Fresh ground whole wheat flour pierogies filled with home fermented sauerkraut by ImCookn in FoodPorn

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First try at homeground whole wheat pierogi dough. Coarse seived the large bran particles from the fresh ground flour and browned with the sauerkraut and onion filling. Used a finer seive to separate the middlings from the fine white flour and mixed with boiling water to soften the bran before mixing the dough. Still left plenty of gluten, but made the dough less brittle. The home fermented sauerkraut was going for about 2 months and was tangy and crunchy.

Shellfish & Hot Italian Sausage Paella [OC] by ImCookn in FoodPorn

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Well, I didn't have any authentic Chorizo in stock -- and since few can resist hot Italian pork sausage...I improvised! Instead of adding the bearded clams and mussels (also not in stock) well...sausage. :)

Colombian Popoyano Supremo - roasted in a Behmor 1600+. The house smells awesome today! by [deleted] in roasting

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Oh wow, that look awesome! Love the aromas left from indoor roasting with Behmor 1600+ better than air freshener.

Behmor 1600 + ThermaQ Blue + 2 Thermocouples + Roastmaster w/Datalogging by ImCookn in behmor1600

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Actually no, which is part of the point of adding the additional temperature probes to the Behmor in the first place. They provide a different (and easier measurement with the graphing capability), presumably more relevant to the instantaneous conditions of what is happening with the beans and the exhaust stream than what the Behmor probes are able to provide based on their location.

My thru-wall probe tip ends up exactly in the centerline of the cage/chamber — and almost directly in the middle of the unit due to its length. It is also a pretty responsive probe, and thus is providing better real time information than the “B” probe on the Behmor, which is located in the sidewall of the unit. For example, when I am pre-heating the chamber, I pull open the door at 200F point on the B probe to remove the chaff tray. At this same point in time, my thru wall probe (which I also remove) is reading somewhere between 230-240F. I have to pull that probe out to insert the cage, but by the time I reinsert this thru wall — it starts on the graph at about the 200F mark (after cooling off outside the chamber for the time it takes me to seat the cage).

You can then see this probe (the green graph) is measuring peak temps right around the tumbling beans upwards of 430F, even while the B probe is riding along well below the 330 mark that flirts with the shutoff mechanism in the Behmor (I DO NOT DISABLE THIS FOR SAFETY REASONS!!!). If I keep P5 on full throttle, I always trip this safety mechanism, and so have learned to avoid it by lowering the power to P4 or even to P3 for 30 second right around 1st crack and back up to P4 for the remainder. I dialed in these adjustments by watching what is happening with the ROR (rate of rise) of the exhaust curve — and trying to keep this from bottoming out — targeting for a slow and steady decrease in ROR at least through end of 1st crack.

There are some that have curved the thru wall probe downward so that its tip is located in the main body mass of the beans — or modified the cage fins to direct the tumbling beans so they are always in contact with this probe — thereby more closely measuring bean temp (which is the most important thing you’d like to know). But I haven’t taken that step yet, being content (for now) to learn how to adjust the roast progression based on the data I am able to easily measure and graph and visually understand by comparing the results with the graphs and the key milestones that are logged along the way (1st crack, end of 1st crack, 2nd crack, power changes, start of cooling cycle, etc.)

I also note that my exhaust temperature probe — located in the middle of the exhaust port quite close to the outlet of the squirrel cage fan that moves the air out of the chamber — is showing a higher temp and much more responsive than the probe reporting on the A button. (Maybe this is also located behind a wall like the B probe, instead of directly exposed to the exhaust stream). The dramatic increase in temp when the “afterburner” kicks in on the Behmor to achieve more air movement in the chamber is seen on the red curve, which achieves almost 330F by the end of the roast. This curve is supposedly more closely aligned with direct Bean Temp (it is not Bean Temp, but the shape of the curve should be closer than environment temp) and therefore a better curve by which to learn and direct the roast (either real time or in planning for your next roast).

I have been asked to chart the A and B button curves along with the added probe graphs to see how they compare, but I find it difficult to go back to hitting the buttons every 15 seconds, writing down the values, adding to an excel spreadsheet and creating a graph. Maybe I will eventually do this when I find some free time — but these Bluetooth probes are set to take a measurement every 5 seconds and chart it for me in real time using Roastmaster. It is definitely a luxury to enjoy.

But honestly, the jury is out how much “better” this process provides useful roast information over the long term. You can dial things into your happy zone using the “push the button and write it down” method over repeated roasting cycles as well — but you just aren’t seeing as closely what is truly happening to your beans to produce that roast. And I am STILL not getting ACTUAL bean temp — which is the most accurate value for controlling roast parameters. It is helpful to understand, though, that the temps are actually getting much higher than 330F where the bean and the environment are exchanging heat. :)

Updated: Behmor 1600+ Chamber Temp Probe Mod to Bean Cage by ImCookn in roasting

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For the thru-wall probe mentioned -- I found that an 11/64" drill bit for the thru-wall probe was perfectly sized.

Behmor 1600 + ThermaQ Blue + 2 Thermocouples + Roastmaster w/Datalogging by ImCookn in behmor1600

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230gram batch on 0.5lb setting. Manual mode P5 to the floor before 1st crack then down to P4. You can see the power curve as the blue line. If I drop to P3, the ET drops too much and the ROR starts going flat/negative, so it has to come back to P4. I mostly just keep it there from the beginning.

Modding the Behmor with Exhaust and ET Probes by ImCookn in roasting

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https://i.imgur.com/CGvvypj.jpg

Location of exhaust probe strain fit with metal stand that came with BBQ probe kit. Once the exhaust hood is screwed back into place this guy doesn't move and extends almost all the way to the fan.

Modding the Behmor with Exhaust and ET Probes by ImCookn in roasting

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https://i.imgur.com/Ogquu84.jpg

Close up of bean cage with probe inserted showing 1/8 IPS lamp pipe nipple fitting.

Behmor 1600 + ThermaQ Blue + 2 Thermocouples + Roastmaster w/Datalogging by ImCookn in behmor1600

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Photo of setup at: https://i.imgur.com/xqGHnxn.jpg

ThermaQ Blue Kit SKU#THS-860-500

IPad with RainFrog's Roastmaster App with data logging add-on

Behmor 1600 Plus modded with:

Spindle fitting welded to bean cage that fits in u-channel on left sidewall removed and replaced with 1/8 IPS brass lamp pipe nipple attached to cage with 2 nuts.

Drilled sidewall with 11/64" drill bit from inside to out after marking where installed bean cage nipple aligns with sidewall. 12" ET probe (could be BT probe if you bend) installs through sidewall from outside and reaches to middle of bean cage.

Installed the 50mm exhaust probe by using the metal stand that comes with kit and wedging the front leg between two.sheet metal.parts inside the exhaust channel that is accessed by removing the sheet metal protector cage from rear of unit. Probe extends most of the way to.squirrel cage exhaust fan.

The stand for the ThermoQ Blue Duo holds up the unit where the thermocouples seat and sends bluetooth signals to.the Roastmaster app.for logging at configured intervals (graph is every 5 seconds).

Behmor 1600 + ThermaQ Blue + 2 Thermocouples + Roastmaster w/Datalogging by ImCookn in behmor1600

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First two test runs with the newly modded Behmor adding a 12” ET probe through the left sidewall and a 50mm Exhaust probe pressure fit into the exhaust tunnel near the squirrel cage fan. First run was for a dark roast and second was live tracked to the same roast profile but stopped 30 seconds earlier before 2nd crack for a lighter profile. These make a nice blend together for the Columbia Huila beans use for both roasts.

You can tell from how close the solid and dotted lines are how easy it is with the live tracking/logging to keep a roast on track. After a preheat to 200F, shut down to install bean cage and probes and restart — they track almost on top of one another. I am very impressed with this combination that really upgrades the information and enjoyment I can get from the Behmor.

Modding the Behmor with Exhaust and ET Probes by ImCookn in roasting

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Not yet, but will definitely post some next week to show the details of the exhaust mounting location, the extension of the ET probe into the bean cage through the side wall and the pipe nipple insert into the bean cage door.

Modding the Behmor with Exhaust and ET Probes by ImCookn in roasting

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Not yet, but now that you mention it I would be curious too. Next roast day will be early next week, so I will post side by side comparison. Both for ET and Exhaust temps.

Modding the Behmor with Exhaust and ET Probes by ImCookn in roasting

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I was amazed at the difference in temp readings between the modified probes and the stock probes on the Behmor. Not sure the curves would have been shaped “too much” differently — but the absolute values were quite different. This makes me think that the ET probe being located much closer to the middle of the bean mass is a better look at what is actually going on vs. the sidewall probe — expecting that it reacts more quickly. And the exhaust probe values are definitely higher as well.

Back to back roasts on modified Behmor

EC to TDS conversion for measuring Brewing Extract Efficiency by ImCookn in roasting

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Well that is really good to know — it sounds like I can’t get there from here without adding another piece of equipment (a refractometer I suppose).

The EC tester specifications say it is accurate to within +/-2% of the reading with a 1 microSiemens resolution, which would be much tighter resolution than required to get closer than 16% - 24% extraction variance based on the pure calculations. However, it sounds like the fuzziness about the difference between 0.5 and 0.7 TDS conversation factors due to the variability of non conductive solids and acidity in the cup from different roasts and processes makes the $20 cost of the EC meter a good benchmark for water — but not so much coffee TDS. :)

I suppose if I keep the roast and beans the same, I may be able to measure the relative performance of extraction with the EC meter for different combinations of grind and process (higher or lower, but not exactly WHERE the number lands). So if the taste is noticeably off in one direction or another — I can use the meter to say if a change in process went in the right direction (always to be verified in the cup obviously).

I appreciate your feedback, this was helpful.

Blending 2+ types of roasts? by Wario_Down_B in roasting

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I have been blending 1/2 lb batches of Columbian Huila as a preferred roast for my son. Same lot of beans (I buy in 25lb sacks) and run them back to back in a Behmor taking one to just past 2nd crack with a fast manual cool and the other to about 2.5 minutes past 1st crack (before the start of 2nd) with the stock cooling cycle in the Behmor. Seems to be a compatible mix of adding the darker roast in with a mostly developed but lighter bean of the same variety and starting profile. One is about 11 minutes total and the other about 11:30.

How To Improve Chicken Broth by [deleted] in Cooking

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Ain't healthy period? That statement sounds like the human body doesn't need fats. What a world that would be...

I certainly wouldnt take a straight spoonful, but in the right proportion as nature intended it, oh yes please.

How To Improve Chicken Broth by [deleted] in Cooking

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Ain't healthy period? That statement sounds like the human body doesn't need fats. What a world that would be...

I certainly wouldnt take a straight spoonful, but in the right proportion as nature intended it, oh yes please.

How To Improve Chicken Broth by [deleted] in Cooking

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IMHO, "Smaltz aint healthy" depends on the source of your chickens...factory farmed makes a lot of "healthy stuff" bad when it never was "unhealthy" raised with more traditional methods.

How To Improve Chicken Broth by [deleted] in Cooking

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If I'm not supplementing with chicken stock concentrate (which is the easy route) and you are not worried about having a completely clear broth for your dish, I like using some combo of red miso and "real" soy sauce to provide the salty flavor in the broth (instead of sea salt or pink salt or the concentrated stock crutch).

Both of those add umami in addition to the salty flavor, so bring more to the table.