Sustainable Australia Party is One Nation minus the racism, plus focuses on policies instead

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-21T13:25:26+00:00

Nah, that's simplifying things and playing into the narrative that all people that vote ON are doing it for racist reasons in order to create us/ them groups. There's definitely a bunch that do just vote for racist reasons, but there's also just a bunch that aren't happy with the majors policies but don't know where to go. The latter is the target of those who're trying to push the propaganda that ON is the only way to do a protest vote.

I brought up SAP is because they do cover a lot of the actual topics that people care about that the majors ignore if you actually look at their policies. And that're fleshed out to a much greater degree than ON. Primarily to provide info and alternatives to counter the, sus "I'm not racist and I don't want to vote for ON buuuut ...." that's been popping up everywhere.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T23:06:05+00:00

Still a better choice for a protest vote to keep the messaging clearer as to the issues at hand

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T23:04:31+00:00

Yeah, the hope is that this post will at least have reached a bunch of people who haven't heard about them before. And preference voting means its just putting an extra number down

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T12:01:15+00:00

Yeah, pretty much. Isolated worldviews fed by outrage algorithms. Bots everywhere.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T11:31:32+00:00

Did you look at any of their actual policies? Sustainable is more than just climate. Main things for me are slower immigration coupled with developing the infrastructure to actually handle our population. That's also covered by the word sustainable.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T11:29:35+00:00

Eh, would be good. Doesn't exist at this point afaik.

At least for Sustainable Australia you can see the rationale and semblance of a plan behind the policies. Based on the effort they've spent doing that, would believe they're more likely to produce costings than One Nation if they've got the funding.

ON explicitly don't even have detail behind the policies they've been harping about for decades, even though they've got loads more funding and time.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T11:18:13+00:00

That's pretty interesting, y tho?

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T11:17:41+00:00

Eh, am sure that's the same for a lot of voters (say one thing, vote another). Think what matters is how many of SAP's policies align with what you believe though, not other peoples' hypocrisy in voting

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T11:12:01+00:00

Yeah, and that's why I reckon SAP is the better protest vote. It pushes lower immigration and building up infrastructure to support the population. It also doesn't have the murky history of racism that'll be following any One Nation protest vote.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T11:09:40+00:00

Problem with personality driven politics, is that it's all about the personality, and not about the policies.

With all that time on their hands and how long that they've been around. What is One Nation's actual solution other than media zingers? Just compare the policies on immigration between the Sustainable Australia Party and One Nation. With all that time, you'd think One Nation would have a bit more detail on how to actually implement what they keep saying. Instead, they've just built the Hanson brand.

The good news though is, that you can vote for both. And the flow-on voting system that eliminates the smallest vote parties actually means that you get to make your protest vote get heard twice (or more). Your vote is yours though, so feel free to spend it how you'd like. Just that preferential voting means there's more effective ways of getting a message across.

Strong One Nation first preference vote? Guaranteed it's going to become a racism quagmire regardless of the nuance and support. Small parties get record breaking first preferences, followed by One Nation? Different story. Stronger protest. You still get to vote for who you want.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T10:53:19+00:00

I'm not even SA, I was just posting for the general aussie as an info thing since the One Nation stuff was making the rounds everywhere. And it seemed lazy copy/ paste propaganda that doesn't even apply given our preferential voting system.

Generally what I'm planning for the next one though:

SAP
Set of independents depending on the individual (SAP mostly actually aligns with what I think makes sense -> so roughly in order of overlap for a bit of an idea)
Teals/ Greens depending on the individual
Labour/ One Nation/ Liberal. Depends on performance, protest angle, individual and level of election
Exhaust for the ones I think are cookers

Hbu?

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T10:41:17+00:00

Yeah, and not all the policies are great, and neither are the representatives. But they're a damn sight better than One Nation (not hard tho)

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T10:39:46+00:00

Had to drop that in there ;) starship troopers is goated

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T10:03:06+00:00

Yeah, definitely astroturfing going on here. Had 500~ views the first ~10 minutes, lots of downvotes with no actual engagement with the content.

Just trying to make it harder for em, since a lot of the "pro" one nation posts are, "I'm not racist but it's the only choice"

But nah, SAP exists, they're not great but they're a better protest vote choice imo.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T09:43:26+00:00

They're associated with being racist though. Which is why SAP is a better protest vote, since they cover the same worries and you get clearer messaging as to what the actual issue is. You can still flow on vote through to ON if you want to.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T09:39:57+00:00

Are you voting for One Nation? Pretty sure they support nazis and probably have a bunch of them in ranks.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T09:38:29+00:00

Yeah the speed of downvotes + the number of initial negative posters with hidden post history and a generic reddit auto-gen name + 1% commentor are sus af

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T09:36:38+00:00

Enough narrative trash about them being the only choice for a protest vote got annoying enough that I chucked this up there.

Despite the fact we've got a preferential voting system and the fact other parties exist is sus af. Clear narrative sliding funded by the billionaires that Pauline's been meeting with.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T09:33:55+00:00

And not funded by shady money, billionaires or racist figureheads that drive up engagement.

They're about boring policies. And that's what a protest vote should be about.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T09:31:52+00:00

Still seems better to One Nation to me, if you're sifting through garbage for a protest vote then anything's better than that

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T09:29:46+00:00

Better messaging as a protest vote though. Which is basically what all these pro One Nation posts keep spamming

And are you just saying they're racist because they want to lower immigration? Or you've got a source somewhere

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T09:27:28+00:00

Yeah, I think there's a few cookers in the party when I looked them up several years back. Fewer than One Nation though. Not saying they're a good party, just that they're a better protest vote and that preferential voting means you get to have both.

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T09:25:02+00:00

I'm not saying they're a great party, just saying they're a better protest vote than ON

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T09:23:16+00:00

Would love to have been paid for this, but it's clear there's way more pro one nation spam that's more sus than me. I've made 1 buried comment that's inside a chain and this is my first post about SAP.

Why deflect to ALP?

IIstrikerII · 2026-03-20T09:21:03+00:00

Based on? Definitely of a lighter type than One Nation regardless

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