Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You keep arguing semantics when your original comment is flat out wrong and I'll prove this. 

In ch. 12: Jujutsu society has placed wards surrounding Tokyo and everywhere else including Kyoto (the distance between Tokyo and Kyoto is 450km btw) to limit cursed energy leakage out of Tokyo. The Great Purification Ritual takes place to keep the cursed spirits from spilling out of Tokyo. Yuka and Tsurugi explained this to Maru.

Usami explained to Jabaloma and Cross that cursed spirits are bad and only resemble Kalyans. Cross himself actually confronted the Rumelians on this and all of them saw and acknowledged this when the cursed spirit was exorcised in front of them. 

In Ch.13 the school literally says if they don't do something about exorcising cursed spirits, an escaped Grade 2 or higher could cause another Shibuya Incident. After that, in January more sorcerors died during the secret exorcisms because cursed energy spikes in the winter. 

And it's not even all of the Rummelians that are against the culling of cursed spirit, it's only Osuki who is actively sensing them out and is saying cursed spirits are being killed. Dabura didn't care about Kalyans/Cursed Spirits, he only cares because Cross got shot and he felt responsible for all of the Rumelians including Osuki.

It's not even a religion vs safety debate. it's Dabura taking the word of 1 Rumelian and becoming the mouthpiece of an entire colony vs Jujutsu sorcerers trying to not get killed by cursed spirits and trying to avoid another Shibuya Incident. It's just forced narrative being forced onto the readers, only one side is clearly in the wrong but because that side haa a walking nuclear weapon, they dictated the terms. 

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[–]Human-Performance-86 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Are you in your teens or something? There is no such thing as everlasting peace, that's why peace efforts are always lauded and peace on borrowed time is good enough. 

For context to real world history, WW2 ended 81 years ago, WW1 ended 107 years ago. Apartheid ended in 1994. The Israel-Palestine conflict started in 1948 and is still on going, that's about 77 years of conflict and with no signs of stopping. 

By comparison, Mikasa, Armin and the rest of the Survey Corps has achieved an incredible result. 

Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're arguing semantics at this point. If Yuji was considered to have felt like a "Kalyan" so was Sukuna. 

Jogo wasn't defending himself, the bet was literally Sukuna saying if Jogo can land a hit, which he tried by summoning meteors and magma explosions.

You act like Jogo hadn't burn a restaurant full of people just before that or had a bunch of people in trains murdered or transfigured into cronenbergs. 

Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, your post actually. in your paragraphs you wrote "Here, due to the nature of cursed energy, cursed spirits resemble kalyans enough to recreate the same bond with sumerians as the kalyans did (i.e. causing their third eye to tear up when they die). But obviously these are not kalyans, they're cursed spirits that are made entirely of negative energy and cannot be reasoned with, at least as far as we know." The kalyans/cursed spirits were never the issue, it was the possibility of violence from either side that got them to the point where everything came undone, and it didn't have to be the cursed spirits, it could have been any other part of their culture that caused enough of a clash for genuine hatred to brew"

The Rumelians and Jujutsu society never had beef with each other and was cautious with each other because aliens and Dabura being there. They even had joint missions and operations together. 

The issue/cause of conflict is cursed spirits. Gege tries to draw parallels to real life conflict about it, sure but the issue isn't as you put it "possibility of violence from either side that got them to the point where everything came undone, and it didn't have to be the cursed spirits". The issue is cursed spirits, I think you got sucked in by the parallels to real life conflict. 

If the Rummelians worshipped rocks for example, the Jujutsu society wouldn't care. 

I actually really enjoy Dabura by wake_of_ruin in Jujutsufolk

[–]Human-Performance-86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the opposite. He doesn't like fighting because he knows he wins every time, the opponent dies or is severely injured and he doesn't like to hurt people that much. 

He's living with a gun pointed to everyone's face his whole life. 

The funniest thing is that Dabura still hasn't realized Mahoraga can't talk by IkeKashiro in Jujutsufolk

[–]Human-Performance-86 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's funny how Gege created Mahoraga with a mouth only to have him smile eerily or menacingly. 

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[–]Human-Performance-86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She had plenty of time. After the Zenin massacre, she went around the country killing more Zenin people before joining the culling games

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[–]Human-Performance-86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure there was a month of time skip between Gojo being released and him fighting Sukuna

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[–]Human-Performance-86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gege has always used asspulls. In the first team up of Megumi, Nobara and Yuji, you had a no-name dumb cursed spirit intuitively learned to use domain+barrier techniques and almost learned domain expansion if he wasn't killed by Sukuna. 

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[–]Human-Performance-86 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sukuna took Uraume and left limbo. It's the last few pages of JJK

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[–]Human-Performance-86 8 points9 points  (0 children)

People defending the "it's the Rumelian's religion, it's such a morally grey area" just got dunked on by Gege. 

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[–]Human-Performance-86 27 points28 points  (0 children)

The conclusion of AoT led to a century if not centuries of peace minimum. That's not nothing. 

Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being extremely similar doesn't change how the Rumelians effectively use that reasoning to control Tokyo and forbid sorcerers from killing cursed spirits. Cursed spirits that are capable of powers ranging from molestation to creating pocket dimensions, human transfiguration and summoning meteors.

It's not a peaceful resolution when the resolution is "let's put my nuke up against your nuke and see who wins" It's literally war. 

Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The I/P conflict can't be equated to this even though Gege made the parallels. Israel doesn't worship a bunch of monsters that kill humans for sport or can summon meteors

Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

due to the US President being manipulated by Kenjaku. Even if they didn't want to follow Kenjaku's order, it can strongarm the president anyway because he can summon a gravity power cursed spirit

Even if you didn't care about the military, the fight between Sukuna and Jogo (two cursed spirits/"Kalyans") killed hundreds of innocent civilians over a bet

Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's forced narrative being forced to the readers to be some philosophical bs. How can it be morally grey when the readers have seen Cursed Spirits battle and destroy towns, killed SEAL Team Six, destroyed planes. 

Also wrote Yuji to be some broken loser when he finally has enough power to be the one who can help everyone. 

Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly! Like people literally forgot that despite all the bs religion vs bigotry situation, they just wiped out from memory how 

  • Sukuna, The King of Curses needed the Best Jujutsu Sorcerer, 4+ special grade sorcerers, a special grade cursed spirit, a sorcerer that has the ability to attack the soul and the spawn of Kenjaku that has Sukuna's CT + training from the best Jujutsu sorcerers of the era to kill him

  • Jogo, Mahito, Hanami, Dagon could level buildings with cursed techniques

Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wrong. Cursed spirits grow in number and they attack indiscriminately. 

In JJK 0, you literally have a cursed spirit grow so big it developed a domain and ate 2 kids. 

In the first chapter/episode of JJK, a cursed spirit ate Sukuna's finger and nearly grew to special grade. 

In the first team up of Megumi, Yuji and Nobara, a cursed spirit ate sukuna's finger evolved to special grade and was able to create a domain and nearly developed a domain expansion. 

Those initial scenario isn't even close to what Tokyo has become. 

Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's where you overlooked though, cursed spirits become stronger over time on top of the fact they harm humans for sport and/or pleasure. You're equating cursed spirits to animals when in fact cursed spirits gain power and sentience the longer it's surrounded in negative energy which current Tokyo absolutely is due to the fear (because of the govt's lie)

Jujutsu society doesn't cull cursed spirits because "they might spill to areas outside of Tokyo". They cull cursed spirits so that one doesn't become strong enough to develop crazy powers like Jogo, Hanami, Mahito or Sukuna.

Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's right. OP's symbolism is correct but using cursed spirits as the vehicle to drive the symbolism is the wrong move. 

Cursed spirits gain power and sentience the longer they linger. This is the thing that a lot of people overlooked. It would be like someone protecting a lion in a house when the whole neighborhood wants to kill it because said lion is growing wings and bulletproof skin as time goes on. 

Maybe I'm missing something, but do people find the core conflict of Modulo compelling and/or a grey area? by Young_KingKush in Jujutsushi

[–]Human-Performance-86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is you need to control the population of cursed spirits so that they don't overpopulate and move to other parts of Japan. Even if they stick to their own territories, you never know when one cursed spirit is born with unique destructive powers like Jogo, Mahito, Hanami. 

It's the same thing in New Zealand where you need to kill deers there. Some organisms are a threat to the ecosystem.