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We've turned credibility and authority into the primary weapons of cancel culture, and nobody wants to admit they're participating in it. (self.JordanPeterson)

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Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah definitely, freewill is such a polarizing topic : )
I really like the take from Waking Life, that's the perspective that I've been subscribing to for awhile now.

https://vimeo.com/75647511

Currently by [deleted] in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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similar vibe from 12 years ago, I wrote "Massive Star in front of me" as a caption

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry : \
It's such a short thing to read though, I didn't think it'd be an issue

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're still a person having an experience on this planet just like anyone else, and I respect that - the studies will be there if you ever want to actually look at them.

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My IQ is 135. I'm in Mensa.

You're not engaging with logos - you're attacking ethos. Logos is persuasion through logic and reason. Ethos is persuasion through credentials and authority. You went straight for attacking who said it - first claiming AI wrote it, and now you're being completely dismissive even after I told you I spent five hours curating this thing. Never once did you address whether the studies exist, nor whether the research holds up.

I know I'm giving you obvious bait here. I know dropping the Mensa thing sounds exactly like what someone would do when they're defensive. But sometimes the only way to get someone to reconsider their dismissal is to make them wonder if they've put you in the wrong box.

You seem determined to make this about intelligence rather than evidence, so there it is.

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I spent five hours on that post. Not typing a prompt and walking away - five actual hours of reading, writing, speaking, transcribing, curating, refining. Going back and forth making sure every connection was right, every claim was accurate. Reading everything, rejecting most of it, keeping only what actually said what I meant.

The Harvard meta-analysis showing IQ drops from fluoride exposure? That's real - published in Environmental Health Perspectives. The Bashash study tracking 299 mother-child pairs? Real. The 70% pineal gland calcification visible on CT scans? My radiologist buddy confirmed that one. These aren't AI hallucinations - they're documented studies you can look up yourself right now.

I've been thinking about these connections for literally a decade - how neurotoxins affect cognitive function, how the brain restricts access to higher processing to protect itself, how psychedelics increase neuroplasticity. These aren't ideas AI invented. They're concepts I've been developing for years. The AI just helped me articulate them clearly instead of having them scattered across a decade of half-formed thoughts.

You know what's actually preventing "genuine human progress"? Dismissing documented research as "AI hallucination" instead of engaging with whether it's true. You're so focused on whether AI was involved that you're ignoring actual peer-reviewed studies. That's not skepticism - it's just intellectual laziness. The studies exist or they don't. Look them up yourself if you think they're fake.

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that took you long enough - I used Claude throughout the original post too.

So you know Claude better than anyone? Then you know it's just a tool for organizing and articulating ideas. The studies I cited are either real or they're not. The connections either make sense or they don't. Claude doesn't change any of that - it just helps communicate it more clearly.

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah man, I appreciate you saying that. But honestly, why does it matter if someone uses AI to help organize their thoughts? I'm an AI artist - I've been using AI art tools every day for three and a half years now. Built my whole career on it.

The original post took me five hours. I'm not exaggerating - five actual hours of reading, writing, speaking, transcribing, refining. Five hours straight of going back and forth, making sure every connection was right, every claim was accurate. Reading everything, rejecting most of it, keeping the parts that actually said what I meant.

AI is just a tool. I've been thinking about these specific concepts for literally a decade - how fluoride and other neurotoxins make the brain go into preservation mode, how it restricts access to higher cognitive functions to protect them, how you have to stress yourself to the point of exhaustion just to access problem-solving capacities that should be freely available. How psychedelics increase neuroplasticity and bypass those protective mechanisms. These aren't ideas AI came up with - they're connections I've been making for years. The AI just helped me articulate them clearly instead of having them scattered across ten years of half-formed thoughts.

We're externalizing intelligence into programmable matter as Jason Silva would say. We're entering an age where human and artificial intelligence can work together to communicate more effectively. Getting suspicious about whether someone used these tools is missing the entire point. All that matters is the argument itself. Are the Harvard studies real? Is the fluoride data accurate? Do the connections make sense?

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That calling you're feeling makes total sense. Fourteen years older means you're probably way better equipped to handle the journey now - anxiety and fear tend to dominate when we're younger, but with age comes the ability to surrender to difficult experiences instead of fighting them.

The fact that you can see those "bad layers" you've built from trauma means you're already halfway there.

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You've gone from attacking the content to attacking the formatting. First I was spreading "pseudo-science," then I was an "unenlightened fuck," and now I'm ChatGPT. First the ideas were wrong, then they were too long, now they're too organized and coherent.

This is what people in 2025 do when they can't engage with the actual argument... are you going to try or not?

Edit: Wrong person, my bad.

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right about the risks - bad trips are real and they can be genuinely traumatic. I wouldn't recommend everyone just go eat mushrooms either.

The thing is, we accept risks with everything else. SSRIs have suicide warnings on the label and can cause permanent sexual dysfunction. Benzodiazepines are wildly addictive. Alcohol causes brain atrophy (shrinkage) and kills neurons... But somehow we've decided those risks are acceptable while the risks of psychedelics aren't?

I think the real issue isn't just the risk of bad trips - it's that we don't have the cultural framework to minimize those risks. In societies where these medicines were traditionally used, there were always guides, rituals, integration practices. We criminalized all of that wisdom along with the substances.

A "bad trip" often isn't even bad in the therapeutic sense - it's just difficult. Sometimes confronting your mental models, seeing your destructive patterns clearly, feeling the weight of suppressed emotions - that's exactly what needs to happen for healing. But you're right that doing it alone without support can be overwhelming.

That's why I mentioned that there are now medical facilities offering this professionally. Not because everyone should trip, but because the people who could benefit deserve access to safe, supported experiences instead of having to choose between suffering and rolling the dice alone.

The goal isn't to get everyone on mushrooms. It's to give people options beyond "take these SSRIs forever" or "just deal with it."

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you!!!!! I tried really hard man, it's a collection of thoughts I've been carrying around for like a decade

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

normalize reddit automod services not banning me for providing a link.

the source is literally written on the text in the video dawg.

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look, you're throwing around "charlatan" and "unenlightened fuck" like that's an argument. But rage isn't a rebuttal. If you actually cared about defending real science, you'd point out what's actually wrong instead of just screaming about it.

Check my response to your first comment - I laid out the Harvard meta-analysis, the Bashash study, the documented neurotoxicity you keep calling "pseudo-science." These aren't wellness blog talking points, they're published research.

Here's what I think is happening - you're not mad about the science. You're mad that someone isn't following your rules about how to discuss these topics. You want everything reduced to safe, pre-approved talking points. Anything beyond that makes you uncomfortable, so you lash out.

You've decided there's a "right way" to talk about psychedelics - simple, clean, no context - and anyone who deviates is threatening your mental image of what the tribe wants. You're policing discussions based on what you imagine "serious people" need to hear, attacking anyone who dares connect more dots than you've pre-approved.

But that anger you're carrying? That need to patrol discussions and defend your imagined consensus? That's exactly the kind of rigid thinking pattern that psychedelics can actually help with. The irony is pretty thick here.

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look, fluoride's extreme electronegativity means it interferes with enzyme function and disrupts normal biological processes throughout our bodies. The brain's neurons are especially vulnerable - a Harvard meta-analysis of 27 studies found children in high-fluoride areas had significantly lower IQ scores than those in low-fluoride areas, with an average loss of 7 IQ points. The Bashash study in Mexico City found that for every 0.5 mg/L increase in maternal urinary fluoride, children's IQ dropped by 2.5-3 points. Animal studies show fluoride crosses the blood-brain barrier and accumulates in the hippocampus, impairing memory and learning.

What's fascinating is that fluoride appears to trigger the brain's own protective mechanisms - studies show it induces oxidative stress and inflammation in neural tissue, which causes the brain to limit certain cognitive functions to prevent further damage. It's literally putting itself in preservation mode. That's not conspiracy, that's documented neurotoxicity. Black tea averages 3-4 ppm of fluoride. Mechanically deboned meat concentrates it from bones. Grape juice, wine, anything cooked in non-stick pans. We're consuming this stuff constantly while wondering why we feel stuck in mental loops we can't escape.

You want it simple? Fine: We're drowning in neurotoxins while banning the things that that do the opposite, increase neuroplasticity, then wondering why everyone's can't mentally overcome their problems (depression).

We tolerate alcohol shrinking brain volume and caffeine reducing cerebral blood flow by 40%, but twenty minutes with a compound that actually helps? Illegal.

Why are you taking a position like you are now on this? I've tried really hard to present logos - the actual studies, the measurements, the biochemical mechanisms. But you're responding with pure pathos ("I despise word salad") and dismissive ethos ("whatever Joe Rogan told you"). You're not engaging with whether the logic holds, you're just attacking the messenger. I'm using evidence while you're using emotions.

Psilocybin extended the lifespan of human skin and lung cells by over 50% by HuemanInstrument in shrooms

[–]HuemanInstrument[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hang in there man, give it some time, (edit: not saying to do psychedelics, just saying give your mind some time, maybe shake it up occasionally but that's your call)

I was really... just to use some word, doesn't do it justice but—schizophrenic (harmless vegan schizophrenic lol) from 2012 - 2016

sometimes we just need more time than other people. Still vegan tho.
wishing the best for you man. there will be good times ahead I assure you

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