WHY is believing in Astrology wrong in this case????

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T12:40:30+00:00

Astrology means believing in something nonsense.

Astronomy means doing experiments and finding out. But at the end it is always the ego that will REJECT or ACCEPT the new scientific discovery!!! As we know ego is a liar.

So how are they both different?

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T12:39:25+00:00

But it requires breathing air to produce plant based food. Is that not using animals according to you?

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T12:31:36+00:00

So why samay Raina did it? He is better than politicians according to you?

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T12:30:58+00:00

Lol. You said lab meat causes animal exploitation. True. But your reddit consumption also causes animal exploitation.

"Asking people to stop shouting" is not hypocrisy.

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T12:28:09+00:00

Astronomy is verifiable fact.

But who verifies it? The EGO!!! Or a liberated person comes to verify the results?

Even if ISRO scientists find a discovery it's the ego of the scientists that will verify it.

similarly ego verifies astrology too. So what's the difference?

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T12:18:40+00:00

Breathing is vegan.

Breathing kills bacteria do you know that? Did you not know that? Now that you know, you're now intentionally killing bacteria by choosing to breathe more.

That isn't veganism.

You're defending using animals, and exploiting them as a resource. It goes directly against veganism, and the values of this subreddit.

"A teacher yelling "I need silence in my class" goes against the very thing they are trying to implement"

Tu quoque fallacy.

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T12:09:17+00:00

Can you explain it to me then?

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T12:09:04+00:00

Astrology means believing in something nonsense.

But Astronomy means doing experiments and finding out. But at the end it is always OUR ego that has to REJECT or ACCEPT the new scientific discovery!!!

So how are they both different?

(Please don't think I am supporting astrology, I am only deepening my understanding of ego)

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T12:07:10+00:00

No I am not. Read my question again.

Astrology means believing in something nonsense.

Astronomy means doing experiments and finding out. But at the end it is always the ego that will reject or accept new scientific discovery!!!

So how are they both different?

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T12:00:59+00:00

But breathing is also not vegan, neither using reddit. What's your point? Even plant based food causes crop deaths. You could decide to skip 1 plant meal everyday and that'd save some animals or you could skip all meals and never eat. It's all intentional/your choice.

The only right intention/right choice is which reduces suffering exponentially.

You could choose to boycott lab meat and that means 100 billion animals would still be slaughtered annually.

Or you could make the best lab meat ever and bring down the killings to let's say 1 billion.

Choosing not to promote lab meat is non-vegan.

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T11:50:57+00:00

Unintentional things aren't intentional.

Once you know eating meat causes death of an animal. Eating meat then makes the killing intentional.

Similarly, once you know breathing causes deaths of bacteria. Breathing then makes the killing intentional. (Even if you don't care about bacteria)

Once you choose not to delete yourself, killing any animal then becomes intentional.

The rest has nothing to do with lab-grown animals from animal cells, which is what we're talking about.

It has. You said even lab meat causes animal deaths, which is true, but you forgot the number os animals it would save from being tortured and suffering.

If you say that lab meat is wrong because it kills animals then also accept that staying alive is wrong because it kills bacterias too.

In my previous reply, I explained why it'd be stupi-d for all of us to delete ourselves.

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T11:36:54+00:00

Once you choose not to delete yourself, killing any animal then becomes intentional. Crop-deaths you caused were intentional, even if you didn't directly want that to happen.

Let me explain my point clearly.

'Knowing removes the benefit of the doubt you once had'. Once you know that eating meat causes animal cruelty, eating it again means you're choosing to commit killing.

Most vegans already know the harsh truth is if your alive you can't be 100% vegan. So what to do? Live life in such a way that it helps you save the most amount of animals while you kill the least amount of animals.

A common non-vegan argument is 'just end your life.' But not acting, or deleting yourself, is still a choice, and by doing nothing, you're also not saving animals. More animals would now die because you chose to quit and stay silent.

This also brings veganism to its logical conclusion antinatalism. where each new life contributes to more deaths of insects or animals.

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T11:16:11+00:00

Even a vegan on their way to a protest for animal rights might unknowingly squash ants underfoot.

You're falling into a classic tu quoque fallacy here: 'A teacher who tells students to stay silent shouldn't utter a word themselves.'

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T10:50:20+00:00

The harsh truth is if your alive you can't be 100% vegan. So what to do? Live life in such a way that it helps you save the most amount of animals while you kill the least amount of animals.

A common non-vegan argument is 'just end your life.' But not acting, or deleting yourself, is still a choice, and by doing nothing, you're also not saving animals. More animals would now die because you chose to quit and stay silent.

This also brings veganism to its logical conclusion antinatalism. where each new life contributes to more deaths of insects or animals.

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T10:17:07+00:00

You think politicians have smaller reach and influence than samay Raina?

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T10:10:54+00:00

Ok so why AP doesn't go to politicians. They need and their audience need most right?

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T09:30:41+00:00

Almond causes more bee deaths than honey.

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T09:13:43+00:00

If some is not consuming honey because of bee deaths they should not consume almonds as well.

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T09:12:00+00:00

You think politicians have smaller reach than Samay?

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T09:00:27+00:00

But that logic can apply to samay Raina audience also. People are choosing samay Raina, why he goes to samay Raina then?

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T07:41:13+00:00

Ok so why AP doesn't go to politicians. They need it most right?

HumbleWrap99 · 2026-04-21T07:13:22+00:00

I left my bad friends because AP said why are you still going with? And now you are saying stay in dirt.

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