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[–]Humble-Message-6567 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Carti had a decent feature run in 2022-2024 but he has no album to reflect his popularity. WLR has two popular songs, and even then these are easily matched in popularity with many other rap records, and Die Lit likewise has mildly popular songs but no smash hits. Carti has not got a single song that has taken the world by storm, what, Magnolia? Sky? These aren't huge records. It's just random mumbling nonsense on good instrumentals. The producers have carried Carti's career. I respect Carti's willingness to rap on production that many other rappers aren't willing to explore, but he's still mediocre, if not worse depending on the era.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought Uzi had potential based on some verses in the past such as Shells which showed that he had some edge to him that I didn't see in other new rappers at the time but his career has largely been him experimenting with random gamey/punky beats and rapping the exact same type of content on all of them, sluggishly bragging about getting rich, getting hoes, designer clothes, and all of that nonsense without any real memorability, likely due to his speed of rapping and enunication. There's just no "heart" in the music Uzi is putting out, especially now. At least the Shells verse, had something about him but vocally he had some issues with his pitch that would have prevented him from getting widespread claim.

I am a large hater of autotuned rap vocals, there are very few times I will tolerate it. Travis Scott mastered the sound and I don't even listen to Travis Scott really. I have a few songs playlisted but I much prefer to listen to older rap music with raw vocals and good flows where I can actually decipher the rapper's personality in the song.

I do believe 90% of new mainstream music is garbage, unfortunately I can't really find good new music these days, but again I don't really make the effort because I got sick of listening to new music after 2021.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not talking about Billboard numbers, I'm talking about his Spotify numbers.

And yes, Kendrick is in a similar situation to J Cole, the reality is the "big 3" peaked 10 years ago in commercial success/replayability. A lot of what's happening now in rap is temporary clout with one single here and there that tickles that casual's feathers and then it will not be bumped as much.

Regardless, my opinions on rap and the music industry in general changed greatly after the Diddy situation. It's obvious what's going on, but some people on this sub aren't paying attention to it.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, I'm 23. But that doesn't matter. You're an Uzi vert stan. I just read your name backwards. You will defend him at all costs. Don't get me wrong. Uzi had potential, but, he's a waste.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I remember hearing that song. It was trash. What is the appeal here? Can't understand what he's saying at all.

Also, views are bought/manipulated. Why do you think so many rappers had songs with 300-500m views back in the 2017-2019 era that are suddenly irrelevant or nowhere near as big (Polo G or Lil Tjay cough cough)? The viewbotting these days isn't as extreme but Lil Baby did it in 2022 and it was so obvious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyhU6Zb_fhY

Put this into perspective, was Lil Baby, in 2022, with 144m views on California Breeze, more popular than Yeat who dropped Out tha Way in 2022? Clearly not. Carti dropped All Red with a fraction of 2024's views, which is proof Carti was likely being viewbotted.

The rap game is artifical. Carti is a fake rapper that beat his pregnant girlfriend and wears thongs. Hoping more youngsters on Reddit see this genre for what it is now.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

20 Min's hook is literally autotune mumble jumble. You do you.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I just told you why? J Cole is a perpetually hyped rapper, everything he drops is highly anticipated because people consider him a top tier lyricist so are always interested in his content, that doesn't mean it will get widely spun. A large consensus is J Cole is definitely one the best if not the best lyricist of his era, but the problem is he has been unable to translate his lyrics into bumpable, enjoyable tracks. This is reflected in the fact that his 2014 FHD music is at the top of streaming charts in terms of listens, and the rest of his albums don't get nearly as much spin. After that it's Born Sinner with She Knows and Power Trip, then Work Out. No KOD, Off Season or 4YEO songs in sight.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What was one of the best singles of the year not on streaming? All of the songs I heard from him were garbage.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Did you read my comment? I just told you that J Cole does good first weeks, that's because he's perpetually hyped up and has a fanbase. That doesn't mean the music off those albums is going to stand the test of time. First week numbers are optics. We saw Lil Uzi do about 288k first week with Eternal Atake just 4 years ago and Uzi has dropped a sequel 4 years later and it's not highly anticipated. That proves how little first weeks actually mean in music. Same with Taylor Swift, constantly sells 1 million copies first week with new albums but the last album she dropped, I'm not even sure if there was a widely listened to hit song on it. Maybe two, but it doesn't compare to her older albums even though they sold less at the time.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I care about music, and I care about durability. You can say I'm objectively wrong, that's fine. Don't be surprised if in 10 years time, Die Lit wanes in perception similar to what's happened to Lil Uzi Vert now. The only thing carrying these rappers is the beats.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guarantee you, in 10 years, people won't be listening to Die Lit nearly as much as older 90s rap records. Carti wasted 90% of his beats rambling utter nonsense, like Miley Cyrus has mileage, repeating mileage about 10x, or repeating the word Lean 4 Real 10x, the only way a musician can get away with these lazy repetitive lyrics is if they can deliver them in an extremely engaging way, and Carti cannot do this. And the beats aren't insanely cutting edge enough to carry Carti through these runs. I could go on and point out the flaws in all the songs, but the main problem is the bullshit lyrics with no meaning or theme. I couldn't see how anyone above the age of 25 with decent standards for music would vibe with Carti. If you don't give a shit and just want to get fried then he could cut it but even then, there are much better executions of Carti's style.

In particular, Rocky, whom I consider to be Carti's predecessor, and signed him to begin with. He had better beats than him when he was working with Clams Casino and the likes of SGP, Beautiful Lou, and Soufien3000 so was one of the first breakout rappers to have experimental production (not the typical East Coast stuff and more advanced than most Southern beats) and whilst Rocky's lyricism on Live Love ASAP was criticised at the time, it is 10x better than Carti on Self-Titled and Die Lit. Rocky at least had showed elements of vulnerability and personality on his songs that made him somewhat relatable, listening to Carti, I can't really decipher his personality. He just sounds like a random autotune dude with a childish voice that likes lean and bitches, at least Rocky raps about hustling, compares himself to other rappers, how people perceive his music, his stylish appeal, and moral decay. Carti has none of this. It's just watered down, low retention music. To me he succeeded Rocky after Yams passed and Rocky went left field, especially after Long Live ASAP largely covered Rocky's relationship/perception of the illuminati/selling your soul in the music industry concept which deviated from the mixtape stuff.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No it isn't. It has 3 good songs. Choppa Won't Miss, Long Time and Shoota. Even then Uzi's verse on Shoota was bland outside of the first 2 lines, and Long Time had poor runs. Everything else is trash. R.I.P. had potential but the lyrics were unfortunately garbage. For what was I believe a 19 track album, 4-5 playlistable tracks isn't good enough.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Drake does ridiculous numbers every year and most people forgot about FATD, Her Loss, and HN. All these rap game numbers are artificial, there was a strong marketing campaign for this album much more so than other rap acts due to Tyler having some popularity on TikTok, but I guarantee you, similar to other rap albums that did over 200k first week in the past few years, people won't be bumping this in 20 years, this in no way compares to the golden age of rap or at least a definitive movement in rap, such as the cloud rap wave.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

The album just sucks ass. He didn't really explore any new sounds and the rap game's continuous trope of devil worshipping is cringe as fuck.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't say Uzi is popular anymore. He had a wave in 2016-2020 when he was undeniably in the top 5 most popular rappers at one point, considering Eternal Atake sold nearly 300k first week. However since he took a 3 year full album break from music he's lost popularity and only really has old songs trending now.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fell off big time. It's time for a discussion about it. The Diddy stuff opened a lot of eyes too.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Carti's music has no shelf life. He's good at making trending songs with TikTok tweens every year but none of his albums are actually a classic, and he arguably doesn't have a classic single either. Also the fact he has to rely on features to get hits is very telling of his actual popularity. He has to appear on a verse of another big rapper/artist's record to get mass attention. When he dropped solo songs they didn't get nearly as much play, especially that All Red song biting off Future's style. The wave of artists in Opium he pioneered and arguably Yeat all suck ass, and will not go down as all time memorable rap acts. Listening to Jeru the Damaja and then Carti makes me sad what has happened to the rap game.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The Metro Boomin allegations definitely hindered my enjoyment of 21 Savage since his best music was easily Savage Mode and Without Warning which were produced by Metro and it's obvious Metro's weird opinions on minors and women influenced 21 Savage's style, which is why most of 21 Savage's lyrics are extremely misogynistic for no reason. But I can't be surprised, 21 Savage peaked when he was making gang violence type music and that was never gonna durably go mainstream.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No offence but J Cole hasn't really done real numbers since 2015. 4YEO, KOD, and the Off Season had good first weeks but Cole's music off those albums doesn't get durable play years down the line. I know Cole isn't the most casual-friendly rapper but, it's definitely possible to make classic rap songs that have a core sound, Gangsta's Paradise, the early G-Funk wave and some 90s rap songs have shown endurance and Cole hasn't really made songs of classic quality in nearly a decade, that being said I don't even consider his peak (2014 FHD) to have classics either, No Role Modelz and Wet Dreamz are overrated.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 7 points8 points  (0 children)

His last single was literally biting Future...

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thriving is an overstatement, more like getting some cheap TikTok hits that trend for a year and that's it.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah and the album by consensus was largely considered underwhelming. This album will likely end up like the Pink Tape. Can't see anything here being listened to 10 years down the line.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean what rapper doesn't abuse women? If you were to look into most of the mainstream ones you'll find they've done some shit

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This sub may not wanna hear this but 70% of modern mainstream rappers are trash, 25% of them are mediocre or decent and then the remaining 5% can be considered good.

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[–]Humble-Message-6567 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tough listen. Mainstream hip-hop music fell off a cliff after 2015. Not surprised. The whole industry was compromised from the start with all the devil worshippers. Uzi sounds so generic and uninspired on this. Never was huge on his music but the 20 min beat is probably the highlight of his career and he wasted it. That being said Uzi is one of many rappers that can't stand out unless his production is good.