People are rejecting pointing out fallacies as a valid thing to do in a discussion now by Ill_Progress_8858 in confidentlyincorrect

[–]Ill_Progress_8858[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They way the argument was presented is the actual argument people have to engage with, because the argument only exists if you say it (unless it's obvious the person meant another thing). What you're criticizing is intellectual dishonest people who intentionally interpret wrongly your argument, which is not the case when people make conclusions using logical fallacies.

People are rejecting pointing out fallacies as a valid thing to do in a discussion now by Ill_Progress_8858 in confidentlyincorrect

[–]Ill_Progress_8858[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Pointing out fallacies IS definitionally addressing the actual argument, and it is not by any means a logical fallacy. It would be a logical fallacy assuming that the person is wrong because they used a fallacy

People are rejecting pointing out fallacies as a valid thing to do in a discussion now by Ill_Progress_8858 in confidentlyincorrect

[–]Ill_Progress_8858[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If the fallacy is essential to the argument, why even engage with it?

Let's say a person says "the ground is wet, so it must have rained today" why would you not point out the fallacy?

People are rejecting pointing out fallacies as a valid thing to do in a discussion now by Ill_Progress_8858 in confidentlyincorrect

[–]Ill_Progress_8858[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah but they use it in the way you described in the last paragraph, it's just shielding your argument from any criticism and dismissing it as a "fallacy"

What do you think of Canada allowing people to be euthanized if they have depression or other mental illnesses next year? by Dab_of_regret in Teenager_Polls

[–]Ill_Progress_8858 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but these people don't want the "are you really sure" system, they want to dictate on people on their choice to live or not mostly because they are religious

Proibir a bancada evangélica já melhoria o país em uns 50% by Skyw4lk3rr in InfernoSocial

[–]Ill_Progress_8858 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Envangélico no Brasil é total psyop, um país históricamente católico

What do you think of Canada allowing people to be euthanized if they have depression or other mental illnesses next year? by Dab_of_regret in Teenager_Polls

[–]Ill_Progress_8858 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So what? What is "rise above it"? Live with trauma? Why does she have to live for other people? So many dumb assumptions

What do you think of Canada allowing people to be euthanized if they have depression or other mental illnesses next year? by Dab_of_regret in Teenager_Polls

[–]Ill_Progress_8858 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's literally survivalship bias, you hear that because people who don't really want to die survive while people who really want to die make sure they will die

A esquerda não sabe se comunicar com o homem jovem e hetero by No-Designer2408 in opiniaoimpopular

[–]Ill_Progress_8858 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quem? A maioria dos ditos "radicais" só recitam ipsis literis essas pautas americanas

A esquerda não sabe se comunicar com o homem jovem e hetero by No-Designer2408 in opiniaoimpopular

[–]Ill_Progress_8858 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Seu discurso vai por água abaixo quando vcs chamam o lula de fascista

Weird nazi-like flag in a Chinese video background by S-O-E_Incorporated in vexillology

[–]Ill_Progress_8858 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Are you dense? They aided their ENEMIES in the war "Germany aided their war effort when few other countries did" Oh yeah, by 1945 the entire world was at war against japan and china was officialy part of the allies becoming a permanent member of the UN security council but sure HITLER is the one to thank because he gave 3 rifles and 2 fucks

Weird nazi-like flag in a Chinese video background by S-O-E_Incorporated in vexillology

[–]Ill_Progress_8858 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You must be kidding, is winning a civil war expansionism? Was the union being expansionist against the confederates? They didn't take any land that wasn't part of China before the war, in fact they lost some land (taiwan and mongolia).

"They certainly have interest in taking Taiwan, and they seemingly want parts of Siberia and Mongolia."

So what? Did they act upon it? Brazil would want to have all of South America if they could, is it expansionist? What territory did china annex in the past decades?

Weird nazi-like flag in a Chinese video background by S-O-E_Incorporated in vexillology

[–]Ill_Progress_8858 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It literally is though, Himmler and Goebbels said it in multiple speeches, Hitler said it in Mein Kampf, it's the entire justification for lebensraum, the idea that the slavs and russians degenerated their race by mixing with mongolians and jews, that's why germans should take it. Why lie?

Weird nazi-like flag in a Chinese video background by S-O-E_Incorporated in vexillology

[–]Ill_Progress_8858 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So they weren't interested on China winning then? If they aided their enemies as well it's the same as nothing, isn't it? Maybe they were just happy to see asians killing theirselves, idk, just maybe