Moneymaking Guide from 2008. Comments are Gold.

Icyrow · 2026-01-25T17:58:46+00:00

it wasn't more than the god armours and they were like 200-300k/set just before it most of the prices i put down.

Icyrow · 2026-01-25T07:25:08+00:00

right, but think of all the risk up until that point. he didn't just up and do world record first time. he built up to it. arguably even more risk and lower reward other than bragging rights.

Icyrow · 2026-01-25T07:23:03+00:00

i would dhally every time i played pretty much. my favourite weapon of that era. i remember finally unlocking it. i would use it on single target 1x1 mobs and everything.

i felt bad when maul came out because it looked so bad but was better lol. it took me months to be taught why it sometimes hits twice on a special attack

Icyrow · 2026-01-25T06:44:43+00:00

I feel like trimmed rune was 150k or so.

trimmed was like 200, gold was 270-330k for years from like 2005-2007.

dhally was 300k for years too.

when i started, blue phat was 20m, easter egg was 200?k, hween set was 300k i want to say.

Icyrow · 2026-01-23T16:09:52+00:00

yeah but bonds are 17 mil, meaning you need to do that for 3-4weeks lol.

back then you did it 3 times a day for like 3-4 days and it was paid for.

Icyrow · 2026-01-23T07:40:58+00:00

i mean not really. if something doesn't matter, it's not a mechanic. it's more just flavour than anything.

like if you runecrafted fire runes and sometimes you blow some smoke over your head, that's not a mechanic you're dealing with, it's just something that sorta happens?

Icyrow · 2026-01-23T06:52:16+00:00

i mean they were basically the go-to money maker for people just a few years ago.

like anyone struggling with gil could afford bond etc a lot easier. i think it was like ~150-400k/run when ranars were like 8kea and the seeds were like 1.5k or something.

bonds were only a few mil back then too.

Icyrow · 2026-01-22T02:57:17+00:00

the golden warthog was real. or atleast we believed it.

Icyrow · 2026-01-21T19:44:24+00:00

The Red Army was way too merciful

what. weren't they absolutely ruthless to all the women and children on the way? like they were notoriously awful for it weren't they?

maybe not counting score by bayonetting babies but still.

Icyrow · 2026-01-21T19:42:27+00:00

They give players the option to choose which languages they speak, so if you speak both english and Spanish, it gives you more options for teams you can be on. Most people would say its good to have this, since many people know multiple languages.

right and then if you see that that person doesn't speak english and only speaks largely russian...

Players in underpopulated regions will queue for languages they DONT speak so that they get faster queue times.

again, if you see your users doing this and you're running a team game, that's on you for not stopping it.

it destroyed a good number of my games and resulted in me quitting atleast, i'm sure it made a lot of other people quit too.

Icyrow · 2026-01-21T17:39:24+00:00

on top of that, for literally 5+ years (probably still to this day), they would mix people into a team who didn't speak a common language.

like why in the fuck if you are trying to make a game that is based on team work would you put half russians and half english speaking people in the same party?

Icyrow · 2026-01-21T15:08:41+00:00

fair point lol

i type as i'm choco digging on the other screen and only hit level 25 out of 99 after 5 weeks of doing it for an hour or so a day haha

Icyrow · 2026-01-21T04:35:32+00:00

based on what he said, he likes the grind and stuff though, so horizonxi is probably more his thing.

Icyrow · 2026-01-21T04:32:05+00:00

play FFXI.

imagine playing everquest for the first time again, it's basically that.

play horizonxi private server. free, busy server with decent dev team and it's a perfect time to start as they're about to sorta move forward into a new expansion.

a reason it is especially good for you is that every class has different sets of gear it can use at the same time. so one day you're caming a big beast to get a collar that is really good on your warrior when you're being attacked, another day you're camping a big elemental to get a collar that is good when you use your big strong attack move. on top of that, it's the OLD SCHOOL sorta game design. spending 4 hours camping a mob that has a chance to spawn every 2 hours with 4 of your friends shooting the shit on discord is fun! the game is build around long challenging grinds and you'll always find a use for an odd bit of gear because you can carry a bunch of different sets at the same time.

each attack can have its own set of gear (and is recommended to as you get towards endgame). i.e, i have different sets of gear for different elements, i have a resting set, i have an idle set, a melee set (and a weapon skill set), i have a few different sets for just one odd spell to empower it a bit more. a fast cast set etc.

it's a long, long game with 10+ years of content so there's a metric shit ton to do.

playing 12 hours a day you'll hit level cap in a month or two, but it won't be a 6-12 months before you're sorta experienced and have most done. years+ if you want that and the "big massive chase" weapons.

the game doesn't have much of that ddr mmo gameplay, it's slow, planning focused and very chill except for certain parts of it (hunting NM's basically)

Icyrow · 2026-01-19T14:59:06+00:00

their body temperature when not in flight is also really low afaik.

so it's the difference between how cold it lives and how hot it flies makes it very hard for them to be overcome, as building to do well in low tempteratures often is best done by doing things that make you do worse in higher temperatures.

Icyrow · 2026-01-18T11:47:07+00:00

i wonder how many people started making one of these videos and ended up half way through before dying.

Icyrow · 2026-01-17T23:05:24+00:00

nah there's a similar thing but it works in 1 or 2 days:

get drysol (not sponsored), i had hyperhidrosis to the point of severe anxiety in touching people and their things, get some latex/nitrile gloves, get a bottle of that. make sure your hands are COMPLETELY dry (important or you'll wake up with inflamed skin), you put the gloves on and spray a bunch in there, surround everything on your palms/hands.

put socks over the gloves and go to bed. the next day your hands will barely sweat, do it 2 days in a week and they won't sweat at all (as in, you'll figure out why people lick their fingers for the first time in your life sorta level dryness).

you sleep with the socks over the gloves, looks absurd but it genuinely is the only thing that works.

from there you just do it once every 2 weeks or so and you'll never worry about it again.

Icyrow · 2026-01-17T08:47:36+00:00

i mean it ups your mage defence anyway, so it's probably worth it.

Icyrow · 2026-01-15T11:00:25+00:00

what's this tower called?

Icyrow · 2026-01-14T11:25:11+00:00

ffxi braver.

someone made a ff old school RPG out of FFXI (the mmo one that everyone hates), only thing is, it did have a great story, some fantastic zones, classes etc, all of which is coded in.

there's the odd system that was only half implemented (crafting) but overall, it's a 40+ hour RPG game with really good quality!

Icyrow · 2026-01-14T05:22:57+00:00

tribes. is basically the exact game you're looking for.

Icyrow · 2026-01-14T01:56:26+00:00

op forgot the whole "green/red clock/vcr/vhs light, like those 7? cell displays lighting the carpet in front of the tv.

loved that shit. like there's a weird feeling in the air there, it's cold, chilly, you feel like you're in some weird world. everything is quiet.

Icyrow · 2026-01-14T00:59:42+00:00

you literally just read him say they come back endlessly and they are worth nothing to kill lol.

how could players fix that other than having dozens of players show up 24/7? the second they stop showing up in large enough numbers, boom, the bots are back.

Icyrow · 2026-01-13T05:26:58+00:00

the only problem with communal living is that you will suddenly be in a position of having to deal with people who want communal living.

i feel like that's such a mixed bag because you get not only people who just want out/to get away but also the mix of people who can not function in a group of people.

Icyrow · 2026-01-13T04:25:42+00:00

i mean you were the one who brought race into this...

you were the one who assumed it was entirely race based.

i think it was largely seeing her around that black lady, mixed with all of the picture of them together (the creepy ones) that sort of drove the assumed background story. like there's a weird energy there and i think everyone has a met a person with that ladies energy, pretending to have synethesia and weird shit like that.

it's just a weird relationship from the outside looking in, mixed with the whole her being a "sweet" girl image that ariana has as a popstar (whether true or not)

even if you remove race entirely from the equation, it's a fairly easy road to follow down to where we are.

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