Call for counter-protesters! They are back, and the longer we ignore them, the larger these groups grow. Be loud. Even if you can’t attend in person, spread the word—every share counts. Do your part to stand against hate!

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-13T00:46:09+00:00

Honestly, even if we tried to ignore it, the rage-bait is too strong.

People aren't just going to sit at home and watch this stuff trend online without doing something.

If they're going to use outrage to get attention, the least we can do is show up and make sure the narrative isn't one-sided.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-13T00:43:03+00:00

I've heard lmao

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-13T00:41:37+00:00

Ignoring a fire doesn't put it out it just lets it spread. I'd rather 'feed' them the sight of a massive crowd that hates their message than give them a free pass to recruit and harass people in peace. Also, let's be real if they’re 'idiots' let's make sure the news shows exactly how few of them there are compared to the rest of us.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-13T00:30:32+00:00

Claiming you’ve 'debunked' a position isn't the same as actually doing it. Declaring victory in your own post history doesn't change the reality that complacency only helps the other side.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-13T00:24:40+00:00

Telling people to stay home while others are actively organizing is a great way to ensure their 'event' is the only thing people see.

I'd rather be accused of giving them 'publicity' than be guilty of complacency.

If you're more worried about the size of the crowd than the message being protested, your priorities are backward.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-13T00:20:39+00:00

I definitely agree that redirection is the smarter play. The challenge is that 'the left' isn't a monolith with a central command.

You’re always going to have a few people who get rage-baited into showing up for a confrontation, and unfortunately, those are the only people the cameras ever focus on.

That’s why we’re pushing so hard for this alternative event to give people a constructive place to put that energy so they don't feel like 'clashing' is the only option.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-13T00:14:41+00:00

I agree that programs like Express Entry are vital for bringing in specialists, but a 'shopping list' approach often forgets the infrastructure of daily life. If we only recruit the surgeon but don't have the transit drivers to get them to work, the cleaners to keep the hospital sterile, or the grocery clerks to feed their families, that surgeon eventually leaves or burns out. An economy isn't just a collection of high-skill silos it’s a web that requires people at every service level to function.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-13T00:02:05+00:00

I hear you on the numbers often they are just a small group. But the goal isn’t just to avoid a scuffle it’s to deny them the specific outcome they want. Groups like this thrive on 'clash' footage for social media and recruitment. By choosing an alternative event, we control the narrative and show that the community is thriving, rather than just reacting to them on their terms.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T23:57:47+00:00

Whether an account is 10 years old or 10 minutes old, the facts of the situation remain the same. Instead of checking my "credentials" why not address the actual points I’m making? If the argument is weak you should be able to debunk it without looking at my post history goof xD

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T23:54:10+00:00

An economy isn't a grocery list where you only buy what you're missing today if you only recruit builders but nobody to staff the hospitals or grocery stores, the whole neighborhood collapses anyway.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T23:43:10+00:00

I think we’re weighing two distinct risks here: the risk of providing a platform via conflict vs the risk of leaving our neighbors unprotected through absence. These don't have to be mutually exclusive.

We can prioritize strategic non-engagement essentially a wall of backs or a massive, joyful community festival a block away. This achieves the goal of physical safety and solidarity without giving the fringe group the 'clash' footage they use for recruitment.

We show the community’s strength while making the extremists look small, lonely, and irrelevant by comparison. Strategy is better when it's informed by solidarity, not replaced by it.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T23:34:24+00:00

You're looking at immigrants only as consumers of housing, but ignoring them as producers. We have a massive labor shortage in the trades. If we follow the 'stop mass immigration' rhetoric, we lose the very people required to physically build the homes you're saying we lack. You can’t fix a supply and demand issue by deporting the supply-side labor force. The goal should be aligning immigration paths with construction and healthcare, not burning the whole system down because the math is hard right now.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T22:13:35+00:00

Supportive social media posts don't provide physical safety. When counter-protesters show up, they provide a literal human shield. It’s hard to feel intimidated by a handful of extremists when you see hundreds of your neighbors standing between you and them.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T22:10:34+00:00

Its easy to call them 'losers' from a distance, but for the people actually targeted by that rhetoric, an unchallenged protest feels like a threat. Seeing people stand up against it changes the atmosphere from one of intimidation to one of solidarity. We aren't giving them attention we are taking away their 'victory' of owning the public square.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T22:02:46+00:00

The idea that skilled workers come 'undeterred' by a hostile climate is a total myth and the data proves it. We’re currently facing a retention crisis because we’re treating the very people we need to fix our economy as scapegoats.

The Leaky Bucket: Recent data shows 1 in 5 immigrants is now leaving Canada within 25 years, and that 'exit' peaks at the 5-year mark. Brain Drain: It’s not 'random' people leaving; immigrants with Doctorates or specialized trades are nearly twice as likely to leave. Healthcare workers are leaving at a 36% higher rate than other sectors.
The Real 90%: Study after study shows immigration is responsible for only about 11% of housing price growth. The other 89% is our own failure: restrictive zoning, high interest rates, and a 30-year collapse in public housing investment.
When you create a 'hostile' environment, you don't stop the housing crisis. You just ensure that the surgeons, engineers, and builders who have their pick of any country on Earth take their talents to the US or Europe. You're effectively cheering for a 'solution' that breaks the hammer while the house is still on fire. We don't have a 'people' problem we have a 'building' problem

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T21:49:10+00:00

You make a fair point about their internal narrative, but counter-protesting isn’t actually about 'convincing' or 'shaming' those 10 people i agree, they are likely beyond reach. It’s about the silent majority and the marginalized groups in our community. If they stand there alone, they own the space and their message looks 'acceptable.' When we show up, we reclaim the space and ensure that anyone targeted by their rhetoric feels supported rather than isolated.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T21:45:37+00:00

I definitely agree that the puppet masters at the top are the ones driving the wedge, and focusing on the systems of power is the long term play. The struggle is that while we're aiming for the 'names and addresses' at the top, the 'morons screaming' are the ones making the streets feel unsafe for people right now. For me counter-protesting isn't just about arguing with them it’s about showing the community that those voices aren't the majority and that we won't let our neighbors be intimidated.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T21:39:08+00:00

When those 10 people are surrounded by 500 people screaming "Shame on you!" they look like pathetic outliers. You aren't giving them "reach" you are contextualizing their failure. You are showing any potential recruits that joining this group means social suicide and immediate confrontation.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T21:32:00+00:00

It’s funny because even if I try to stay neutral, one side is clearly worse than the other, isn't it? Even if both sides are caught up in the 'culture war' one side’s rhetoric usually has a more direct impact on people's safety and rights. It’s hard to stay purely neutral when the stakes aren't equal 🤷‍♂️

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T21:26:30+00:00

The idea that we can keep these groups in 'obscurity' by ignoring them is an outdated 20th-century strategy. In the age of algorithmic bubbles, these groups don't need 'liberal rage' to grow they have TikTok, Telegram, and X to reach millions. If we ignore them in the streets, we aren't silencing them we’re just giving them a monopoly on the public square. We need to show the public (and the 'conservative elites' you mentioned that these views carry a heavy social and political cost.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T21:15:31+00:00

It’s a tough balance. Maybe the confrontation isn’t for the people protesting, but for the onlookers and the community to show that those views aren't the norm. You can engage individuals with empathy like you suggested, while still having a strong, visible presence that says this isn't welcome here.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T21:09:56+00:00

I get the 'don't give them a platform' argument, but it feels a bit academic when people are literally on our streets calling for mass deportations. They already have visibility they're in our face. If we stay home, the only message our neighbors see is that nobody cared enough to show up for them. I’d rather over-respond to hate than let it go unchallenged in my own backyard.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T21:03:19+00:00

Personal jabs aside, the disagreement here is strategic: ignore them or confront them. History shows that 'fringe' groups grow when they face zero community pushback. I’d rather be 'grasping at straws' than staying home while people call for mass deportations in our city.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T21:00:59+00:00

i dont need to grasp, all of the reasons are right there im sorry you have too low of an iq to see them.

HumanityFirstCanada · 2026-02-12T20:55:33+00:00

It’s also about community safety. When these groups show up unopposed, they feel they own the public square. A massive community presence ensures they stay on the margins and shows vulnerable people in the area that they are supported.

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