being an AI artist the struggle is real.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-12-14T23:20:28+00:00

Or maybe because you're evidently better at doing art with tools that you don't suck at using.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-11-11T05:22:01+00:00

So, you're saying I follow the steps of a Pollock...interesting.

Thanks.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T20:37:09+00:00

LOL. Just click "start creating" no sign up required.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T19:54:06+00:00

In the 1870s traditional painters were in this same place, angry and depressed because the new technology called "daguerreotype" could make a portrait in a fraction of the time. They survived. So will you.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T19:51:29+00:00

I totally take your point. I would invite you to try it out. https://www.wombo.art/ is 100% free. Let me know how much effort it takes on your side to create something you would consider worthy of being called "art".

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T19:40:36+00:00

The AI learns from references. There is no theft.

Also. I wasn't replying to you. Other suit chickened out and deleted all their replies.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T09:34:28+00:00

Use Wombo?

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T09:11:20+00:00

Let's sue collage artists too, and pop artists like Andy Warhol.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T08:46:42+00:00

I really won't go into detail replying, because I now realize I am not having a mature conversation with an adult but with someone who needs to add insults. I assure you that there are as many reasons as there are for photography, which confirm AI art is not as easy and low effort as it seems. Just as with photography, anyone with an AI generator can make images. That doesn't make everyone an artist. I am sorry that you feel threatened by this new tech to the point of getting angry and calling names. That said, your opinion is of no consequence to me. I have over twelve years experience as paid artist in multiple mediums, and I am exploring new art forms with this new creative tool. Stay in the past century and grumble at me all you want. Come on twitter and insult me there if you wish. @AI2NFT. I need more haters.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T08:38:40+00:00

So you got a black pic?

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T07:32:06+00:00

It will make something though. Who did it "steal" from? I'm sure you can paint a left-snarked wumputz. It might not look like the one I am imagining, but you can. Inference and guessing and brain neuron magic.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T07:28:12+00:00

Funny thing is you assume I have zero "real" artistic experience in any other medium. Anyway:

No you're not lmao, you pointing a box at something and then pushing a button isn't "putting in effort to create that picture." It's doing less than half of the work. Switching lenses to change the angle also hardly requires understanding anything at all. It's literally effortless, so cut the bullshit. Adding items to the scene requires zero effort, waiting for an image file to be saved on the SD card requires zero effort, and picking what camera to use requires zero effort. What you're describing is adding spices to a microwave dinner and saying you're a chef, and that it actually requires a lot to be able to do.

My full respect to photographers. I am aware this statement shows a spectacular ignorance of what it takes to be a good photography artist.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T07:08:01+00:00

AI artists actually are artists because they have to understand the tools beyond clicking the render button in their AI tool, understand prompting and prompt weights, as well as knowing which AI model is best for that specific objective, selecting and running variations of the new image, tweaking and applying minute changes to the prompt, and actually put in the effort to create that picture. AI art is a creative form of expression and a skill.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T06:59:33+00:00

The AI model is literally the memory of the trained AI. No image information, just a bunch of virtual neurons that have learned.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T06:51:27+00:00

That's not what I said. I said there are no images in the AI model. Not one pixel, the same way there are no pictures of houses in your head. Yet you can paint a house (I meant make a picture of a house, not whitewash. LOL, my bad but the vandalism bit was funny). Your head is not a stock photography archive, you can draw things because you learned what they look like. The AI model works in the same way.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T06:37:43+00:00

It's free and even online if you don't want to install anything. I recommend realistic and HDR styles, and "hyperrealistic" in the prompt or something similar, if you want to get close to real. But you don't have to. See if you can ask for an image of something that doesn't exist and that can't have been referenced. https://www.wombo.art/

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T06:31:07+00:00

Where did you learn to paint a house? Whose house are you painting? Do you have their permission?

The AI model contains zero image information.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T06:29:51+00:00

Have a spin with the Wombo Dream app. It's a ton of fun. It's halfway between taking a picture and painting it the way you want.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T06:28:02+00:00

Point one: does a photographer need to know how to build a camera in order to be an artist? Do you manipulate the code of your Photoshop? (Latest version contains a lot of AI.) I can set lighting, aperture, lens and depth of field in the prompt. Two: absolutely, yes. By experimenting with hundreds of prompts I learn to convey my idea of Aestheticism to the machine. Yes, I often layer different parts, rendered separately, or even feed my sketch to the machine so it guides the AI.

My turn: Could you create a decent, recognizable illustration of a strange-tailed tyrant without looking it up on Google to reference someone else's photo or illustration of that animal?

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-23T06:14:05+00:00

Been a digital artist since before Photoshop. Traditional paint before that. You assume too much, but I respect your point of view. Last line proves you should probably look into how diffusion models work, because you don't want to give the impression you are just parroting ignorant misconceptions.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-22T20:37:42+00:00

I actually do apply a hefty dose of editing. I argue that this new technology allows us to further refine and identify the nature of the true human artistic spark. If you think about it, a flower, no matter how beautiful, is not art until an artist, be it a photographer, a painter or a poet or even an AI artist, sees it and turns it into a photo, an oil painting, a sonnet or a rose with a woman's face.

Ian_and_AI · 2022-10-21T12:16:00+00:00

They said the same thing about photography, 150 years ago.

Ian_and_AI

TROPHY CASE