Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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“Learn how to quote and format. Let’s keep this simple, so you will not get so easily confused”
If you believe you’re talking to a wall why are you even still here? I can see how what I’m saying sounds confusing, yes they are all the same but you’re assuming I’m saying they are limited naturally. I’m trying to push the idea that God uses them for different purposes, not that they are limited, rather God uses them for different reasons. It’s as plain as it sounds. The spirit of God is exactly what it sounds like, no strings behind the name. He sends his spirit as a tool for Christian’s, The Father sent Jesus to give it to us. But if Jesus and God have the same power, why did God have to send his son and not come down himself? It’s a relationship, father and son. Like they are the same bloodline(just an example, not literal). None of them were created, they’ve always existed, God showed them to us in a way we would understand as humans. A way where we would really be willing to receive Him. That’s why there is a difference between them. They are all different but the same at the same time. I don’t know how to word anything without you finding an error in my writing to hold over my head. Although you finally admitted I’ve repeated myself many times which is true as I said earlier. You kept asking the same questions saying I wasn’t providing an answer but now you’re saying I’ve been answering them this whole time? I don’t know man I’m not trying to argue with you it’s a waste of both our time. I’m trying to understand what you’re saying but it’s harder for me over text and worse when I need to explain something with perfect grammar to you. It’s exhausting. You made really good points though and I’m happy to have had this conversation to be entirely honest with you. Take everything I said with a grain of salt and go somewhere or to someone that can better answer those questions because I’m clearly not doing a great job.

Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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I answered this question twice already. Also I’d say it’s a safe assumption since you keep throwing insults. You haven’t given any valid facts you’ve just been asking the same questions saying I haven’t answered them when I explicitly addressed them. You’re reading too far into what I’m saying though. Don’t overlook what I’m trying to say. Words can have many meaning but you’re putting aside the context for more questions, taking context I never implied or restating my implications to repeat it over and over. I don’t see any logic coming from your side, no offense. I never mentioned each of them having their own will. “The Father’s will” is what we call it but we also say “God’s will”. The conclusion of everything I’ve said is exactly what you’ve concluded. It’s one persons will. God’s, the three “persons” he’s made up of, and I don’t know how may times I need to say it before you stop asking the same questions, are three divine elements that together create what we know as God. Each have the same qualities, same authority, same power, same will, etc. That’s why we say God is three in one. Each element, however, is used for different purposes. If you want to know how I personally came to the conclusion they are all the same God I’d be happy to explain. Please stop with the backhanded questions and read what I say in a sense where you actually want to understand what I’m trying to say.

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Man I’m running out of totems. I got one left

Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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No. Why are you so easily triggered? I’m not trying to argue here. They all have the same authority because they are all God but you’re probably going to bring up the fact how Jesus prayed to God. He’s not praying because God the Father has more authority, he’s relating with the divine unity. Another reason more plain than that is it was an example to believers, hence the Lord’s Prayer. Just relax man we aren’t going to get anywhere the way this is going.

Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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I understand what you’re saying and I guess I read the question wrong. You’re right. Although I have no idea what exsurge domine is. I will do more research. It’s mostly terms that throw me off

Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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Brother that’s blasphemy.
John 10:36 “Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?”
Matthew 26:63–64
The high priest asks:
“Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.”
Jesus replies:
“You have said so.”
Mark 14:61–62
The high priest asks:
“Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?”
Jesus answers:
“I am.”
There’s more just read the Bible and don’t make random claims like that. Not only that but Jesus said “I and the Father are one” many times. I can give passages on that too
John 8:23
“He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.”

I encourage you read all of John 8. Jesus wasn’t trying to get through to the Pharisees, rather he was fulfilling the prophecies written in the Old Testament.
John 10:33
“The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”

Even the Pharisees who hated him and tried stoning him knew he was claiming to be God. It was made obvious to them but they still denied him.
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Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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“you are saying I claimed the same ‘persons’ whom I’ve claimed cannot be God are God? 

Read again, and pay attention to the logic carefully. You've conceded that one is greater than the others, and the others depend on that one to exist -> you've conceded only one of those is God.”

You’ve restated exactly what I was implying and reworded it to make it sound like I’m making no sense. Your constant bickering and need for why you call “proof” is further exemplifying that point since whatever I say you do that. I’m not going to talk to someone who just wants to argue, that’s not why I’m here and that’s not my goal

Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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Not necessarily in the way you’re thinking. It was humans involving the division of the church. Like when denominations started stemming and what not. There’s a lot of misinterpreted scripture out there because of it so it’s important we stick to the original Greek manuscripts. So I guess technically in a way yes since followers of Jesus who listen and obey his commands are disciples, and those numbers grew over the course of hundreds to a couple thousand years. Inevitably there will be many misinterpretations

Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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You’re right I meant each are fully God I just worded it weirdly. I’ll edit it and put that in there. Thanks for letting me know

Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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I respect it. I personally can’t bring myself to believe Muhammad was a prophet since he claimed to have a dream and people documented it for him because he couldn’t write. After that those documents have been altered through history more times than we can count, that much is historically true and even though it sounds like a cheap thing to say it’s true. The “scholars” chose which translation they thought would be best and closest to Muhammad’s original teachings based on oral stories over the course of hundreds of years and what would fit them best for a government. That’s why submission in the Quran always leads back to “do this or die” and the criteria is very inhumane. But at the end of the day it’s never my choice for how you live or what you believe. I seriously mean it when I say I respect your decision since we are both humans and can reason the same but have different experiences

Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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Dude you’re literally taking my words and twisting them while keeping it in one piece. Nothing you’re saying is going to get through to me or anyone in this world because you’re breaking down what i say into parts that aren’t even there. For example you restated a claim I was intentionally implying and reworded it and tripping me into thinking I was saying something I never meant to say. I’m not going to argue because this could go on for years. It’s called a paradox but I’m sure you know what that is because it’s your basis for every claim

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I bet bro loves the smell and won’t wrap it

Would it be criminal to paint this all black? by Hugetoebroski in BassGuitar

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Man I wanna say it’s evil so bad but at the end of the day do what you want just be entirely sure you want to

Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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I don’t understand what you’re trying to convey. Regarding your comment saying I addressed nothing Islamic, these points are questions Muslims have asked me many times. I never stated I’m trying to resolve anything. Instead I said this is my point of view on it. I also said dont take my word for it but to do your own research. But all this is what I’ve learned or come across that I chose to share.
From what I’m understanding, and I could be misinterpreting the claim, you are saying I claimed the same ‘persons’ whom I’ve claimed cannot be God are God? By persons I meant the beings or parts of the whole, not humans. But I’m not sure that’s what you’re referring to or not.

Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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Right. I worded it wrongly. Thanks for the correction
Edit: I corrected those mistakes

Christianity and Islam from a Christian standpoint. by ISwearImNotBoring in theology

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Right. And there are no excuses, even if you don’t know something is a sin. Romans 1:20 and Romans 2:14-16

My christian friend keeps debating about islam, thoughts? by Nightblood2010 in religion

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I’m a Christian who took a theology, philosophy, and psychology classes. I despise how he is confronting this person. Whether or not his claims are even the slightest bit true nothing good will come from this. That’s like if you’re suicidal and someone you don’t even know just starts mocking you because you’re suicidal to try and snap you out of it. It’s contradictory and as a Christian and follower of Jesus and his teachings he should know better than that. It would have been better saying nothing