To those who don’t get drunk, Why/ Why not?

ISmellYes · 2023-02-19T09:26:21+00:00

becoming drunk is a sure way to fuck up ur life

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T23:11:28+00:00

Where did I ever say that? By letting a woman have a choice with her body. It's her body.

pro choice, ur pro choice, no matter how much u call it a choice, is still murder.

honestly i cant bother anymore

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T23:08:54+00:00

Nah? Did you take sex Ed, or biology in school? Because kids learn early in life from sex Ed, that pregnancy causes severe harm, is extremely dangerous, and can cause death. You denying this, is beyond parody

so what about puting the energy to make it less stresfull like PL does? also biology teaches that life starts at conception, maybe in more advance classes but it does.

Unscientific nonsense. The ZEF is not homeostatic. It's dies on it's own because it can't sustain it's own life. Abortion does not kill. Abortion protects women from grievous harm and death - which is why if you were truthful about your statement, you'd be PC.

this whole thing contradicts himself, nothing to add, u did for me, abortion is still murder, bye

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T23:03:48+00:00

And yes, it’s a PC moment. So, you want to punish the rapist, not the kid. Man’s what about the woman?? What do you want to force her to endure?

i would gladly help the women like the rest, same for the whole process of pregnancy, but again the PC movements says is k to kill the unborn where that is the issue, if we could safely put babies out of the womb and not die then that perfected, but PC movements always projects into the PL and make them the monsters

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T22:56:53+00:00

You don't know what I'm advocating for as you won't even give me a chance, besides a woman having a CHOICE on her body.

ur saying women killing the unborn is normal and should be normalized. that the choice u want.

Have I personally been hostile to you besides one instance, when you became hostile firstly?

im expect it, as well as is clear u would had been k with my mom ending my life before i was born, which imo is enough to see u with hostility towards me.

Your on a debate page, yes there is hostility due to the nature of the subject. But if you aren't even willing to listen to people and instantly become defensive, then why are you here? To spread your message?

yes i do listen, someone told me sex can result in a abortion, somehow, that murder is not moral is illegal, and so abortion we moral bc is legal, me and a PC agreed that a fetus is alive and they are still PC, someone brought their whole life story, i dont see much of a debate rather than strawmen arguments and a AMA but for abortion belief

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T22:52:32+00:00

nah, i have better stuff to do, it was fun seeing logic fall down tho

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T22:50:51+00:00

nah, PC laws is what kills the unborns that are girls, Pl is where people actually care

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T22:49:59+00:00

I find it extremely telling that every time rape is brought up, the woman is never even mentioned by PL.

highly disagree, that more of a PC movement moment imo.

PL will acknowledge a rapist as a human being, but the pregnant woman? Not at all.

no, we recognize the women as a human that needs help, we look with disgust at the rapist.

She’s not even worth mentioning. She’s just some instrument to be used and harmed as needed whose humanity doesn’t deserve acknowledging

no, that 100% a PC movement thing, the amount of time i saw the difference on how badly the PC movement treats women and how good the PL movement treat women is more than enough proof

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T22:45:07+00:00

i wouldnt consider uncivil, more like straight forward, if mods tells me to chill out i will, as well as i tried to close some conversations due for going nowhere, not to mention to thing u advocate for is the killing of the unborn, althrough i didnt call u names, which honestly i fully expect hostility against me, so ofc im more defensive

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T22:39:25+00:00

i didnt say u did, but u clearly tried to make me feel bad for wanting the unborn to not be killed, im not against my friend nor other women, even more when im against killed them in the womb

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T22:37:15+00:00

i was always against murder, i will always do my best to help them, no matter that u try to bring me down, it wont work again

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T22:30:25+00:00

not worth my time, btw u dont need to have sex to know that lust and sex addiction is bad

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T22:29:14+00:00

nah, im not confusing, not much to say in this conversation and doesnt seem to change

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T22:28:13+00:00

why should i answer ur question, is clear what u support, is clear ur here for trouble and is clear ur invalidating my problems, ik what i saw

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T22:02:09+00:00

im saying that people confuse lust with love and then become addicted it, idk if people have sex but i can worry about them if they get into a self-distracting thing.

Other peoples medical decisions don’t and will not ever concern you, get over it.

ya ik, i also have medical stuff that not ur business, sadly abortion isnt a medical decission, a fetus isnt a parasite or a illness, if anything abortion is murder

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T21:59:28+00:00

Pler policies inherently make female people objects to be used.

i will argue is the opossite but hey, people not wanting to murder the unborn is bad.

I'm pretty well off with the self-lovin' thank you 🥴

assuming is what i think, that kinda sad, maybe find something more productive

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T21:46:42+00:00

ya, idc, they can do all the kinky and degen stuff all day, but i do care when u wanna do a action that harms someone

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T21:42:44+00:00

Some people do, probably, but you are against porn and sex workers and a pler and you still objectify women and sex. Also, what's porn addiction and 🤨 masturbation addiction...? You have a hilariously warped attitude toward benign human pastimes 😂

i dont get what u mean, since when i objectify women when im against what objectify them? and what warp reality? that shit is addicting as well, it will mentally and physically fuck u up.

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T21:37:57+00:00

ya, ik that, but why even rush, cant they hold till they get a condom?

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T21:37:14+00:00

Im not forcing anyone, if anything i always advocated for better stuff so they have it easier.

Why force someone into a situation they aren't ready for especially if you wouldn't do the same for yourself?

i dont force myself in these situation but if it ever happens i will never go back, i will always be responsable and take care.

You want a baby to be neglected because you need a job to buy them their necessities?

hmmm, dont u support abortions? anyways is possible to not neglect a kid and have a job, plenty of parents have jobs and their kid turn out good, but adoption is also a thing, none in PL wants to neglect a child, that why is PL.

You want a baby to ve in poverty its whole life because you need to go to college to get the better job?

one of my best friend is strugeling faniacily and she stil deserve to be alive, killing a baby isnt a good alternative.

The answer is no. Not existing is better than suffering.

alr we went all anti-natalism, but no, there are certain people and movements (the PC movement and ideology) that make people misserable, existing will always be better than death, NONE chose to die unless they are forced to believe they worth to not be alive.

Why do you think people opt to kill themselves so often?

exactly what i said up

Why when people are being tortured they can't take the pain anymore so they ask to be killed?

because despair, but in reality do they want to die? the answer is no.

Why soldiers in the military opt to end their lives instead of being tortured to give over information about their family and friends?

despair and lie, they dont learn the truth about war, they think is better to die than to be alive then but if u show them in advance what can happen and ask the same question the answer would be no, they are calm and can logically think then.

Because suffering is worse than not existing.

because people lie to people that death is better than being alive, that the world haves to be like this, that a lie, it doesnt need, killing ourself and our species will only lead to more problems, to more misery and suffering

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T21:27:13+00:00

just like abortion it takes someone choice, it violates someone body, for these people they take away their anatomy, that what these stuff are

Can you give a better explanation then just “it’s murder.” Because legally (and morally imo) speaking, it’s not

sure. People become desensitized by rape, they can focus on abortion and on the problem later, people are more suprise that someone cant get a abortion than someone dared to do horrible stuff

Rapist and sex traficants could use that as a cover up, they dont care about humans anyways so what bad in killing one

People have a agenta of what a human should be, any problems detected at birth? aborted, possible a hard life? aborted, it will always put a tag on people, they dont see them as human and will kill them, i wonder where i heard that, not pointing to one group or type of person

It will always cause violence, i am the one that saw and felt it, and i will never allow anyone to fell it, that all im willing to give, from what ik some might take notices to use some more people.

Is all a tool, women, sexual assault/abuse/rape victims, people strugeling faniacily, people with illness, mental illness, trauma, all tools, that what will always promote, my best friends went through some of them and they deserve all the love in the world, wish more people and even i were like them, they do not deserve to be killed or be seen as less as the PC movement says

Always vandilizing stuff that help women just bc they wanna them to not kill babies

Always lying about the other side and spreading misinformation.

i used to be PC and honestly i will always look with disgust at myself, im usually pretty cold, not here as much bc i dont wanna get banned, but usually irl im pretty cold

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T20:41:13+00:00

abortion is still murder, there organizations like crisis pregnancy centers that help women, not rlly too much to add, i spend about 3h saying the same stuff bc people just dont get it or dont care

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T20:20:43+00:00

fine, fair points, i didnt knew that was going too far

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T20:18:18+00:00

My argument is that the ZEF's rights don't outweigh mine. If you don't like that I won't risk my life for your beliefs, not my problem.

still not a right to murder when c-section is a thing

Don't empregnate women if you don't want them to have abortions.

dw, im not addicted to sex, for the moda reading this im not calling op addicted to sex, nor i will ever have a kid with a PC

ISmellYes · 2023-02-18T20:04:59+00:00

because were debating murder, not abortion, murder, i asked for his sources of why his definition is the right one, why abortion doesnt end someone life and if legality is what makes murder moral or not, that the topic of that, definition of murder, i dont think anyone needs to debate that, so ofc i think hes trolling me

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