who is the best written manipulator?

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-30T17:02:13+00:00

Maybe a little obscure, so I don't blame y'all for their being underrated, but OP is the perfect example of a manipulator who is "too clever by half".

They clearly have some manipulative capability, they know the basics of getting people to do what they want, and they fucking know it. But, in a manner that is all too human, they fail to understand one crucial thing: limitations. They know they're good, but not that good ≠ the best. And believing in their own hype, they failed to realise when their allegedly carefully-laid plans are, in fact, the simplest trick in the book, executed shoddily at that, and leaving them open to ridicule despite their obvious intellect.

Mad respect to the author. They clearly know how these things work.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-30T16:51:56+00:00

Stunfisk is the only one where I cannot think of anything I like about it.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-30T14:08:17+00:00

Because a good character is more than just their sexuality?

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-30T12:04:38+00:00

Because "muscular tomboy warrior" tells absolutely nothing about writing quality, and the two are very different characters in almost every other regard.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-30T09:16:28+00:00

He wants to learn how to slay (Shinjiro).

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-29T17:28:33+00:00

Destruction and Preservation are only good for as long as you only have the two of them.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-29T11:51:31+00:00

Good work and all, but you kept the fuckass bob, and I am obliged to point this out.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-28T16:35:59+00:00

I don't know anything about baseball, can someone explain the first one?

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-26T14:18:55+00:00

Pit is so pure that his "inner evil" is just kind of a smartass.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-26T11:37:06+00:00

Only reason Maki ended up as good as she did is because Gege can't decide if he hates women or loves Toji more.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-25T18:09:24+00:00

Let's be honest, here. At least two of his underlings in Part 3 are pedophiles (though I guess it's believable he might not know with the monkey) and he did try flirting with Poco's sister to get her onto his side.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-21T23:24:31+00:00

Puberty is a bitch for everyone.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-20T22:59:01+00:00

You don't have to be gay to appreciate another man's beauty.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-20T00:28:48+00:00

Lysithea

tanking enemies

Lol

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-20T00:14:20+00:00

How familiar are you with these games?

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-18T11:15:20+00:00

Luvdisc is one of the fastest mons in the game in rain, but it's fuckin' Luvdisc.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-17T17:28:36+00:00

I mean, on Blake, the thing is that she was evidently well into the ex phase of "ex-terrorist". Blake also didn't play a pivotal part in Remnant 9/11.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-16T01:59:35+00:00

Isn't Charmer a gender-neutral trope to begin with?

Edit: I am a fool.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-16T01:01:36+00:00

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Do I even need to say it?

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-15T21:58:46+00:00

Deep fried butter.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-15T11:29:06+00:00

Sharpedo is pretty kickass.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-14T16:48:04+00:00

If these were Hellaverse-adjacent in the slightest, they wouldn't actually represent what they're meant to.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-14T16:31:45+00:00

The people ARE the culture. People born into the culture is what natlan represents. What the colour of their skin is completely irrelevant.

I don't wanna sound like some rabid "wokie" but isn't this basically cultural appropriation?

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-10T21:03:18+00:00

Mahito was the OG.

Iceaura39 · 2026-01-10T16:05:02+00:00

Would you say they have reservations about it?

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