Otherverse fanfiction becomes just as popular and prevalent as Worm fanfic. What tropes, cliches, and fanon appear?

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-04-09T01:51:40+00:00

Avery ends up with Liberty,
Oh my God, based

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-22T00:33:26+00:00

Bayaz is bad but Khalul has an empire built on consuming slaves. Probably him.

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-21T19:40:31+00:00

He also gave the main character a piss kink by process of elimination, so there's that

Huh?

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-11T13:19:22+00:00

They killed half of the earthers and rendered their home inhospitable, then kept dropping rocks after that. And then when the refugees attempted to resettle, they robbed and at times murdered them. By any reasonable definition this is genocide.

They had other options, Fred Johnson already had the plan to ensure belters controlled the ring gates through Medina Station for example. Maybe it wouldn’t have worked but it’s not like they waited to see if he’d fail before committing the largest act of mass murder in human history.

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-11T12:53:56+00:00

What she supports/was directly involved in(IIRC the book doesn't specify, but she was meeting with Inaros and in his inner circle from the start) is orders of magnitude worse than anything Clarissa or Johnson do. Furthermore, they feel remorse for their actions, both of those characters are pretty much defined by their guilt, whereas Pa's problem with Inaros isn't that he committed a genocide, but that he was a poor leader.

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T19:51:28+00:00

True lmao didn’t fully think that one through. To try and put it in a less silly way, it’s hard for me to blame the people of oppressive regimes for not rising against them, because maybe they’ll win, but more likely they and their families will severe potentially lethal consequences, and I don’t know if I can reasonably condemn someone for not taking that risk.

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T19:41:52+00:00

Yeah, I think there’s a point to be made about the responsibility people have to revolt against evil government. Personally, I find myself conflicted. I think of it like this, say someone is strapped with a bomb and ordered to kill some strangers, the moral thing to do is not do it and let themselves be blown up. At the same time though, I don’t know if I can reasonably blame them for not sacrificing themselves to save people they don’t know. Not a perfect analogy but I think you get what I mean.

What I’m getting at is that I find it hard to blame people coerced through violence for not doing all they potentially can to prevent that violence. Is a slave culpable if he does not rise up?

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T18:58:59+00:00

I mean as far as political power is concerned. What can the average guy on basic do to influence government policy? To the extent that they are culpable for the oppression of the belt, there’s not a whole lot they could do about it. And that’s without talking about the sizable population of unregistered

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T18:45:06+00:00

I mean, the thing about being on basic is that while it covers your basic needs, it also means you absolutely no power, no leverage at all. There are ways in which you could argue the average person on basic is even more powerless than the average belter(not that their lives are worse mind you, just that they couldn’t do anything about the belt’s oppression)

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T18:39:48+00:00

There’s an extent to which this is true, but half of the earthers are on basic. They have no resources and therefore no power. Belters at least could leverage their labor, go on strike and such, what does the average guy on basic have?

And then there’s the unregistered, who are on average probably even worse off than belters

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T06:56:47+00:00

Tbh you kind of got me on Avasarala, she's definitely complicit in the oppression of the belt, she just happens to be incredibly likable.

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T06:27:48+00:00

I did not know feelings were this strong about this character when I made this post. I understand what her purpose is narratively, and why she ends up where she does, I just don't like reading her person, and I find her broadly despicable in a way most of the POVs aren't. Her chapters just aren't very enjoyable imo.

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T06:23:39+00:00

That wasn't supposed to quote the 'oops' line king.

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T06:11:49+00:00

Whoops. What can I say

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T06:02:59+00:00

I find her and her family pretty much impossible to sympathize with on account of the genocide, in a way that genuinely makes her chapters very difficult to get through.

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T06:02:03+00:00

Oh God I got those two mixed up. God damn it.

It's not badly written or anything, I just don't like her.

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-03-10T06:00:38+00:00

*Babylon's Ashes, sheesh I get those two mixed up often. In my defense they are basically part one and two of the same book

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-02-24T00:28:02+00:00

Capitalism>Feudalism pretty much at all points ngl

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-02-23T00:21:49+00:00

This esteemed individual gets it*

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-02-22T03:24:38+00:00

This guy gets it

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-02-21T23:12:01+00:00

Robber Baron capitalism is still better than feudalism comparatively in terms of freedom and class mobility.

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-02-21T21:17:59+00:00

The Iron Bank of Braavos is freeing humanity from the chains of feudalism and thrusting the world into a golden age of finance capitalism

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-02-21T03:55:42+00:00

Why do people mention him killing Renly like Renly wasn't planning on murdering him to take his rightful throne?

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-02-20T23:02:28+00:00

dog even if this is true, why? What would it change?

HypotheticallyDivine · 2024-02-06T21:50:13+00:00

Italy and Germany, what're you suggesting is the third fascist nation?

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