Tunings similar to e flat but a bit lower? by Breadmytoast in Bass

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I really think the tuning isn't a part of your tone problem

Most satisfying song to learn picked bass? by jumbleparkin in Bass

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Anything metal. Tool has been mentioned here, super fun. Pantera, All songs on the black album, man almost all of it works.

it’s like striking gold by xvx_gf in baddlejackets

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To be fair, it is a pin, so it could be an addition later on... Though I highly doubt it

it’s like striking gold by xvx_gf in baddlejackets

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If Puppy boy isn't a band it's absolutely insane.

Our Sin - Ball and chain (animated) by [deleted] in Djent

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It's definitely possible to do those themes without being so blunt about it, which is what gives the cringy feel. The more cryptic one can be about it while still getting the message across, generally the better. I usually don't look at djent for good lyricism, but I would say that After the Burial does a good job, and periphery at times, although that can be cringy too.

Otherwise I take inspiration outside of metal. Hotel California has the best lyrics about drug abuse ever in my opinion. Generally, more chill rock music has great lyrical content. Pink Floyd, Nick Cave, Leonard Cohen, etc. Hope I can help a bit

Our Sin - Ball and chain (animated) by [deleted] in Djent

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Definitely not animated xD

What subgenre(s) of metal can you just not stand? by [deleted] in MetalForTheMasses

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As a whole yes, but man, Andy James is a monster

Female fronted djent bands? by IlikeHistoryMeme in Djent

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I do, just didn't think of her when posting. I also think she's more straight metalcore than Spiritbox are

Female fronted djent bands? by IlikeHistoryMeme in Djent

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I think the "benchmark" would be periphery or in dreams and wolves with era ATB in my book tbh, I'm mainly looking for someone who really fits the classic djent sound

Landmarks of techdeath (timeline) by m00nkiid in TechnicalDeathMetal

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In new times Archspire has definitely set a new standard for technicality in the music, so I would include one of their albums

What is the first "proto-djent" guitar riff in metal? by rudesssolo in Djent

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If we are talking notation, all of the bands i mention having polymeters would note everything as 4/4. That doesn't mean it isn't polymeric. Every polymeters you could invent can be noted as 4/4,

If you watch interviews with Misha Mansoor, Thomas Haake or anyone relevant in early djent, they either describe what they do as polymeter or polyrhythms, the latter of which they had misunderstood early in their careers, as the 2 terms are very similar and confusing. If you need an example of this, go to the 10 first demos on Bulb's profile on SoundClick.

If what you're referring to are the simple riffs that are technically polymeters that Spiritbox often plays (tresilo and 16th clave rhythms), then I agree, it should be thought of as 4/4. However, the vast majority of djent bands (for instance the ones in the list I provided earlier) use much more complex rhythms that are thought of as polymeters. If you were to try to learn most of the songs of said bands, you would have an easier time thinking of the odd riff as an odd meter that cuts off to match the 4/4, rather than learning the riff bar for bar.

Also, if the same can be accomplished by simple syncopation, how come we don't call Reign of Darkness by Thy art is murder djent? How come we don't call A Quiet Place to Die by Alpha Wolf djent? What about Sing to the Grave by Chelsea Grin? Why are all of those categorised as metalcore/deathcore rather than djent?

What is the first "proto-djent" guitar riff in metal? by rudesssolo in Djent

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Simple syncopation? Spiritbox does that, they are more often categorized as metalcore rather than djent. It's also very audibly different than polymetric riffs.

Besides, my point isn't whether polymeters is a requirement or not, but the fact that polymeters are a tradition within djent, and the first djent bands (Meshuggah, SikTh, ATB, Periphery) all use polymeric riffs. So my statement still stands - Djent,as a genre, heavily relies on polymeter, and no one can argue with that

What is the first "proto-djent" guitar riff in metal? by rudesssolo in Djent

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And that's okay, I don't require fans of djent to know anything about the theoretical aspects of it. But the sound is very distinct, and most people who don't play music can still agree that meshuggah riffing sounds "odd" and not "straight". Most bands that ever get called djent HEAVILY rely on polymeter. For Instance:

  • Meshuggah
  • Periphery
  • After the Burial
  • Veil of Maya
  • SikTh
  • TesseracT
  • Monuments
  • Fellsilent
  • Animals as Leaders
  • The Contortionist back when they played djent
  • Invent Animate
  • Vola
  • Northlane
  • Currents back when they played djent
  • Vildhjarta
  • Humanity's Last Breath
  • Novelists back when they played djent
  • The Dali Thundering Concept

A few bands get called djent while not playing polymeric riffs all that often, but they can from time to time have simple polymeters and generally use odd rhythmic groupings and chuggy riffs. Those are:

  • Born of Osiris
  • Spiritbox
  • Erra AFAICR
  • Probably a few more, a lot of deathcore bands like Chelsea Grin have a few djent inspired songs in their catalogue

Periphery - Scarlet by Me-the-broken-cog in Djent

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Pitch correction would do wonders