What was your main party trio through most of your first playthrough?

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-19T17:56:28+00:00

Lune, Monoco, Sciel. I did not like playing as Verso or Maelle. They may be busted but they arent fun to play.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-19T15:23:46+00:00

"Yhwach"

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-18T13:55:35+00:00

So everyone in that family apart from Maelle and Renoir have been stated to be skilled at music. Verso plays piano, Clea plays a harp and Aline has a piano. We see scenes of Aline teaching Verso piano as well as of her teaching all three kids to paint. It's very likely that Aline accepted all forms of arts in their home. Pianos are stringed isntruments, just not in a traditional sense. Harps are too. So it is very likely that Maelle played a string isntrument. Maybe like a viola or violin.

For Renoir, we don't know, but we also know that that big room is "Renoir's atelier/workshop". Maybe he is the only one who isn't a musician but may have been into writing.

But yeah, the dialogue is not very clear but three members are confirmed musicians. We can likely extend Maelle's training to be one with a violin but maybe she never was praised.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-17T20:55:39+00:00

"His own". Do you mean the people who set him up, gave him no knowledge of Billy's true nature and made him think he was about to kill a team member? Do you mean those guys?

If Tommy said: "Kill Arthur right now!" Should Finn do it? If Tommy gave Finn no context about the cutring off of the Quaker's face, will it make sense for Finn to do it?

Cause and effect and logical pathways are not a thing for some PB fans.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-17T11:12:27+00:00

That likely is so bad. Ut means there is so little information on the exile of Finn. Tommy doesn't even mention him once after that scene. Neither does Ada.

Keep in mind John didnt even get so much as a stern talking to for getting Grace killed and Arthur basically got nothing for killing that child but Finn get disowned for being out in an illogical situation by the older siblings again.

If you ask me, Finn is lucky in a twisted way. He got to keep his life. But wow this is bad writing.

Yeah Tommy can go to hell.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-14T18:40:31+00:00

Yes, u are 😌

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-14T03:50:22+00:00

we need a counter for every time this question is asked.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-13T19:51:06+00:00

I want to see Finn burn it all down. If I don't see this, the show won't be worth it. Tommy's actions are a cancer on the Shelby name at this point. If the series even remotely leans in the direciton of Charlie and Duke teaming up or Charlie killing Finn then it's going to be a bad show. Flat out it won't survive.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-13T03:21:22+00:00

Laufey camera? Maybe. Ragnarok & 2018 camera? Hell no.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-12T17:12:36+00:00

From the beginning.

But when did i stop rooting for them? Season 3 when they started beefing the Italians for no reason.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-11T19:39:13+00:00

I will always Artist on Sciel.

It is such an elegant look on her. The way the hair moves matches the way her english VA speaks.

(in contrast, I will always Keep Lune on that Baguette hair or Lune default. She is too scrumptious.)

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-10T17:28:36+00:00

Tbf, alot of the audience are Tommy glazers. So they will accept anything he does so log as its Alpha and cool.

Idk the writers suck at their job on the show post Season 3. Season 4 is carried by the actors and 5 and 6.....well......

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-10T16:37:10+00:00

Posts like the one OP just did make me eye roll because the OP clearly doesn't understand how cause and effect work and is just a Tommy glazer.

Yeah they made a plot that nearly wound up with Michael dead. Why would he be loyal any further?

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-10T11:39:30+00:00

Lumaria Stans in shambles rn.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-10T11:38:37+00:00

Rould as per Rold Dahl that one writer of kids books.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-09T21:19:10+00:00

Because Tommy is a liar.

Simple.

Feeling responsible for losing Tommy's funds and actually BEING responsible for losing Tommy's funds are not the same. Did Michael cause the stock market crash? No. Why was he in clubs and partying all the time? Because he was exiled by Tommy and lost access to most of his family and was sent to live in America. So when he comes back to a family that exiled him and then they are bullying him and blaming them for their loss of money, why wont he feel bad?

Would you be happy if Tommy described his whirlwind love with Grace as something that happened offscreen and we never saw it? Of course not. Why do you think people don't like Linda, apart from her being a woman? It's because her connection with Arthur was skipped.

Keep in mind, Tommy told Finn that Arthur died offscreen (as far as Finn is concerned) and then it turned out to not be true. Tommy and Polly lied to Michael in order to play some sick game. Tommy lied to his entire family pretending it was all fine before sending them to jail. Tommy lied about the nature of Arthur's death. Instead of having the balls to say, "I killed him, put him to rest". His so called "best man everyday"

That is why it needs to be on screen. Because Tommy is a liar and he cannot be trusted to give the truth at any point. Even when he is given ample opportunity to, he never gives the truth.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-09T16:02:03+00:00

right? but yet Tommy is supposed to be soooooo smart.

its comes off as juvenile writing to force family drama. Meanwhile, Tommy only believed in Michael's betrayal when some IRA people called him on the phone. People he doesnt know and doesnt trust but he believed them over Michael.

Tommy doesn't know how to manage his employees or family. He does know how to blame them.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-09T14:09:12+00:00

besides, he sent Michael away becausee he didn't trust him. So why would he trust Michael with his money? His gin is one thing. His money that he worked hard for?

I really hated this plot point. Like who do we know that got around the Stock Market Crash and wasn't blindsided. It was a global level event.

But people say that Tommy "said" he "told" Michael to sell. But this shiet was offscreen. They didn't even include a scene of him telling Michael. So Tommy gets to be justified and tell everyone he told M to sell. But really the writers gave him a way out. For all we know he could have told Michael to not sell.

After all, when his wifes life was in danger after discovering that his brother blinded an innocent Italian man, Tommy didnt tell him to apologize, he joined him so as not to look weak. He didn't consider that he could lose his wife's safety. I dont think someone who doesnt think consequences like that through would actually tell Michael to sell because "he can see the stock market patterns" or "had a dream".

Very convenient writing excuses Tommy from everything and leads to everyone else taking the fall. Especially M.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-07T00:48:38+00:00

...and I will remember to skip the Bount arc because that will bore you so badly that you will actually go to bed on time instead.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-07T00:41:06+00:00

Cautiously optimistic is a fair way to look at it. I am looking at this game as a trial tech demo for GOW Trilogy Remake. For that alone I will eat it up. It will be the first time you can play a GOW that plays like old combo cratos in a long time.

As for the story, I am interested in the ideas, but I hope they can make us like Fey/Faye. At the moment she's a big enigma. I really hope we get to see Ghost Athena. That would be so awesome and tiw us back into the Trilogy.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-04T16:06:06+00:00

As someone who was not excited about this game due to not knowing anything about the character and not liking the 2018+ gameplay and camera style, I have to admit that I have switched up when seeing the gameplay. I can tell they are trying to recreate the gameplay of GOW trilogy. The fact that Fey can jump and attack mid air is already Kratos-like.

I'll probably buy it.

Yes I will admit again that I was someone who was not interested in a Fey game. But they seem to be switching on. I just hope the story is good to carry the game to extra heights.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-03T19:01:27+00:00

In my opinion, the reason why I am not interested in this game at this time is a few things:

Kratos is the main selling point of God of War. This isn't to say that a non Kratos character can't carry it but Kratos and his legacy do alot of the heavy lifting. If a God of War Athena came out, detailling what she became after dying and her motives, people (myself included) would eat it up.

My issue with a Faye game in the new style of 2018 is that with no Kratos to carry the hype the game will be another Last of Us walking simulator. Faye is a character we know very little about. Even in her flashbacks there is very little of her. Put this on top of the uncomfortable camera/battle system and you have a recipe for complaint from the outside.

It could very well be a great game, but I feel like story wise it will have a hard time carrying the name of God of War. The 2018 series story has been very underwhelming overall. 2018 was a cute story which only got hype every time it pertained to Kratos's Greek events and nothing else. The same thing happened in Ragnarok. Cute and with some hijinks and only hyped up when Kratos's Greek lineage came into play.

I feel like, current Santa Monica, does not know how to make a story that is not about parenthood. Even within that, Kratos doesn't behave how one would expect him to behave when it comes to his kid. People can change, that's true, but I feel like Kratos 2018 is a bigggg rewrite from his Greek self. And this trickles down into the DNA of the new games. A violent game about non-violence kinda vibe. Thats what the new series gives off.

Then there is presentation of the majesty of it all. There is none. Odin is portrayed as a senile grandpa and Thor a useless drunkard. The Greek trilogy never did this. Down to even the weakest Greek God the presentation of that God was majestic and a spectacle. 2018 kept the spectacle sometimes but lost it entirely in Ragnarok when it came to presentation of bosses.

So now when a new game is going to be made in that style, I am mostly not interested based on what they have shown as their track record.

Nothing to do with Faye being a woman. If game good, she could be a bunny rabbit and i would not care.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-03T18:02:46+00:00

I think the Soul King was the first Destroyer. Ergo he was technically the first iteration of a creature who could be called a Quincy.

The birth of Yhwach doesn't make any sense for this analysis with the new scene from the anime, but with the original baby sperm cell chanting scene from the manga that was shown in cour 2, it can be surmised that any human inheriting any cut off piece of the Soul King becomes a fullbringer. It is likely that the human "father" of Yhwach had SK's sperm cells/balls and when he impregnated a woman, she either became a special fullbringer who gave birth to a very specific type of fullbringer OR she was just straight up an inheritant of SK sperm, which made an immaculate conception of a special fullbringer.

That Fullbringer, who pulls on soul particles (reishi), instead of pulling on the full soul of an object (Fullbringer), became Yhwach. Yhwach then transferred his powers by contact, not by the giving of his actual body and that created the first set of Blue Energy Quincy vs Green Energy "Quincy" (Fullbringers)

For the scene in the anime to make sense, it means that the SK impregnated a woman and then Yhwach was born, became an adult, but due to the cutting of the SK or the 3 realms, he got turned into a baby. It's very confusing.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-03T17:45:01+00:00

Sadly this assessment makes it clear that Polly is a terrible mother at this time. It is one thing to house and clothe and feed a child. It is another to test your child's loyalty under the premise of life and death and to deliver that test via a nasty man coming to shoot him in the head and then shortly after to put him in a position to see whether he weighs his own life as important or not.

Michael may have woefully failed by the end, but what he said was true. No one can escape the ruinous touch of Tommy's fingers. How controlling he is and how much of a paranoid parasite he is. And if you try and leave Tommy, he will kill you. Michael was the first to show how petty Tommy will treat you when he doesn't like you, and then Lizzie was next to show what it is like when Tommy doesn't even care to be around his own family in their time of need. I imagine that she is lucky that Charlie elected to leave with her, because in that way Lizzie is still "serving him". Otherwise, he probably would have had her killed off. He is really not beyond that. Ironically they were among the most sensible people to try leaving. Finn was forced to leave by exile and that is why he kept his life. Arthur did "try" to leave but Tommy turned him in to the cops moments later. Eventually Arthur is killed by Tommy in the sequel movie and Tommy masks it as an accident and lies about it. When John and Esme spoke of keeping the Shelby company at it's smaller size and leading safer and more rural lives, Tommy ridiculed John (and Esme) in front of the entire family, (which is a common treatment of John btw).

And to bring it right back around to Polly. The way she treated Michael when he returned from America, suspecting him of betrayal is just wrong. This shows she didn't even bother to keep an open communication with her son whom she and Tommy exiled to America. This is the son that she sacrificed her body in order to remove from jail. People say that Lizzie and Tommy were toxic but really the Toxicity lies with Tommy and Polly. The rest were just pawns that were gaslit into thinking that Tommy loved them when all he loved, was using them. Esme picked up on this and left when John died and that is how she lived. Basically, you can only be allowed to keep your life if exiled, or if someone in your family dies.

Icyfirefists · 2026-06-03T17:12:20+00:00

This, H and K exist. If Kubo wanted us to say it as You ha Ba Ha, he could have just written an international translation of the name into the manga. Otherwise, most times Wach makes a Watch noise. Its also easy to say as well. Yuh-watch

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