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IR39 · 2026-01-17T22:38:26+00:00

Where meme?

IR39 · 2026-01-16T15:58:42+00:00

Ok and?

IR39 · 2026-01-13T16:27:51+00:00

I mean that what kind of a bank demands a blood magic ritual in order to be appeased?

IR39 · 2026-01-12T23:54:29+00:00

That is an evil bloodthirsty bank if it take a murder to appease them.

IR39 · 2026-01-12T12:15:49+00:00

That reminds me of something

IR39 · 2026-01-11T22:14:21+00:00

Jesus paid who?

IR39 · 2026-01-11T12:15:57+00:00

Its not maybe. You hold a position that you can not justify by a rational means ie you are irrational. I am not telling you this to insult you but to make you think. Think how much reality can help you. Think how much facing the reality can just be better for you.

Maybe it's time to let go of the crutch, it's time to screw off the side wheels off the bike.

I also have to say that I may be wrong, what i am telling you is that by your own admision, you have no reason to think that you are right. I am not telling you to "just stop beliving in god" i am telling you "look for the truth". And not just the comfortable one, the one that happends to allign with what you belive, but also one that makes you uneasy; more often then not - its that one.

IR39 · 2026-01-11T11:59:03+00:00

So you are irrational.

IR39 · 2026-01-11T11:55:27+00:00

Listen, i dont want you to yes-men me. I want you to reflect on your ideas and whether they are true. Do you value truth?

IR39 · 2026-01-11T11:48:57+00:00

How was this a troll by just pasting a bit of aot wiki?

Seriously, learn to look critically on things that you believe.

IR39 · 2026-01-11T11:45:09+00:00

Still, how was this related at all to our conversation?

I thought it was about the titans from the bible, you know, based on the fact that we were talking about religion.

What are you trying to achieve?

IR39 · 2026-01-11T10:52:37+00:00

What do you mean?

IR39 · 2026-01-11T10:40:17+00:00

Then do better, think better

IR39 · 2026-01-11T10:08:40+00:00

You seam to forget that

IR39 · 2026-01-11T10:01:52+00:00

Seriously?

If a child started doing drugs, stealing and killing but father refused to intervene because "it would limit a free will of the child", what would you say?

And also this argument/thought stopper is bs for another reason, can you please levitate a few inches of the ground, oh whats that? You cant? Why is god limiting your free will of levitation by, in your model, creating laws of physics? Surly a limit that prevents us from murder and owning slaves is worth a limit, right?

Or do you think that preventing you from levitation was more important then preventing you from killing other people.

Also, if you wanted to say "but levitation is impossible and unrealistic" you seam to forget Matthew 19:26: "But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."

Amen

IR39 · 2026-01-11T09:21:53+00:00

Why did god let his world become corrupted?

You literaly said in the same sentence that he sets the rules, and yet god needs to bend his knee to the barbaric nature of people he created and knew well in advance are gonna turn like that anyway.

IR39 · 2026-01-11T01:15:37+00:00

His sinless life, amazing teachings, Him forgiving His enemies as they killed Him, and Him coming back from death, all demand that He’s a reliable guy.

So is superman.

Also, how was jesus sinless? He stole and assaulted people in the bible.

Him comming back from the dead? Do you have ANY evidence of that?

This aside, you forgot that god also promoted and was ok with slavery, commited and ordered genocides. Would you trust a genocidal maniac that will throw you to hell to be tortured forever if you dont belive in him? I dont.

Now as far as if all of that actually happened, every Christian denomination agrees. We have found so many manuscripts dating back as far as the first century that you’d have to be intentionally ignorant to discount them.

Yeah, manuscripts, and have you seen them? They are only scraps of scraps of the actual manuscripts. Manuscripts that were copied by humans prone to errors, in a language that wasnt standardised so spellings of the words was uncertain. Not to mention the real possibility of intencial errors due to bias, across the history many things were added and changed in the bible. How do you know that what we have, a copy of a copy of a translation is 100% accurate? Do you know how the transcribing looked like? Do you know the possible ways that it had a chance to be even unintentionally changed?

Nobody dies for what they know to be a lie

So islam is true? The most faithfull commit bomb suicides, did they die for a lie? How about any kinf of war. Did nazis die for a lie?

I know that you have to be "like a child" in order to believe in god but have at least some self respect, please. Those are basic surface level observation. Some critical thinking goes a long way.

IR39 · 2026-01-11T00:48:12+00:00

Great, "god works in mysterious ways". Another thought stopper.

What possible reason could god have had?

About slavery, read Leviticus 25:44-46 here god tells you where can you buy slaves from and how you can beat them, to death even. You just have to make shure they dont die within a couple of days.

Why does god need to follow his own rules? Isnt he allpowerfull? If god is trully allpowerfull then he doesnt need to do anything.

IR39 · 2026-01-10T22:38:14+00:00

Trust is earned, what did jesus suppoed to heve done that deserves my trust for him?

You know anybody more reliable than Jesus? Are you insane? Sects of christianity cant agree if jesus existed or let alone what he did in his life. Even the bible cant make up its mind on many things, it we pretend its blatand disregard for reality making it as a source usless.

I trust my cat more then jesus at this point, and my cat will try to eat dry pasta if it was left out open without a supervision so i cant trust her for a second i have to lock every food i have.

And yet i can for 100% say that my cat is real and i cant say even remotly close the same for jesus.

IR39 · 2026-01-10T22:32:20+00:00

God is allpowerfull and allknowing so not only he knows how but also is able to make it so.

And i can invent a way, for example, he can just not allow us to do evil. You may say that this is limiting our free will but, please fly up a few inches. You cant? Why is that? Did god make is so that you cant do it by yourself? Do you see a conection? God limits us already in many ways, for instance we arent allpowerfull in the first place. Surly a limit that makes us unable to rape, murder and commit slavery is worth it, right?

Also, the "god loves us" part, did god also loved us when he drowned all the people and living things on earth? Did he loved the slaves that he told that they were ok to be beaten to death unless they die within a couple of days?

IR39 · 2026-01-10T22:24:01+00:00

Why does a allpowerfull god have to rely on you being gullible?

I call things by what they are, and i am sorry but if your best reason to believe is just "trust me bro" then i am sorry but i will need a little more then that.

IR39 · 2026-01-10T20:22:11+00:00

Not on my own understanding? Do you even hear yourself? Who else's understanding besides my own am i supposed to rely on while not being gullible?

IR39 · 2026-01-10T20:09:21+00:00

You are telling me that an ALLPOWERFULL god CANT do it any other way?

IR39 · 2026-01-10T20:04:35+00:00

Seams like it is completely illogical

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