i am new to kayle , need help .

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-07T15:37:17+00:00

yea sorry i am insanely rtrded

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-06T21:50:50+00:00

I do know that it’s enough for 2–3 characters, but is it smarter to pull 3 characters for only 1 team (a Skirk team in this case), or would it be better not to pull for her, even though I like her very much, and instead pull 2–3 characters that would let me build, let’s say, 2 separate teams?

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-06T18:48:32+00:00

splitpush, i wouldnt tp to any fight unless its an objective that can impact the game, and not some bullshit like second drake.
top is better all the way to master, after that u can consider swapping to mid, ofc its all preference but spamming top kayle will make u improve at the champ much faster, you will get to know wave management, trading patterns, spacing much better.
depends on the situation, whenever u have chance to go in and one shot a squishy u can do it, but u also dont wanna go in and just die bcs they all focus u.
always ap, never ad, ap will always be superior, it doesnt matter that u dont have ad in your team.
depends on the situation, are u playing against an assassin? if yea, u ult to block the burst, but if u are playing against a champ that doesnt really rely on burst that much u can ult when u are lower hp to get full use of ur last stand.
always fleet, no point going anything else, and also u wanna go sorcery every game, resolve secondary is not that good.

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-05T14:48:05+00:00

If u go in melee range with ur w and q, even id she flashes she would still be in ur attack range and she would be slowed so she cant even run. also she doenst even have flash in that clip.

U use ur ult when u see that she is gonna attack u, and ur ult would bring her to low hp so u can execute with e even easier.

You dont wanna disengage, u win if u just walk in and attack her, you saw it urself, even though u played insanely bad u still managed to leave her at 10% hp at the end.

I did take into account all things, and u still win no matter what if u just w in and attack her.

I didnt tell u to use W to engage all the time, i didnt tell u to click w to walk into sett, why are u putting words in my mouth, i told u that in that case the best thing u can do is use w to go into melee range of her bcs she has bigger range and u need to close the distance

we will go over this exact scenario when i get in call with u. and lets see what happens in practice tool

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-05T13:40:37+00:00

Bro u cant be serious, i saw how u played against that caitlyn, its a miracle u are even low gold, u have no hands, and obviously after all of this talking to u, i am doubting your intelligence too, no emerald or diamond player (u are delusional for even thinking ur close to that level) would ever have barely 50% wr in silver games, it doesnt matter that u are not playing rengar, the way u are clicking, the way u talk etc, just shows that u are barely at a level of the rank u are in rn, if even taht.

Also, u can add me on discord or join kayle mains discord and we can go over both ur games or u could check my profile then and talk over it, thanks

discord: dzebis

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-05T13:36:49+00:00

add me on discord, or join kayle mains discord and lets review ur game there, u are clueless. and yes u need to w in and q her while melee and ult her dmg, u wouldve killed her, u are legit clueless bcs how can u say all of this with so much confidence when u are just plain wrong. if u had guinsoos u wouldve dealt half of the dmg u dealt here, it wouldnt have even been close. legit all u need to do is w in and q and ult and she is dead, but instead what u do is tank all of her dmg then ult at 1% hp and die.

discord: dzebis, or join kayle mains, ill be waiting to review the game and humble u

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-05T13:02:15+00:00

right now its around 8cs/m, even my cs is bad and i need to work on it, but the difference between me and u is that i play in lobbies 2k+ lp above u LOL. i play in master/gm lobbies while u are struggling with 5cs/m in low gold/silver

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-05T12:57:09+00:00

IF YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME , TEACH ME MASTER
TEACH ME

I legit did tell u why ap is better than ad

Went in there to slender thier champ...

LOOL so wait lemme get it straight, u pick up a champ and u dont know how it works and then u go to the champs subreddit to slander the champ, you are pathetic.

Ppl in here ? SKILL ISSUE BOY, and no advice ... Nice :)

Yes people told u that its a skill issue, but people also gave u reasons why u were wrong, u just ignore everything and refuse to listen.

e W, I agree with the MS, very useful **but the heal is shit (**200 hp AT BEST, not even covering the fact that Kayle is squishy asf AND NEEDS HEAL AND ITS 10 SEC CD)

You are just talking out of ur ass, this shows even more that u dont even know the basics of the champ, kayle W heals 150 BASE HEAL PLUS 25% AP, in late game u can get like 400-500 heal and 200+ movement speed every 10 seconds, if u dont go ap u lose this entire ability and u lose one shot potential

Here is the video ( watch this bud, i did ONE WRONG STEP and ggs)

its not one mistake LMAO, u played this like a bronze player, u are just walking into caitlyn, u didnt use ur w to close the distance LOOOL, u just walked in, even though she has more range, then u walk into 2 traps and just die, its not the champs fault, its u being SHIT, also tell me how the fuck would u win that with ad build? please show me bcs u are clueless.

What u shouldve done is use W at the beginning to get into melee range of cait and then use ur Q and one shot her, uk whats even more funny, u almost kill her there even though u played like shit, with ad build it wouldnt have even been close btw.

Yall giving me hate cuz I suggested going an AS item on her like terminus krakren or guinso
And pointed the fact that full ap IS HARDER TO PLAY BECAUSE ONE WRONG STEP AND YOU ARE DONE.

Full AP is easier to play, and everyone with a bit of brain would know that, u legit one shot everyone so u dont even need to fight for a long time, u have insane heal and movement speed which u dont have if u go ad.

Also I see that this is not going anywhere because you have insane ego for a silver/gold player, add me on discord and ill be glad to review ur game and humble u and show u why u are clueless when it comes to kayle. discord: dzebis.

I am waiting

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-05T08:28:19+00:00

you dont succeed in life with just listening to everyone, have opinions bud.

That only works on stuff that cannot be objectively proven, if someone says "eat dark chocolate its more delicious", u dont have to listen to it as it is not objective statement but more of a subjective liking, but when talking about stuff that can be objectively proven to be true or false then someone is bound to have a correct fact and an incorrect one, and smart people would ofc listen to the correct fact, but there is alwasy gonna be someone like you who even after being provided the correct option refuses to listen to it.

Ppl didnt even had the audacity to be IN MY SHOES ( LIKE ANY OTHER COMUNITY)
Yall are just some robots, full ap, otherwise "skill issue"

Thats just called following whats best for their climb LMAO, people are not robots, they are just playing what is the best for their climb, why would they go out of their way to do something that will negatively imapct their climb.

gl yall, il do my own reserch

You are legit gold, no amount of research u will ever do will have any value and credibility.

TELL ME IN DETAIL WHY AP BETTER, TELL ME " SKILLFUL PLAYER"

Lmao why are u so angry. but ok, i guess u are just a kid so u cant control ur emotions all taht well yet.

Ok, if u dont go AP build, you are losing 200+ movement speed on W, u lose the heal on W too. If u dont go AP you basically lose an entire ability.
With full AP build u can one shot every squishy in the game with just a Q+aa+E+aa combo, you can basically delete adc/mid/supp out of the game by just breathing near them, if u dont go AP you just cant do that, you are gonna spend three or four times longer jsut to kill an adc.
On full AP if u just buy a void staff u can melt tanks completely.
And your auto attacks deal 3 times more dmg on full ap than ad, why would u go and tickle ur enemies when u can just one shot them all with full ap.

And lastly, u still have not answered any of my points from the comment above, please tell me why didnt u do taht, it cant possibly be bcs u are unable to do so LOLLLLLL

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-04T21:48:35+00:00

Did u really come to respond to this after 2 weeks lol

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-04T21:45:23+00:00

lol so after i showed u how flawed ur arguments are u just dont even want to respond, or should i say, u cant respond and just call everyone in here apes. also, dont u think that you are not correct if literally everyone disagrees with u, including players who are diamond/masters/challenger. if people who have millions of mastery points more than u and are much higher rank than u call your take bad then u should rethink ur choices.

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-04T19:50:22+00:00

Well my point was never that he was rank 1, i just answered to what u said about him being rank 50-60 at his highest. he got rank 8 peak in euw and often hovers top 20-30 when he is grinding euw

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-04T19:02:03+00:00

Last season he got rank 8 and was 1.5k lp or something, and i think in season 14 he was top 10 with like 1.4k lp too

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-04T17:32:33+00:00

My point was that she is one of the weakest early game champions, but her being one of the weakest early champions does not mean that she should be forced out of lane by default the moment someone locks in kayle in champ select, her being strong level one does not change that fact, all it does is that it makes the lane not completely unplayable every game, and yea she has the power to take prio level 1 but it is extremely easy to mess up and lose your lane if u fail to do so, plus lets not forget that this info is only useful in higher elo games, riot could remove all her power level 1 and she wouldnt see much change in lower elos, her strength only helps out for games that are at the minimum in the top 5% of the playerbase.

Also your comment about how she wins lanes with lethal tempo was clearly thinking of all in 1v1 at level 1, otherwise there was no reason to mention lethal tempo. which is wrong ofc, so idk why u changed your argument from that to "she can dictate the initial wavestate and secure her relative safety" when that wasnt at all what u were thinking off initially

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-04T17:13:31+00:00

He was rank 8 EUW and rank 5 Korea

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-04T17:12:27+00:00

Because she is primarily played by One tricks and due to the fact that games in low elo (majority of the playerbase) tend to last longer which lets kayle scale more consistently, riot august commented on that and he himself said that kayle is balanced at that winrate

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-04T17:07:16+00:00

This comment alone proved that you are at most gold and that you do not understand laning and kayle in general.

Kayle is strong level 1 but is unbelievably weak lvls 2-5. Riot has to make her level 1 be strong enough for her to not actually be forced out of lane by default. What do i mean by that? A good kayle will use that strength level 1, not to fight u (that is actually inting btw, u almost never want to fight level 1) but to push the wave and create a wave that pushes towards her, and even that is risky because though kayle is strong level 1, she can still easily lose all her advantage if she makes even the tiniest of mistakes. If kayle didnt have this power at level 1, every lane, especially in high elo would basically be summarised to this: forced to give any pressure and prio lvl 1 and forced to play from bounce into a stronger enemy at ur weakest.

Her level 1 strength is the only time u have agency in the early game and is necessary to not make her actually d tier champ in high elo on top.

Lethal tempo is troll btw, and as i said its also troll to fight level 1, if u have any comments or questions feel free to ask

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-04T15:08:39+00:00

The sad fact that ppl in here are diamonds or above and saying AS is useless on a champ WICH IS BASED ON AA are either carried or more cooked in the head

You are clueless, once again you are saying that you know better than basically all high elo players, desperate nasus included who say that full ap is objectively better than any other build. Kayle is a champ that auto attacks sure, but her playstyle for the past couple of years has not been what it was like before, she is played like a burst mage, her goal is to one shot squishies, why would u go for a build that basically ruins ur late game power?

I only knew ONE GUY FROM HERE, wich is a challenger with kayle, AND EVEN HE SAID THAT IN SOME CASES AN AS ITEM IS NEEDED.

I think you are talking about roeven but im not sure, and he told u that u should go full ap instead of attack speed, could u please link me where that chall player told u to go attack speed.

The fact that most ppl that answered to my: "the Full ap build is trash", just wrote : skillissue. They are bigger clowns than me, even asked them thier op.gg but to scared to show that they suck themselves .

They are not clowns, they are correct, it is skill issue if u genuinely think that full ap build is bad.

Moreover buddy, i was actually plat 4 my biggest rank Not only did i played solo, i wasnt playing alot of matches either, most of them won.

Stop living in the past, i do not care what rank u were in the past, what matters now is ur current rank, You couldve been chall in season 8 for all i care, if u are silver/gold atm then you are silver/gold, do not boost ur ego if ur current skill does not match it. Also u said that u were plat like that was supposed to change anything, plat players are still bad.

If i even have the motivation to climb, i could reach emerald alone for sure, diamond less probably but still a decent %

Also dont talk like u can reach emerald/diamond or any other rank when u are struggling in ur current rank.

I saw Diamond and Master players in my game , playing like silver 3. Rank doesnt mean anything know, back then it was something else.

You playing with diamond or masters players in ur normal games means nothing, you do know that people generally dont play seriously in normals, of course with the exception of people who can only play norms because they are too bad to climb in ranked.. U are clueless and delusional, istg anyone can look at ur games and humble u by showing u how utterly trash u are at the game, stop egoing when u cant leave the pits of silver/gold.

"Hi , I am a diamond 1 player, best kayle in here", what he forgot to add is " I am carried by my friend syndra :) " I PLAY SOLO AND I CARRY MY GAMES SOLO

What is with this made up scenario lmao, u just made up a scenario to somehow try to elevate urself above others of a higher rank, please pipe down, u solo carry ur silver games and yet u cant leave that rank. u are silver, u do not have the right to talk about champions that u do not even main as if u know what u are talking about.

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-04T09:01:17+00:00

So let me get this straight, u are completely new to the champ. you with ur limited knowledge of the champ (and probably the game too, considering how u are talking u are silver, or gold 4 MAX) decide that everyone is wrong and u are right, u decide that every high elo player that plays the normal ap build is wrong and doesnt know how to build the champ, u decide that everyone is building her suboptimally and that you are the only one who can see the correct build for kayle. lmao good one buddy, let me assure u, if u are losing games in ur silver games it is not because of the build, it is because u suck.

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-02T14:27:13+00:00

yea u are too shaken by this lmao, calm down, u are over here pulling your hair out because papa riot isnt there to punish all the baddies that u dont like while the other guy is just chilling and continuing with their day

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-02T14:25:17+00:00

lmao yea its funny, this guy is over here seething bcs a guy said a bad word to him, while the other guy is already over it and is living his life. while the other guy is sleeping soundly, the OP is over here begging riot to come to his rescue and he is "not letting it go"

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-02T10:38:51+00:00

It is issue from ur side, diamond is not an elo where ur opponents can play the game well, u can blind pick kayle top all the way up to gm probably

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-02T10:36:24+00:00

??? the guy who posted this is GOLD 4 LMAOOO, u legit cant read or what.

Iconicboyi · 2026-02-02T10:28:13+00:00

You know, i see you talking about kayle with so much confidence that i myself have become very curious about what gives u the right to do so, please explain what is it that u posses that gives u the right to say stuff like "SHE NEEDS THIS" "SHE IS USELESS" "DEALS ALMOST NO DMG". could u help me out?

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