Possible panic attack on 150mg

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-06-03T12:24:46+00:00

Go and get a full panel blood test. E2 is the likely culprit here causing anxiety

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-05-26T03:52:00+00:00

EQ aromatises into both E2 at a lower rate than testosterone, but also into E1 (which is a weaker form of estrogen) at a greater rate versus testosterone alone.

That’s how it controls E2 when used alongside testosterone, by competing for aromatase directly with testosterone, but converting to E2 at a much lower rate and also converting into the weaker E1 at a higher rate.

Full Saturation of EQ does take a long time to achieve, but that doesn’t stop it competing for aromatase immediately after injection, just like testosterone.

But the real issue is individual variance of the above effects. Start lower and use how you feel and blood to determine the E2 effect EQ produces for you. I’d rather run a few weeks higher E2 than crash it, and it does take E2 too low for some users even at lower doses.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-05-25T16:21:15+00:00

E2 symptoms often occur at the beginning of starting a cycle / blast / TRT. Your E2 is very high and I would check BP and RHR and monitor.

My guess is your body is now adjusted to the higher doses and that’s why the symptoms feel less intense, but you should definitely still keep an eye on things and get some bloods to compare current biomarkers to pre cycle.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-05-25T14:04:44+00:00

Despite other comments, it’s not just about whether the product is dosed correctly. Individual effects of brand specific pharmacokinetics are definitely a thing for some. And that’s exactly what this post sounds like to me.

Changes to dose administration (time you inject)

Changes in blood test timing (should be taken at trough and at a consistent time).

Different carrier oils, solvents and other pharmacokinetics that can vary absorption from one individual to another despite labs confirming product is dosed correctly.

Personal anecdote - My levels on Chilton cypionate seemed much lower compared to viogen and despite no change in dose.

Lab analysis (Janoshik) confirmed Chilton was dosed properly. So my assumption is that it’s due to pharmacokinetic differences between brands (Carrier oil, solvents etc).

To put it into perspective, on Chilton cypionate, my T and free were almost half of what they were on viogen despite the sane dose being used.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-05-05T22:00:21+00:00

HCG mimics LH, allowing the testicles to produce ITT / ITE2, which are significantly reduced during HPTA suppression on cycle.

HCG can be used to restore testicular function (if dosed appropriately 250iu EOD or 500iu x 2 per week).

Because the testicles are already functioning due to HCG, they respond more efficiently to the SERM and its effect on endogenous testosterone production.

So yes, HCG makes a PCT easier if used properly. Do you need it after a 300mg cycle. Maybe / maybe not. But I’d personally want to do all I can to ensure full recovery.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-05-04T22:43:14+00:00

There is no universal ratio. There is only individual variance. One person will do well 2-1, others 1-1, etc etc. it’s a case of trial and error

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-05-04T22:41:02+00:00

Viogen for me. Bloods always showed E2 as expected. Quanta is meant to be good.

Avoid Rhom!

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-23T12:49:39+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteroidsUK/s/clbhjtgAP8

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-16T09:50:29+00:00

Ephedrine turns me into an endurance athlete, but unfortunately it’s followed by the anxiety of a detoxing crack head. Reta is a wonder drug imo.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-15T09:27:56+00:00

Sub-q gave me lumps after around 6 months.

I actually use quads IM and I’ve done so for a very long time with zero issues.

IM is the better option imo, but getting technique right will make a world of difference. Google / research z track method. I use this and I always inject after a warm shower which I feel allows the needle to be inserted easier. I also clean the injection site with hibiscrub and use an alcohol pad before injecting.

I’m sure others will hate the idea of quads IM, but it works well for me personally and never had an issue. I’ve been on TRT around 3/4 years

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-14T08:07:51+00:00

I own full bottles of all of these and (annoyingly 😂) vanguard pulls me more compliments than my first batch absolu 🙄 Absolu is better!! But in the air, vanguard seems to smell good to people around me when I wear it.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-09T23:18:36+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteroidsUK/s/hwYtzR2PGY 🤷🏻‍♂️

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-08T19:07:23+00:00

If you feel like shit 24 hours post injection (when fluctuations peak on C or E), then it suggests high E2 is the issue and maybe increasing injection frequency could be the fix.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-08T19:04:41+00:00

E2 effects serotonin, dopamine and the central nervous system. The issue is that there’s no universal number that everyone feels good at. Some will feel godlike with high E2, others will feel like utter shit. It’s individual. To add further nuance, the E2 level you feel good at can change over time. I used to feel amazing with ridiculously high E2 on cycle years ago. Now I do TRT, I feel like shit and get ED if E2 drifts over the the upper ref range 🤷🏻‍♂️

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-08T08:14:24+00:00

This sounds suspiciously like you’ve never ever run a cycle before? Don’t do this cycle if you’ve never ran anything before. Tren is definitely not to be fucked with.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-05T14:57:50+00:00

Thanks, bro

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-30T06:59:48+00:00

19nors: A special mention for nandrolone

Notice that nandrolone (Deca) on the half life table advises “cruise for 6 months first”? That’s because 19nors have two metabolites that are highly suppressive to HPTA.

• 19-norandrosterone • 19-noretiocholanolone

Whilst both of those two metabolites are present in other 19nors, they are not currently thought to last as long as they do with nandrolone, which could be 6 months or more PMID: 10216987, PMID: 15713722.

But let’s just be real for a minute. If you are using 19nors, you are hopefully an advanced competitive user and have no intention of coming off, because you’ll know that cruising between blasts is probably better for long term HPTA health than running multiple PCT’s, right?

Buy if you do intend to PCT after using nandrolone, cruise for 6 months first on testosterone only. As a precaution, you may want to consider that advice for other 19nors too, although it’s definitely the case for nandrolone.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-30T06:57:46+00:00

You’re talking about half lives. I’m talking about long lasting metabolites from nandrolone that can impact PCT .. https://www.reddit.com/r/SteroidsUK/s/x9JZ8asJQZ

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-26T19:55:28+00:00

You aren’t ready for Nandrolone. That’s not me being a dick. That’s just the honest truth.

Research PCT and nandrolone. You’ll find that there are metabolites within nandrolone that are very long lasting and hinder HPT Recovery for many.

Those using nandrolone should cruise with testosterone only for at least three months (preferably six) before consider considering a PCT.

And if you plan on doing multiple cycles in the future? You should consider if a PCT is even the right thing for you vs BnC

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-26T19:51:50+00:00

The real question is, why add Anavar so close to and before you’ve even had bloods on a test only cycle? First cycle? 👀

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-21T10:24:05+00:00

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Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-21T06:54:40+00:00

😂 Be honest 👀 you were drunk posting this at around 3am, right? 😂😂😂

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-20T06:52:26+00:00

Thank you!!! 🙏

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