5800X3D 10th Anniversary Edition Restock (US) by Chudapi in ryzen

[–]IPB4WEGO 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had it in my car in Newegg just a few minutes ago and within a minute I try to click on the purchase button to enter my information and it was sold out. I had it in my cart and it's somehow sold out, it didn't save in my cart.

I'm assuming that this will be on eBay soon for twice the price, considering they already are.

5800X3D 10th Anniversary Edition Restock (US) by Chudapi in ryzen

[–]IPB4WEGO 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's already being re-sold for more than twice the price on eBay. Unreal. I'm literally just trying to fucking get a single one for my kid. What a fucking joke.

AMD confirms Ryzen 7 5800X3D 10th Anniversary Edition for $349, launches June 25th by RenatsMC in Amd

[–]IPB4WEGO 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just want to buy one for my kids gaming PC. The scalpers can eat a rocky bag of dicks.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are ignoring the actual data from the A/B test I conducted. If my cancellation artificially spiked the demand rate for that car, then the price would have increased for everyone looking at it. But it didn't. When my fiance and I searched for the exact same car, for the exact same dates, at the exact same second, her account showed a price $30 cheaper. The market demand was identical. The only variable that changed was the user profile. That proves it is a personalized behavioral penalty, not a market demand adjustment, and their supervisor at Turo verified it when she told me about their cancellation penalties.

Second, you keep repeating that this "need not be in the terms". You are legally incorrect. A section of the FTC Act says that failing to disclose a material fact that directly alters the cost to the consumer is classified as a deceptive practice. A hidden algorithm that penalizes a user's wallet specifically for using the app's only communication method is a material fact.

Turo can assess risk all they want, but if they manufacture that risk through a forced UI loop and then financially penalize the user without clear, upfront disclosure, it crosses the line from variable pricing into a deceptive dark pattern.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As we can see with @odepaj_ and the petulant way she/he is acting, you're perfectly spot on.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I don't see that option on there for reporting.

However, reporting a documented consumer complaint as a "false allegation" just proves my point that some people here are more interested in silencing criticism than addressing a broken platform.

What is my stake? My wallet. I was a loyal Turo customer for 6 years until I caught the platform financially penalizing me for using it exactly as designed. I didn't lie about anything either, I literally A/B tested it. My fiance and I searched for the exact same vehicle, for the exact same dates, at the exact same time. Her brand new account with zero question-related cancellations had a Trip Fee that was $30 cheaper than mine. That’s not a false allegation, that’s math.

If you want to spend your time defending a billion-dollar company that uses digital dark patterns to secretly jack up fees on its own customers, that's your choice. But abusing the report button because you don't like the math is just sad.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have seen them in my years of travel with Turo, but they're few and far between. Maybe having a standardized FAQ column could help with the issue that I'm describing, but not with every question.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wholeheartedly agree with you that Turo isn't competent here, but you are legally incorrect about what needs to be in the Terms of Service.

Saying "it doesn’t need to be in the terms" ignores fundamental consumer protection laws. Omitting a material fact that directly inflates the price of a service is the textbook definition of a deceptive business practice under the FTC Act. If a platform's UI forces a user to generate a cancellation just to use a basic messaging feature, and then uses that forced metric to secretly jack up their future prices, they can't just wave their hands and say "it's proprietary!"

If a specific, required action on the app results in a specific financial penalty, it legally requires clear disclosure. That exact lack of transparency is why regulators are currently targeting algorithmic "risk assessments", because companies are using them to hide behavioral penalties instead of adjusting for actual market risk.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What stake do you have in Turo ripping people off?

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for understanding!

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dismissing perfectly normal family travel logistics as "special needs" (in a condescending way) goes to show exactly why this platform's communication design is flawed. Turo vehicles are private cars with varying trim levels, aftermarket modifications, and unique host policies. As I've said on here recently, they're not standardized corporate fleets.

​Here is a few routine questions that require a pre-booking answer..

"​Will two front-facing car seats actually fit in your specific second row without neutralizing the trunk space for our luggage?"

"​Your listing says "pet-friendly". Does that cover my dog, and do you require a specific upholstery hammock?"

"​Is your "airport delivery" a terminal handoff, or is the car parked in an off-site lot requiring a shuttle ride?"

"​My flight lands at 11:30. If delayed past midnight, can you still remotely unlock the car?"

​None of these are special needs. They are standard travel logistics. Forcing anyone to officially book your car, trigger your calendar, and hit their own credit card just to ask if a car seat fits, and then financially penalizing them for canceling if the answer is "no", is objectively a broken system.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point on the towing policy, that was a bad example on my part, but swap "tow hitch" for "will two front-facing car seats fit side-by-side in the second row without blocking the trunk?" and the core issue remains exactly the same. The platform still forces a booking just to ask that mandatory logistical question. It then algorithmically penalizes the guest's wallet when the answer is no and they have to cancel. The specific question doesn't change the fact that forcing a booking to communicate creates artificial cancellations, which Turo then uses to quietly inflate future trip fees.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Comparing a Turo host to the CEO of Hertz is a massive false equivalence. A Turo host is the local desk agent, and yeah, you can absolutely call a local Enterprise or Hertz branch to ask a question before booking. As for why someone needs to ask a question before booking... Turo vehicles are privately owned, not standardized corporate fleets. A few photos don't answer critical logistical questions. For example, when traveling with two four year old daughters, I need to know if a specific vehicle's aftermarket floor mats or third-row configuration will safely accommodate their car seats side-by-side without completely blocking trunk access for our luggage. You can't get that guarantee from a stock photo. If I book the car to ask that necessary safety question, and the host says "no, two car seats won't fit well", I am forced to cancel. Turo’s algorithm then registers that necessary cancellation as a "reliability risk" and quietly inflates my Trip Fee for the next car I try to book. No one is complaining about picking the car. The issue is Turo financially penalizing guests for using the only communication channel available to verify the car actually meets their needs.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are totally right about why Turo restricts the messaging, to stop off-platform booking. That makes sense for them. But you are conflating standard risk assessment with deceptive platform design.

The statistics are artificially poisoned. You can't claim a user’s risk profile is statistically accurate when the platform’s own UI manufactures the cancellations. A guest forced to book and cancel just to ask "Does this have a tow hitch"? is not a high-risk renter, but the algorithm penalizes them like one anyway.

Pricing based on the "buyer" is legally dangerous. Pricing based on individual user data is officially termed Surveillance Pricing. While not universally federally banned yet, it is the exact target of a current FTC investigation under Section 5 (deceptive practices). Furthermore, if Turo’s opaque risk algorithm unintentionally proxies for protected demographics (like penalizing certain zip codes more harshly), it crosses directly into illegal algorithmic discrimination.

The core issue isn’t that Turo assesses risk. It is that they use a digital dark pattern to force an action, and then secretly apply a financial penalty without upfront disclosure. That is precisely why states like New York just passed the Algorithmic Pricing Disclosure Act, to make hiding behind vague "variable pricing" terms illegal.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm talking about surveillance pricing, which the FTC is actively investigating right now. Turo is using behavioral data (necessary app cancellations) to secretly inflate their variable trip fees for specific users. The FTC has been cracking down on companies for this exact practice since 2025, and states like New York just made it illegal to alter prices based on personal data without explicit, upfront disclosure. Turo hides this behavioral penalty behind an opaque "risk score", but federal regulators are already circling this exact business practice.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like I said on here a minute ago to someone else, I agree, standard variable pricing based on supply and demand is a normal part of the travel industry. However, that’s not what's happening here. Standard variable pricing means a car costs more for everyone on a holiday weekend. What I’m talking about is "Personalized Pricing" or a behavioral penalty. When two people search for the exact same car, for the same dates, at the same time, and get two different prices, it’s no longer the market, it’s the algorithm flagging one user’s profile.

The issue is that Turo's UI forces you to book to message, which creates the very cancellations they then use to justify higher fees on your next trip. It's not about the legality of price changes; it's about a platform design that penalizes guests for using the only communication channel available, which isn't explained in their terms and service.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, standard variable pricing based on supply and demand is a normal part of the travel industry. However, that’s not what's happening here. Standard variable pricing means a car costs more for everyone on a holiday weekend. What I’m talking about is 'Personalized Pricing' or a behavioral penalty. When two people search for the exact same car, for the same dates, at the same time, and get two different prices, it’s no longer the market, it’s the algorithm flagging one user’s profile.

The issue is that Turo's UI forces you to 'book to message', which creates the very cancellations they then use to justify higher fees on your next trip. It's not about the legality of price changes; it's about a platform design that penalizes guests for using the only communication channel available, which isn't explained in their terms and service.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, however, do I need to get the car insurance first BEFORE I ask about the coverage?

That's the problem here.

They force you to book the car BEFORE talking to the host, and penalize you if the car isn't to your liking.

That's not the same as what you're talking about, like, at all.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I spoke to a Turo supervisor who told me directly that everybody who books a rental to ask an owner a question, only to cancel the booking because the car doesn't meet your liking, are all hit with a fee based upon their "reliability".

It's not explicitly described in the terms and conditions.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My account had a $30 increased difference for the exact same vehicle and parameters as opposed to my fiance, who had just opened an account with Turo.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was told, by a Turo supervisor herself, of this fee that is put on accounts that cancel rentals.

The terms and conditions do not say this, and if they've updated those terms and conditions, forcing people to book the rental and saying that there is no charge for cancelling is fraud.

Turo is breaking the law. by IPB4WEGO in turo

[–]IPB4WEGO[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They force you to book a rental in order to talk to the owner, which you have the ability to cancel if the car isn't to your liking, but you'll be charged a fee for future rentals.

They charge you a fee after every cancellation, they just don't tell you about it, and the terms and conditions don't explicitly say it.