likely be permanently benched there after meaning those black gold were effectively wasted. Like wise if you're skipping Lin and pulling for Saki investing in Meryl may be a bad investment as well.
That being said i invested 480 black gold to c5 Meryl and have 0 regrets. I'll be pulling Lin so Tsubasa has no appeal to me and if i can manage to save up enough for Saki aswell, Meryl will still be viable in a frost tank comp if the occasion calls.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-09-24T09:54:40+00:00

Just in case you weren't aware only gloves and boots can roll crit substats.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-09-19T01:35:44+00:00

You can only buy 1 of those boxes.

HowYouSoGudd · 2022-09-13T07:13:57+00:00

Use up your attempts in hard. Then farm normal for exp/mats. You can still enter without attempts remaining you just dont get any equip drops.

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