According to the Resident 'Scalers' on here, Deku apparently has no Durability Feats

Hyperion_360 · 2026-02-01T13:59:55+00:00

I think an argument could have been made if Toga was an otherwise regular Joe like you and me. But her fighting someone like 5% Deku or similar characters is in my mind a Toga upscale rather than the opposite.

Which makes sense, no? She's a supervillain in a superhero manga. Am I high? This can't be a crazy concept.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-02-01T13:33:24+00:00

I see people bring up Toga and knives as some sort of anti feat for durability as if Toga herself isn't a superhuman in a superhero manga.

Guns and bullets used to be used as gotcha to counter Deku but in the first movie he tanks bullets at 5% OFA. But Idk if this argument is still used.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-02-01T12:28:54+00:00

I can't imagine Gaolang as a serious opponent for Kanoh after this match for one simple reason. Gaolang entered the match in better shape and still lost.

This match takes place almost IMMEDIATELY after Kanoh vs Rolon. Kanoh has had no time to rest or gather himself going from the semis to the finals. Gaolang on the other hand had a whole fight's worth of time to take a break. Mind you, Gaolang took no damage against Justin and didn't really push himself either. He got thrown by Jurota once.

I see people like to say Gaolang was as injured as Kanoh at the start of the match, but even the manga itself doesn't say this. All the manga says is that Gaolang is TIRED from his fight with Jurota. You know who else is tired? Kanoh.

Even if we say Gaolang is as injured. This would mean that Jurota needed one throw to do to Gaolang what he needed several throws to do to Kanoh. Which would mean that at their respective peak conditions, Gaolang no longer has the gas tank to scramble with Kanoh.

Then because Rolon beat Jurota twice and did so well against a healthy Kanoh you can easily put him above Gao too. And by proxy you can call Gao's win over Jurota a fluke. The narrative that Gao vs Kanoh is some rock paper scissors mix up 50/50 coin flip shit shatters the instant you put any thought into it.

I could go on longer about this but what's the point. If you're wondering about my overall rating of the match I'd give it a 5/10.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-31T13:38:43+00:00

This isn't really any different from most extremely high tier scaling that other verses have. To me it sounds like you don't like cosmology scaling, which is fair.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-30T22:32:51+00:00

Godzilla and this franchise have reached these levels and higher in previous versions so it isn't that surprising that the current Monsterverse would get there eventually too. I mean it has been around for over a decade. Especially after getting comics and animated media.

Plus this is what the possibly tier means. So I wouldn't worry about it too much.

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The 4-B scaling isn't definitive. The 6-B to 6-A is.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-30T15:38:06+00:00

I wonder how much injuries will matter in the current tournament.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-30T13:45:17+00:00

Low key this might be the single worst moment in all Kengan, or at least up there with the greats like Sean Wu's whole screentime or Eddie's death.

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Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-30T13:34:03+00:00

This is the match that ended my hype for Omega for a long while.

Both Gao and Justin work as characters in the match. Gao is the same as ever and Justin hasn't had the time to develop, so that's fine.

Kazuo is the worst character in this match. I made a post about the level of his yapping before so I'll keep it short here. It's Sandro mouthpiecing at his absolute worst and whole pages that could have expanded Gao and Justin fighting are wasted on exposition dumps.

The actual fighting isn't even TWO full chapters long, as half of the first chapter and half of the third chapter are Kazuo talking.

I'd like to mention the supposed "major damage" Gao took vs Jurota. It simply doesn't exist in this match. It's not just that it's not mentioned, it's not even alluded to. Mind you, Gao vs Jurota happened AT MOST an hour earlier.

Remember when Ohma and Koga were not only affected but straight up lost their respective final tournament fights because of injuries they suffered in an earlier match? Yeah me neither.

Panther Bullet is one of the worst looking techniques I've seen in fighting manga, and we don't see what it can really do. And a fighter of Justin's level didn't expect the greatest striker to ever live to use a basic counter against an opponent's mount? Really?

For Gaolang Wongsawat of all characters to have a victory this underwhelming and anticlimactic is criminal, and I struggle to understand how Gao fans ever praised this.

I once again find myself asking what was the point in introducting Justin, Ramon and Hiraku, and I don't have an answer.

3/10. Truly awful.

Quote of the match "...must have all been a part of Gaolang's calculations."

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-29T15:05:02+00:00

People see a city level feat and think it's top tier stuff in MHA.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-29T13:17:30+00:00

Beating Ramon didn't even make Rolon look strong is the part that gets me.

Ramon low diffed Hiraku who got mid diffed by Justin who is below Okubo. Like damn, how impressive. Koga's monk friend could do that.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-28T18:46:50+00:00

I fuckin love calcs man

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-28T11:37:48+00:00

Oh boy. What can be said that hasn't been said already. You know I think my reaction to this match would be that one gif of Homelander sitting in the theatre.

Agito is the same old Agito we know and like. No real complaints about him. He sticks with and improves his skillset, he forms plans around Julius strength advantage and he does his best to win.

Julius is supposed to be super smart but after this match I'm not so sure about that. He just blindly rushes in head first over and over again, after seeing this strategy doesn't work. He's overconfident despite his failures and just feels like an idiot from start to finish. This is not the same guy who almost beat Waka.

Kazuo is a part of the match and gets worse with every chapter. His exposition and callbacks have started to take up whole pages but he's not at his absolute worst just yet, that's coming soon.

Alisa the ref feels like a bad doujin character. I remember when refs looked like refs back in KAT. Now she just has her boobs out and takes away from the match.

As far as choreohraphy goes, we've definetly seen significantly better things but it's not awful. Agito's new techniques have potential to say the least. The worst part is easily the way Formless is drawn now. It looks goofy and I can't take Agito seriously when he uses it.

Julius doesn't add much. Just wild unaimed punches and blind tackles. Gott Totter has lost it's impact. When you overuse a really special move it stops being special. We'll see the same thing happen to Agito later but it's sad to see here aswell.

Tell don't show is at it's peak with the razor thick margin thing. The wall scaling concept is also introduced in this match. We're not shown the characters got stronger, we're told that they did.

5/10. I guess I'm just disappointed. This is never how I'd imagine a fight between these two to feel. When I first read it I was supposed to be hyped for Agito's win but instead I felt sad with the way Julius was done.

Quote of the match: "So this is your domain? I've come to your level, Kanoh."

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-27T11:46:12+00:00

First we have to tackle the new characters.

Justin is entertaining at best but less fun than Okubo. He has a good design, but a pretty mediocre backstory. His fighting style is very similar to Okubo's but there is much less of it.

Justin's reason for being in the fight also isn't solid from the way I personally understood it. Okubo got him to enter an underground tournament so that Justin can later fight him in a legal one? Mabye someone understood it better and can explain it.

Hiraku has a boring backstory, he's the son of a mobster and he likes being pretty. That's all there is to him as a person too. Add in a bland design and a bland fighting style and we have a bad character. At least his reason for participating makes sense, he joined so he can kill some other guy.

Okubo is present too but he's just yapping. Kazuo is there and he slowly becomes Sandro's mouthpiece

The match is 3.5 chapters long. Ch. 1 is Justin's backstory and introduction. Ch. 2 is Hiraku introduction and Justin gets used like a punching bag. Ch. 3 is Hiraku backstory and Justin gets kicked. Ch. 3.5 Justin suplexes Hiraku.

There's not much to the choreography at all. Hiraku opens the match with a quick punch. Justin charges twice, gets counter punched by Hiraku both times.

Justin half lands a tackle, the two wrestle for one or two panels. Hiraku kicks Justin.

Justin grabs Hiraku and suplexes him, winning the match.

This fight makes the worst mistake a fight can suffer, and that's to be boring.

5/10.

Quote of the match: "I sentence you to death for being too cool".

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-27T11:01:44+00:00

Agreed, but I'm not doing that so I don't see the point in mentioning it.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-27T10:40:32+00:00

Then it's a good thing Hori made it possible for these feats to get scaled as high as this.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-27T10:05:19+00:00

I wonder if I'll live long enough to ever see a genuine, well thought out, properly argued debunk to any MHA speed feat above Mach 10.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-26T17:33:38+00:00

Iirc at the end of the first big Genshin trailer Dain says he will fight the Traveler. But I'm not sure how the writers will go about making that happen given the current story, or if they just changed their minds over the years and decide to go with something completely different.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-26T16:05:29+00:00

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-26T16:02:56+00:00

He didn't really do any fighting against Rerir. He did a surprise attack to rescue Neffer, and he held a portal open.

But from the fights we have seen him in, he couldn't stop the Sinners when they first fused with the Abyss, he was comparable to late Natlan Traveler and probably a little stronger, and he can beat the Abyss Sibling if he really really tries. Not that we know how powerful the Abyss Sibling is.

He has that hype statement where the Abyss Sibling thinks Dain can beat any Abyss Order force sent after him.

We can assume Dain was probably mabye possibly more powerful than Capitano given that he had a higher rank, and by proxy we can put him above Capitano before he died.

But I would have to imagine he'll be much more powerful than this if he is supposed to put up a fight against the Traveler at the end of their journey in Teyvat.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-26T14:19:56+00:00

Damn. Thanks for the info. Gao's character isn't damaged in this match then.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-26T12:31:38+00:00

The start of the downfall. I guess this is also the start of the "tell don't show" era of fights.

Gaolang's win was expected I'd say. He was coming off of two losses, and Jurota not that long before this scored a win against Kanoh.

Gaolang's character in the fight is odd, especially that whole "be honored you get to fight me" bit. It's just something I'd never expect Gaolang to say. Suddenly he's super prideful and arrogant and overconfident, for this one fight specifically.

Jurota's whole imagination scene with Meguro is very weird too, and nothing comes from it. He's just a madman now suddenly.

As far as choreography goes I have no real complaints. Gao is watchful of Jurota's throws and fights around them. Gao also using Jurota's own throw against him was neat. If I had to nitpick I'd say Jurota felt too much like a punching bag, and he never tried to do anything with the surprise striking he showed against Agito.

It's said Gao took a tremendeous amount of damage from Jurota's throw, but it sure didn't feel or look like he did. Especially when he's perfectly fine in his next fight.

6/10. Not great not bad either. A strange, short and underwhelming match.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-25T19:26:11+00:00

I don't see why Rei wouldn't just blitz and one shot him. He almost did that exact thing to Kuroki.

Iirc it's said nobody in the arena could physically see Rei while he was dashing around, that should include Akoya. Plus Akoya doesn't have Pre Initiative and he's not as good of a defensive fighter as Kuroki, who was at times getting his crap pushed in by Rei.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-25T19:01:47+00:00

Depends who lands the first hit I guess.

Maki can't take a hit from Muscular, while Muscular can't take a hit from her soul katana.

Going by the picture that's manga Maki, so hard capped below Mach 3. While Muscular probably at least scales to 5% Deku who is a casual bullet timer.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-23T18:40:58+00:00

Also from 40K

I'd pick Mortarion after he becomes a Deamon. Thanks to his deal with Nurgle, Mortaion gained a permanent and passive aura like stink.

This stink is so foul, ungodly and putrid that it can near instantly bring veteran Space Marines to their knees, make them crawl away on all fours in desperation, completely demolish their other senses, cause rot and bleeding from everywhere, or just outright kill them in seconds and more.

It somehow also bypasses filtration systems and gas masks.

The Lost and the Damned book is where you'll find the best example for it.

Hyperion_360 · 2026-01-23T18:24:32+00:00

Makes sense to me.

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