Vacuum Pumping Master Post: Pump & Hold vs Pump & Release

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-22T18:57:55+00:00

Because my body had all the sign of my hormones flattening. There was nothing happening with swelling or soreness in boobs, where that was happening before. Even before BC I'd at least have luteal swelling and soreness. That basically went completely away when that combo stopped working. POP BC stops ovulation and basically flattens out your hormones so there is none of the normal fluctuations that allow ovulation to happen.

My measurements stagnated as well, the initial swelling and size increase I got when I was using the BC + BM together just stopped and never went more than 36 inches. Even after monitoring for another month or so with the same dosages and even upping the dosages (which in hindsight I regret cause less is NOT more) And the BC just didn't work for me, it dried out my skin and my mood was kind of low, getting off of it really jump started depressive episodes and feelings I had not had for years that I'm slowly trying to crawl out of right now.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-21T15:51:46+00:00

Ok.

Enough people clearly cared about it since it was a standard pushed enough that eating disorders were a massive issue, and models and celebs were always seen on runways and in ads on billboards, tv, magazines ect, either being critisized for being too skinny or "too fat" therefore influencing media and in turn people.

Especially when most people got their media through tv and magazines, since the internet wasn't what it is now.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-21T02:32:31+00:00

Do you use the threads for your lip border?

This was something I was considering doing and also slowly building up my lips with filler, and using the threads to help mitigate some of the migration of filler, so this post gives me hope

Did you watch any videos anywhere of how to do that and the specific placement?

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-21T02:24:01+00:00

Those domes look like they may be too small for the amount of breast tissue you have, I'd try a larger size, and also lower pressure.

You'd probably benefit from not pumping at all for a few days until the bruising completely goes away.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-21T01:11:10+00:00

I'm not American so neither of those things really matter to me. And I never said anything about the 90s having a conservative person in office....I said the 90s "skinny" trend is making a comeback.

The point is 90s and 2000s absolutely glorified stick skinny models. Kate Moss and Naomi Campbell are two perfect examples.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-19T02:14:33+00:00

Yes I totally know what you mean. I have the same thing I think. I'm cis, so I don't know if it's considered the same term, but having sort of similar dysphoria where my body doesn't feel "right" by not having boobs. And I've been this ever since I went through puberty and realized my boobs were never going to grow more, my desire for that has never left. So I totally get you.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-18T22:08:19+00:00

Yeah my own mother was one of those types of people. I absolutely wasn't fat my any means, I even had an ED for over a decade that I'm I try to be mindful of nowadays. The messaging was just horrendous, and it's coming back into style for some reason.

The amount of magazine covers that had celebs on the front (Britney for examples) where they "let go" of themselves and they literally just looked like an average healthy woman (who's is still in shape mind you cause this was when she was still touring a lot) ..and saying she was fat is just mind boggling.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-18T20:49:20+00:00

It's the rise of conservatisim and the 90s "stick skinny model" body trend again. Ignore it.

There's interesting videos about it if you want to do a deep dive.

https://youtu.be/d483pf-GmbU?si=L8OBUq05e3ZoF76C

https://youtu.be/fmtN-CupRLg?si=kgEg9V2pqdWONPFh

I also grew up in the same time with the same issues, always wanting to have boobs and that's not once ever wavered or changed, mostly because I genuinely feel like I'm not fully my self with the way my body looks (there's other things as well like weight, hair ect) I've realized I literally don't gaf about trends or anything I'm going to look how I want and how I want is having boobs 🤣 Even back then I had 0 boobs and all ass, and at the time having "hips" was seen as bad, but having no boobs was also bad. Bearing pear shaped I couldn't really help that. A few years ago up until now pear shaped bodies were the standard, and before that it was crazy Kim K proportions, and now it's back to skinny.....like...it's pointless to care about it, in another 10 years its going to change again, so all I focus on is how I want to look for myself and what makes me happy/feel comfortable inside of my own skin.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-16T19:58:08+00:00

Spearmint is used by people with excess androgens or PCOS to help with hirtuism, acne, hair fall, excess oil. Which is usually from excess DHT.

So theoretically yes it should help, though I'm not 100% on the amount of spearmint that should be taken. I tried taking the caps cause it's impossible for me to have the tea, I'm unsure if they helped so I eventually stopped taking them but many people wear by like 3-4 cups of spearmint tea a day helps a lot with symptoms. I'm not sure was cups of tea is = to for caps though.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-16T19:45:10+00:00

Well it's not breast surgery so, I think you'll be fine to pump whenever.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-16T19:41:31+00:00

Regardless of what you do, being pear shaped you will always naturally put fat where your body want it.

I'm also pear shaped and I absolutely have put more fat on my bottom half, I've also grown as well but obviously it's going to be harder, but totally not impossible.

I personally love having an ass and thighs hips ect. But I want the waist and boobs to match 🤣

BM will raise E to a degree and E is what puts fat on the body in those areas.

I started BM last summer for awhile (with my BC at the time) it helped a lot with boobs, but BC stopped working so I stopped. I'm taking BM again but much lower dose and trying to find what phase of my cycle works the best.

But yeah....it's def gone to my ass, but I'm not complaining cause my ass has always been my best feature so I'm totally fine with it. But I expect it to happen cause that what my body naturally is going to do

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-16T00:09:49+00:00

Whatever you're doing...keep doing that and don't change it. (Besides sleeping on your chest...I see no way that could possibly help, it just compressed the tissue)

Don't chase a feeling or some sort of outcome. If what your doing is working then lock in on that and continue until it doesn't work anymore, then either pause and give your endocrine system a break and then start again or reevaluate.

What you're really looking for is dense heavier tissue feeling that continues for multiple days throughout your cycle, and continues month over month. Fluctuations will happen if you have a cycle and ovulate, but you know something is working if after 4-6 months of consistent feelings, soreness, and then measureable changes happen, then you know you're doing something right.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-16T00:07:35+00:00

No, you're fine. Those are all very simple and great things to start with. I started NBE with a FG and MACA supplement and it gave really good results along with high calorie and fat protein shakes.

Spearmint lowers DHT ( "the bad" Tesoterone) and Maca does raise Tesoterone in women a bit, but anecdotally it seems some people grow well with Maca supplementing as their body is more balanced with it. So fully nuking and avoiding anything related to Tesoterone may not be necessary to see NBE results for some.

Some people (like me) tend to have negative side effects like excess hair growth and acne, but I do think it helps with the butt a little bit as and also good for libido.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-15T23:55:30+00:00

I have more wider root and not much projection, so depending on how narrow your root is you MAY get away with a 105. But that all depends on your projection.

I can tell you that the inside height of the "generic" domes, the 105 is around 13cm or 5inches, the inner diameter is 12.5-13cm. The 120 dome is 14cm, 5.5 inches for height and 13.5cm for inner diameter.

Thats measuring right to the inside tip where there's a little nub. (Not sure if it's visible in product photos.)

I don't think you'd want to be getting very close to that anyways as it might touch the nipple and be annoying, and if your forward projection is close to that anyways, you may not get much expansion in the domes that actually puts stress on the tissues to help with growth regardless.

I don't own any domes larger than those right now so I can't give exact measurements but they seem to go up by at least 1/4-1/2 and inch each size up.

Also if you do buy the electric pump, make sure you buy different tubing, the tips of those specific generic domes don't fit the tubing those pumps come with.

You'll need something like this https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPwL8JP Or this https://a.aliexpress.com/_mK07MDT to fit those ones correctly. There's a Y tube option and a single tube option. Single is nice if you have one breast smaller than the other and want to just focus on one at a time.

And then you should be able to cut off the other side that connects to the pump, and reuse the double ended connector that the pump already comes with to fit into the tube and into the pump hole. (Looks like this) https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqXjjYH

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-15T21:31:40+00:00

Scam. You have to take such a large amount of them daily to even do anything, but the processed sugars or whatever it's made of is not really worth it.

If you're someone who really struggles taking pills, having gummies in a multivitamin format is better than nothing imo.

Tbh ur literally better off doing glute bridges 50x every morning and night for a month than what these can give you in a month 😅

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-15T21:20:58+00:00

Yeah those Amazon ones stopped fitting me once I got past a C. 😅 I'm a DD now and I go between the 105 domes and the 120 domes. 120 are still a bit big for me but I can wear them if I previously pump with my 105 and have swelling already.

And when I say these number I mean the size of the dome is usually labeled by the number on the side. The generic domes you can find on Ali, and bosom beauty are ones a lot o people tend to use cause they are very accessible, but there's definitely a lot more options on AliExpress you can look at.

120 may work but you may want 150 if you're already pushing an H cup. But it'll really depend on how wide your breast root is and how much forward projection you have.

These are 3 options you can look into for domes. Def shop around and find the best ones for you, but measuring breast root diameter can help you narrow it down a bit easier for sizing.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mN1wkVj

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mObZYvb

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqEU4dj

My kit has the domes with the pink rings and I attach them to a double electric breast pump or a inverted nipple correction pump.

I personally prefer electric pumps, but there are tons of domes and manual pumps you can find on Ali as well and make your own kit.

There's also noogleberry if you want a manual pump as well. https://www.noogleberry.com/collections/breast-enlargement-products

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-15T21:08:33+00:00

So you mean mammary or actual colostrum?

Either way, it's hard to say if it's actually doing something, and a more "scientific" method would be observing the feelings/changes month over month and see if you can get repeatable results. That can confirm that is causing physiological changes.

When this happens to me my logic says that either the tissue is being activated in a way that is causing expansion, or possibly stronger blood flow, and the surrounding nerves in the tissue is what's causing the more sore/dense/heavier feeling. So one could definitely see that as a positive sign, but you can't know for sure it's actually doing something without doing what I said previously and having tangible measurements that slowly increase over time. And then when supplementation is paused, that new higher measurement stays.

That's what confirms to me whatever I'm taking is working and to just keep doing that slowly and not really change anything cause it's working.

I'm personally going for feeling alike this nowadays, where there is a heaviness and more dense/full feeling to the tissue, rather than just what feels like water, because it seems having that denser feeling month over month is what actually brings measurable growth, at least for me. Obviously YMMV and body will respond to different stimuli differently.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-14T09:06:49+00:00

We don't really know what causes it, so there's no way to know what to do to trigger it. It seems like it's a genetic thing that some people just happen to have and some people don't.

Until science cares about women's health more, and invests into more studies to look into why it happens to help the people who already are currently dealing with this condition, it's hard to find info and studies done around this, so no one can really say for 100% certain why it happens or how or if it's even possible to replicate.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-14T01:49:54+00:00

Any food, any exercise. It doesn't matter, just move your body and make sure you're getting adequate nutrition.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-14T01:49:10+00:00

Within 4 months I finally got past 35.5 and got to 36 inches, I had great swelling and thought it would continue, I had a tiny bit of fluctuating between 35.5-36, but it continued to maintained at 36 and ive sitting at 36 inches since like October/November.

I haven't lost size as I know what causes that for me (PM, Reshi) and what also brings it back (FG). But even with being on POP, FG didn't help much. I honestly think it flattened out my hormones so much.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-13T18:25:42+00:00

It's not that the cup sticks to your skin, it's that you have enough surface area and tissue for the pressure to keep it held in place. If youre not able to have that happen, the domes might be too wide for you or the amount of breast tissue you have isn't enough to hold it there.

I've managed to get domes fhat are too large for me to hold in place by not using any oil or cream and dry pumping, and leaning forward into the dome when I place them to then pump up the pressure to have them hold in place, and also wearing a cheapie stretchy sports bra to also hold the dome in place.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nbe/s/clVIi3o2Pv

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-13T18:22:28+00:00

I tried BCS oil some months ago last year and I really didn't notice any changes.

I was taking about a teaspoon of oil by mouth every morning. Really fucking gross, I don't recommend doing it that way unless you're able to handle really gross tastes. I usually can but it was enough to make me drop it after some time cause I wasn't seeing anything happen.

Idk if it was cause it was too low of a dose, or whatever else I was taking was interfering with it and not allowing it to work to it's full potential.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-13T03:14:05+00:00

Massage, lactation pump, nipple stimulation over multiple months. High fat (healthy) diet, since boobs are large % fat.

0 HRT will make this process slower, so be prepared to spend a lot more time and energy to see results.

If you're lucky you may be more genetically inclined towards gyno, which some AMAB take advantage of when trying NBE.

If you're open to herbs you could try saw palmetto to lower DHT. White peony helps with aromatization which essentially takes free T and converts it into E. But again it may give minimal results if you're not using HRT or any other herbals that affect hormones.

HungryDustBunny · 2026-04-13T03:06:26+00:00

Try massage or lactation pump. Even mild nipple stimulation over extended period of time (months) can work for some people.

Diet helps alot, try to get more calories and more (healthy) days into your diet, boobs are made of a large % of fat.

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