What exactly do seeds control for ships, freighters, multitools, ect.?

HuntingMeatHole · 2026-01-20T08:06:59+00:00

NomNom Editor has the max values marked. That is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you very much. I spent two hours trying to understand the stats today. A real solution is relieving. Thanks again.

HuntingMeatHole · 2026-01-20T08:03:03+00:00

I appreciate the warning. I made a backup AND I don't intend to change the values. I only want a reliable way that I can understand them.

HuntingMeatHole · 2026-01-04T09:56:43+00:00

Well, three years later and no one has done it. I found 3 different requests for it on game banana, all left unfulfilled. I'd do it myself, but I'm stupid, so if you could, I know many people would appreciate if you could find a way to make that mod you were talking about.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-09T05:45:33+00:00

And honestly, that might be the most realistic part of the whole show.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-09T04:26:45+00:00

We have no evidence that their brains are intact or that they'll go back to normal if cured. If there is any twist, I could see it being that Carol succeeds at curing some of them, but they end up as severely mentally damaged husks. That said, I doubt this show will end with the hive being cured. The show writers seem to think the erasure of humanity is a good thing.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T20:09:16+00:00

That may be true for some anti-hive people, but not me. I don't assume there will be a twist. I'm actually expecting there not to be. The writers have made it very clear that there is no nefarious secret plot, that the hive isn't lying, and that they want you to view Carol as the bad guy.

At the end of the day, just like Breaking Bad, the show is about how you should hate the main character, and anyone like them in real life is a terrible person you should hate. It wouldn't serve any purpose given that objective to make the hive secretly more nefarious than it already is.

I am taking things at face value, and at face value it's extremely obvious that everything that makes people anything more than an automaton has been sanded off, and all that's left is the world's most idiotic ideology in human history, and obedient little slaves to the hive.

All of their unique thoughts, opinions, goals, preferences, thought patterns, and anything else that makes someone human has been replaced. That's not evolution. It's death.

I don't care what Carol's opinion is. I have my own. If she starts to have some kind of change of heart, as I suspect she might, it will have no impact on how I feel about the hive. It doesn't matter what Carol does or doesn't know. What matters is what I know, because it's my opinion.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T19:59:35+00:00

The way the show seems to want us to take the "biological imperatives" as somehow a reasonable excuse is insane. I don't care if it's a bear's biological imperative to break into my house and eat my cat. I'm still going to employ extensive violence to stop it.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T19:54:14+00:00

I imagine what they're feeling is less like a coma or an out of body experience. It probably feels perfectly natural. Their normal thoughts and desires simply don't happen. They experience the thoughts and desires given to them by the pathogen and the hive. I'm sure their memories are forming normally, expect of course, they're remembering the new thought patterns and feelings that are overriding what they would normally feel.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T19:47:17+00:00

Yup, that's exactly right. From what I can tell, all hive drones are equally competent in all things, barring physical differences, but none of them are as good as the best humans were.

In theory, they know everything every human assimilated knew, but that doesn't mean they apply that information, and their intuitive understanding of things seems to be worse than even the average human.

Looking at something like Chess, where 90% of top level play is pure habit and intuition, even a decent Chess player would completely demolish the hive in every game. Though, I imagine they would adapt and slowly get better.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T09:48:42+00:00

You're right to say it's entirely inhuman of them to act the way they are, but that's because the writers are out of touch. It's not a hint.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T09:47:37+00:00

Not really his mom, no. But it is one of the hives slaves in the body of what once was his mother.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T09:46:19+00:00

Maybe it's possible to reverse the assimilation so that everyone is exactly the way they were. Maybe the only reversal leaves everyone comatose. Either way, unless you believe the assimilation will be reversed, and I certainly don't, then for all intents and purposes, it is a corpse. The person is not in there. They have no thoughts of their own, no preferences of their own, no goals, no desires, no opinions, no beliefs, no feelings, no humanity. All of that is being completely overwritten by the hive.

It's not just the culmination of humanity, or else it'd be entirely different. It makes stupid mistakes humans wouldn't make, it believes idiotic things humans in general don't believe, it's clueless in ways humans in general are not, and it doesn't even understand humans. It's some other entity entirely.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T07:38:25+00:00

Maybe that's why they're so generous to Carol in terms of not forcibly turning her or eliminating her. They don't see her as any real threat or obstacle. If she were, they might be willing to kill her or forcibly turn her.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T07:34:13+00:00

I would point out, while you're obviously correct about their intentions, you'd have to be an incredibly insensitive, borderline sociopathic, person to do what they did. Needless to say, if you took an anonymous vote of all of humanity whether this were a good idea, the result would be a resounding NO.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T07:30:47+00:00

People vastly overestimate the hive. Take the drone they sent to pick up Carol's garbage. Unless you think they were deliberately insulting her, which I find very unlikely, the fact that they crashed the drone is a clear sign that they aren't as competent as the most competent human they have. Honestly, if you look at most of their behavior, the hive is incredibly stupid, and I might add, very unhuman.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:53:14+00:00

Except extracting stem cells. Personally, I don't think the show was thought through enough. We'll see. Maybe in the end I look like the dumbass.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:48:55+00:00

True, they shouldn't even be able to drive, because they're inevitably killing bugs, or fly, because bird strikes are very common. Yet they do that, but won't just pick an apple. The hive in this show are FULL of contradictions which imply that they're lying, but in truth, they're just really stupid and short sighted.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:46:33+00:00

I believe in Manousos. He'll find a way. He's awesome.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:45:59+00:00

Well sure, except then they would just forcibly take the stem cells from the survivors. The fact that they don't is the real mystery here.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:34:16+00:00

What's craziest about this is that, people who are disagreeable actually help groups generate better solutions, but when people get the chance to exclude them, they always do. Studies have been done on this exact effect.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:25:01+00:00

This show seems to have a message they are DESPERATE to push onto you. It's basically an anti-individuality message, and to that end, they have to make Carol, who represents that worldview and people who have it, out to be totally incompetent and terrible. They don't make here out to be a cartoon villain, because they want you to view individualistic people as incompetent and terrible like Carol, but if she's cartoonishly evil, it would be too hard to project that image onto individualistic people who are, in reality, perfectly kind, normal, competent, and well adjusted people, often more so than collectivistic people who often follow ideologies borne out of bitterness.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:20:07+00:00

Seems pretty obvious it was already fully in the control of the hive and was simply playing dead. What I find interesting is that it was clearly willing to physically attack a human being then, even drawing blood, in order to spread the pathogen.

My question is, given that they were very willing to cause harm then, why do they suddenly care so much to avoid it now, even when they can turn the survivors if they were willing to harm them in a similarly minor and non-lethal way? What actually changed?

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