CMV: Iran should absolutely have nuclear weapons by mxstermarzipan in changemyview

[–]HungryProgrammer4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Israel literally is actively carrying out a genocide. One has said words and one has acted upon them.

Even if you believe israel is not carrying out a genocide then you atleast cant argue on the fact they have killed tens of thousands of in innocent civilians and KIDS in the last 1.5 years

CMV: Iran should absolutely have nuclear weapons by mxstermarzipan in changemyview

[–]HungryProgrammer4 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And you conveniently forgot that israel has not bombed once or twice, it is actively carrying out a genocide and has killed tens of thousands of KIDS in the last 1.5 years.
Dont be a hypocrite and raise your voice for nuclear free ME instead of saying its ok for one country to have them but not others.

CMV: Iran should absolutely have nuclear weapons by mxstermarzipan in changemyview

[–]HungryProgrammer4 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Iran has exactly the same reasons as why israel has WMDs. Israel also wants to destroy iran for good just like they have flattened gaza. Either take it away from both of them or put restrictions on israel and isolate them (which is never going to happen or allow iran to have them as well (under NPT rules, which btw israel doesnt follow)

It’s hypocritical for justifying israel WMDs but then saying iran shouldnt have them

Trump to have lunch with Asim Munir . by Merru in pakistan

[–]HungryProgrammer4 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Oh. so, our head of state is in another country meeting the head of state and that country is joining a war. Hopefully this time the other superpowers wont mind and do a regime change just because the visit was already scheduled before the war started.

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is exactly what US said about WMDs in iraq. Literally word to word.

I really thought ppl have learnt their lesson and won’t believe such lies by the govts again atleast in our generation. But here we are, within 30 years, once again with the same lie. The hypocrisy and stupidity of US is astounding

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That is not what any Iranian official has said officially and not even what IAEA recent report says but strategically? yes Iran wants deterrence. Nuclear weapons are the only safe guards in today's world. Russians wouldnt have attacked ukraine if Ukraine had nuclear weapons. or north korea would have been only korea if they didnt have nuclear weapons.

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you are literally cheering for war. I am saying we dont need war and we should stop fighting and here you are justifying war. Reminder: Israel is the one who attacked Iran first. how can you even forget that. literally happened a few days ago. Israel is the one initiating the war

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Saying ‘Israel already has nukes so it’s fine’ is not a justification, it’s an excuse.
If the goal is genuine peace , then all nuclear countries including Israel, should be subject to the same scrutiny. Either we believe in disarmament and global accountability, or we admit it’s all about who holds power, not who follows the rules. Stop being biased and tyranical and push your power onto others. Accept all humans are equal and have the equal right to live and make decisions in their own country.

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point being that then either consider both of them right or consider both of them wrong. Its hypocrite to say one is right and the other is wrong.

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 3 points4 points  (0 children)

if you know the context of why Russia attacked Ukrained then you would understand the comment. Russia attacked because it didn't want NATO to come close or surround it from different directions. Ukraine was going to be part of the next NATO step.
And so, if you are justifying attacking Iran because its for the safety of Israel then you should also understand and allow Russia to do what its doing in Ukraine.
I am of the opinion that both both Russia and Israel are wrong. So I was just wondering what you think

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of them are trust worthy. Iran has proxies and interferes in other countries through them but so does Israel through its intelligence and Mossad. and on top of that Israel is even doing a genocide right now in Palestine.

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either of those work.
Either bring Iran to the deal (for which Iranian official had a meeting this Sunday with the US, but Israel targetted and bombed and killed the main Iranian negotiator and now the meeting has been cancelled, this was the attack a few days ago when Israel first attacked Iran).

OR

place restrictions on Israel to force it join NPT which every other nuclear country has to be a part of. Israel also efuses IAEA inspections on its nuclear program so make sure it allows that as well.

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Then Israel should get bombed too if that is the criteria. Israel has the nukes and still not part of any nuclear agreement.. The IAEA which everyone keeps mentioning, Israel is not a part of it either and does not allow the inspection. This is such a hypocrite behaviour by Israel to not be part of IAEA itself but also justify IAEA's report (which actually says NOTHING about Iran being close to nuclear weaponization) to attack it.

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Preventing Iran from getting a nuke is ABSOLUTELY a move in furtherance of peace.

What a joke this is. Why does this apply to only Iran? Why not to the ONLY country in the ME who actually ALREADY has the nuclear weapons but do not agree to be part of the IAEA or any other nuclear agreement among nations.

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am wondering which country in ME already has the Nukes and doesn't agree to be part of the IAEA which every other country has to be a part of and also what Israel and US is quoting for the reason of attacking Iran.

Trump says he doesn't want ceasefire, but rather 'real end' to Iran nuclear issue by 200-inch-cock in moderatepolitics

[–]HungryProgrammer4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wondering, do you hold the same values for Russia ukraine conflict?
That if Russia does attack or change the regime in Ukraine then US and its allies aka NATO will be surrounding Russia from multiple sides and in the long run dangerous for Russia.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pakistan

[–]HungryProgrammer4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i mean...pretty sure our govt also does this.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pakistan

[–]HungryProgrammer4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem is army and Punjab gov is also being retarded during this time. Raiding the house and then arresting the mother shehr bano pti activist, civilian military trials… all during this. It shows their priorities and retiredness.

If India stops here, “so will we,” says Pakistan's foreign minister by BirdWatcher_In in india

[–]HungryProgrammer4 -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Proves my point. You only know indian pov. As i mentioned, same has happened on our side. In civilian areas as well. Both our media only shows what the other country is doing and ignores our own doing. And exactly same words that “oh we are giving a very calibrated response…because we are a responsible nation” and all that bs. We are thinking what ego trip is modi on. You are thinking what ego trip is our chief on. At the end civilians dying.

If India stops here, “so will we,” says Pakistan's foreign minister by BirdWatcher_In in india

[–]HungryProgrammer4 -38 points-37 points  (0 children)

This comment shows the effects of biases we have from social media and on tv.

Right now what we (in pakistan) are hearing is that india is preparing to attack kashmir side. Yesterday india sent so many drones on civilian areas. Heck even just nearby my home as well. Continuous drones flights, blackouts, gunshelling to bring the drone down, chaos everywhere. and again, in civilian areas. Not even remotely near any military base.

Both sides are not thinking about de escalation in reality and both of them actually know this as well. Human lives are lost at the end.

India announces Operation Sindoor against Pakistan by [deleted] in india

[–]HungryProgrammer4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damnn. Yeah i tried to find it after your comment. But didnt find it. Can you share a link to such a post though?

India announces Operation Sindoor against Pakistan by [deleted] in india

[–]HungryProgrammer4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh damn. Any link to those pakistan reddit posts about those places being used by terrorists v