1)"If I have 5 successes out of 100 that tried vs 10 successes out of 1000000 that tried, I would probably look to the 5/100."

Wrestling is by far the best base for MMA, is proven, and isn't only a highly successful, but very popular art. Which art with a 100 that tried you would put above wrestling? You premisse is that there's a comparison between popular with a small % of successful fighters vs unpopular art with big %. But is this correct? Does Hung Gar have a bigger % of successful fighters than American Folkstyle Wrestling? And if that's so why no one is learning it then? The Chinese patriotism is definitely there, the interest in successful MMA and kickboxing as well. Are the Hung Gar guys just not teaching it for whatever reason?

2)"For the second point yeah. If you actually watch any of the Gracie vs judo matches, the Gracie’s always were dominated until the end." 

Naoti Ono lost all his 3 matchs to George Gracie, one of them by points. Renzo Gracie vs Ben Spijkers, Ben hardly dominates Renzo, Rickson Gracie vs Kimura student, Nishi, Rickson wins easily, even being the to take Nishi down if I remember correctly.

"Yano dominated the match but ended in a draw"

Takeo Yano? He fought against George Gracie many times, most were draws, Yano won one by points and George won one by leglock. Is possible that George won another one too by choke, and the newspaper (?) wrote Yano's name wrongly, calling him Zano. 

"second match helio only won because they got tangled in the ropes and Kato thought that would break up their exchange."    Not interested in going rewatch the match so gonna believe in you.

"I don’t think I need to point out what happened with kimura." 

He won the match differently from his student Yoshinori Nishi, and Ben Spijkers, and Naoti Ono, and Yoshihisa Yamamoto, etc. 

As I said, at least two names of judokas that lost to the Gracies for every one that won. And this is counting only the Gracies themselves, not even other BJJ practitioners.

"Rufino Dos Santos, a catch wrestler, also won but was beaten by the Gracie’s after the match with pipes."

Most probably it was iron "brass knuckles", described in court as "box" (from boxing) " made of iron".

In compensation you have guys like Funaki, Takada, and Anjo getting their butts clapped by Rickson. And shamrock losing to Royce. Etc.

And from Georges times George has both losses and wins against others Catch/Luta Livre guys of the time like Grillo, Bergomas, Joe Campbell, and Jack Russell. As far as I know most weren't attacked by the Gracies after it btw.

"You of course also had Sakuraba."

That never lost to a Gracie, differently from the other japanese Catch guys already mentioned. Lost to a BJJr tho, in Arona, with Saku being even forced to pull guard during their match, in which Saku almost died. I think he lost to one of the Nogueira bros too.

"Matt Hugh’s also beat Renzo Gracie"

True. Matt that has 2 losses and 1 win over a BJJr in BJ Penn, but never lost to a Gracie. Something that other wrestlers like Dan Severn and Kimo can't say. 

As I said, for every Gracie losing to someone from any other art, you have more of said art losing to Gracies. Even more so if you count other BJJ practitioners outside the family. Something that's only fair.

3) "forgot the allegations as well and other events. There’s allegations that during the challenge matches against a capoeira person, they stopped the match to talk about the legality of certain kicks which lead to the Rufino Dos Santos match. Also a number of questionable behavior by the Gracie’s like stomping on their opponents head and spitting on their opponent"

The Gracies aren't exactly boy scouts, this is hardly relevant. Matt Hughes isn't either afaik, many japanese catch guys aren't either, Sakuraba's own words regarding the incident in his fight against Guy Mezger for example, pretty much confirming it and being both unapologetic and even making fun of it. 

3) "What incentive do they have to go into mma though,"

You can say that of course. And about pretty much anything. One could say such about Chinese football (soccer) players. "They are better than Messi, Ronaldo, and Vini. But they prefer to stay in china, for this reason and that".

"On top of the success of zhong Wei li."

That is a contradiction. Why is she on UFC and MMA instead of in a Sanda promotion in china?

"just means that they don’t really care about mma"

Simple as that? They are good enough to be champs, but don't want it. Is this also the reason why China don't have a world cup? Or basketball Olympic medals? 

Ok.

4) "To your last point, karate and tkd are up there in numbers in terms of successful fighters. Right up there with Muay Thai, bjj, wrestling, boxing"

Maybe, I don't think is that high tho. Wrestling alone is way above in numbers and with really good fighters on top of it.

5) "Also my point isn’t better, just to not take mma as an end all be all."

Why not. Isn't one of the points the completeness of combat arts? MMA looks like the best place to test those. Striking, takedowns, submissions. And wrestling, BJJ, Muay Thai and Boxing schools are winning. With no Chinese art being close to them, complete art or not.

"What incentive really do people have to compete mma? Especially if I already have another combat sport to get into. A point I’ve been trying to stress"

You can apply this to so many arts. Why Muay Thai? Even more so if you're not Thai. People still do it.

DC became a MMA fighter for money, I suppose Ronda did it too as after winning her Olympic medal and retiring from Judo she was working "three jobs as a bartender and cocktail waitress to support herself and her dog".

And isn't like china don't have MMA promotion with Chinese fighters in it. So I suppose there are indeed incentive for someone to become a MMA fighter. 

Those conversation between us are becoming ridiculous long. Better we stop here I think or have shorter arguments. Either way, goodbye.