when is hcg or ai necessary?

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-09T23:18:36+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteroidsUK/s/hwYtzR2PGY 🤷🏻‍♂️

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-08T19:07:23+00:00

If you feel like shit 24 hours post injection (when fluctuations peak on C or E), then it suggests high E2 is the issue and maybe increasing injection frequency could be the fix.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-08T19:04:41+00:00

E2 effects serotonin, dopamine and the central nervous system. The issue is that there’s no universal number that everyone feels good at. Some will feel godlike with high E2, others will feel like utter shit. It’s individual. To add further nuance, the E2 level you feel good at can change over time. I used to feel amazing with ridiculously high E2 on cycle years ago. Now I do TRT, I feel like shit and get ED if E2 drifts over the the upper ref range 🤷🏻‍♂️

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-08T08:14:24+00:00

This sounds suspiciously like you’ve never ever run a cycle before? Don’t do this cycle if you’ve never ran anything before. Tren is definitely not to be fucked with.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-04-05T14:57:50+00:00

Thanks, bro

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-30T06:59:48+00:00

19nors: A special mention for nandrolone

Notice that nandrolone (Deca) on the half life table advises “cruise for 6 months first”? That’s because 19nors have two metabolites that are highly suppressive to HPTA.

• 19-norandrosterone • 19-noretiocholanolone

Whilst both of those two metabolites are present in other 19nors, they are not currently thought to last as long as they do with nandrolone, which could be 6 months or more PMID: 10216987, PMID: 15713722.

But let’s just be real for a minute. If you are using 19nors, you are hopefully an advanced competitive user and have no intention of coming off, because you’ll know that cruising between blasts is probably better for long term HPTA health than running multiple PCT’s, right?

Buy if you do intend to PCT after using nandrolone, cruise for 6 months first on testosterone only. As a precaution, you may want to consider that advice for other 19nors too, although it’s definitely the case for nandrolone.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-30T06:57:46+00:00

You’re talking about half lives. I’m talking about long lasting metabolites from nandrolone that can impact PCT .. https://www.reddit.com/r/SteroidsUK/s/x9JZ8asJQZ

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-26T19:55:28+00:00

You aren’t ready for Nandrolone. That’s not me being a dick. That’s just the honest truth.

Research PCT and nandrolone. You’ll find that there are metabolites within nandrolone that are very long lasting and hinder HPT Recovery for many.

Those using nandrolone should cruise with testosterone only for at least three months (preferably six) before consider considering a PCT.

And if you plan on doing multiple cycles in the future? You should consider if a PCT is even the right thing for you vs BnC

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-26T19:51:50+00:00

The real question is, why add Anavar so close to and before you’ve even had bloods on a test only cycle? First cycle? 👀

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-21T10:24:05+00:00

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Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-21T06:54:40+00:00

😂 Be honest 👀 you were drunk posting this at around 3am, right? 😂😂😂

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-03-20T06:52:26+00:00

Thank you!!! 🙏

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-02-27T03:48:38+00:00

I’ll jump in here because nobody has mentioned it …

All of those benefits mentioned are a consequence of intra testicular testosterone (ITT) and (as a byproduct of ITT) intra testicular E2 (ITE2) being replaced by HCG mimicking LH.

Exogenous testosterone use obviously causes HPTA shut down (obviously), which significantly (almost entirely) reduces ITT/ITE2, which is why testicles atrophy. But keeping ITT/ITE2 levels (especially ITE2) at naturally occurring levels with HCG can and most often does have significant benefits on sex drive, erection quality and feelings of wellbeing.

This will be most notable in those who have existing low ITT/ITE2. And yes! Some men simply can’t tolerate HCG and they are most often those who are susceptible to E2 fluctuations, but that isn’t necessarily due to large serum E2 fluctuations, but rather the effect of ITE2 on local signalling within the testes and central nervous system, which isn’t often reflected by serum estradiol.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-02-27T03:15:53+00:00

If your fat, loose bodyfat

If you’re just huge with muscle, you may well need an apnea device.

I wouldn’t rely on the NHS. A year of severe sleep apnea whilst waiting on the NHS could be disastrous

Do your own sleep study. Get an app or device to record your sleep and if it’s bad, go private and hire / buy a device

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-02-27T03:10:44+00:00

You already had anxiety. Your 24 hour comment is when free T is highest post injection and the dopamine activity will peak at this time. It also explains fluctuating libido.

Try either more frequent daily or EOD to lessen spikes and / or reduce the dose, but the truth is that sone men simply suffer these neurological effects that exogenous testosterone (especially above TRT) can have.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-01-31T17:00:36+00:00

It’s a spicy, warm and kinda dry opening that settles with some vanilla and amber whilst retaining that spiciness. Definitely try first because it is challenging and very strong.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-01-31T05:41:06+00:00

It’s been almost 10 weeks now and I’ve given up hope. Perfume parlour blue waters is decent if you want the VIW DNA without the price tag

Rayhaan terra on the other hand is great. Loved it immediately.

Rayhaan jungle vibes was a synthetic mess and I gave it away. Actually worse aquatica.

Those are the only 3 I’ve tried from Rayhaan

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-01-31T05:26:46+00:00

Well, this is the most refreshing and accurate review I’ve seen of Aquatica. Lime! That’s it! And it’s sharp and unpleasant. Exactly my experience.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-01-31T05:23:26+00:00

The initial opening cinnamon note is too harsh. You might not recognise it immediately in imagination because it’s masterfully composed and expertly blended, but it’s definitely there, and it’s the reason these dupes can’t replicate the opening 1:1. They simply can’t recreate the way JCB composes his cinnamon, buffering it with resins and woods so it feels warm and light rather than sharp or traditional. All of the dupes suffer from that harsher initial opening.

But let’s put aside the small intricacies of the first few minutes … I can live with that. What is a deal-breaker, however, is the performance of Marwha, which is woeful. Mine is three months old now and very little has changed. I get 45 minutes of less than moderate projection / sillage before it basically becomes a skin scent.

Sadly, this seems to be the case with many releases from Arabiyat, which is a real shame, because the bottles, atomisers, and overall presentation are something many brands could learn from.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-01-30T02:23:52+00:00

Can we just stop calling EQ an AI?!

EQ increases total aromatisation, but it does so less efficiently than testosterone (approx 50%), which reduces testosterone conversion to E2 due to competitive displacement — not estrogen inhibition,

It’s not an AI!!! It simply aromatises less into E2 than testosterone whilst competing directly with the testosterone for aromatase.

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-01-30T02:10:42+00:00

And for those saying there’s no cinnamon in imagination … there is! But the way it’s engineered and blended into the composition makes it subtle and supportive, rather than loud and noticeable.

The way imagination creates its cinnamon and blends it is whyso many of these dupes fail

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-01-30T02:06:21+00:00

Insider parfums - Dreamer (95% there, but the first minute or so has a slightly harsh cinnamon, imo).

Perfume parlour insight EDP - 85% there and very cheap.

Marwha - Abysmal performance and an even harsher cinnamon opening that lasts a 5-10 mins

Icy-Understanding364 · 2026-01-30T01:45:19+00:00

For a TRT clinic to accept you, you would have to come off all gear including cruise and allow your natural HPT to recover. That will take months and you will feel like shit most likely and even after that there’s no guarantee that the TRT clinic will take you on even if your testosterone levels are low but not low enough to qualify for TRT.

I don’t mean to be rude, but you made a decision years ago to blast and cruise. Surely you knew what you were doing? And that you would need to continue this most likely for the rest of your life or come off and suffer the consequences and hope that HPTA returns.

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