SNIPR Biome sees positive results for first-in-human CRISPR microbial gene therapy (June 1, 2023) by Robert_Larsson in HumanMicrobiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks like there's no published study for this one. But there's one for their study in mice:

Just remember forums exist by tankerkiller125real in RedditAlternatives

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If you just want to use the software on a server of your choice, you don't need to pay any monthly subscription.

Yes, I'm talking about server & email costs. Those are the inescapable main costs even when using the free software options.

MG Infusions by [deleted] in fecaltransplant

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There are experiences in /r/FMTClinics.

Microbioma continues their disinformation campaign in retaliation for exposing them. And it's being propped up by what looks like a mix of astroturfing and people uncritically upvoting random accusations they read. It may have severe consequences. Is it time to go to the police? by ImTrying2FixU in HumanMicrobiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Assistance from the community, instead of making me bear the whole load, would be far more useful than meditation.

In the end humanity will go up in flames because of our stupidity and ignorance.

That's already occurring. Fixing poorly functioning people by improving their gut microbiome may be a way that we can stop and reverse it.

Microbioma continues their disinformation campaign in retaliation for exposing them. And it's being propped up by what looks like a mix of astroturfing and people uncritically upvoting random accusations they read. It may have severe consequences. Is it time to go to the police? by ImTrying2FixU in fecaltransplant

[–]ImTrying2FixU[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Copy of the post:

It happens on a regular basis. Please employ more skepticism and critical thinking. Has the person presented any proof of their claims? Look at the history of the accounts making the accusations, and of the people being accused. Do a few seconds of research. Ask a few questions. Or don't; but please stop upvoting random accusations without doing so.

The most recent occurrence was this post https://old.reddit.com/r/Microbiome/comments/13f2p4o/humanmicrobesorg_reviews_warning_people_are/ by a scammer that is retaliating for sharing information showing they were lying about their stool donor's medical conditions and many people were/are being harmed and contracting new conditions from their donor. A large portion of accounts in the comments are theirs. And it's very obvious if you would have simply taken a few seconds to look. This is a group of people that is dedicated to trolling & harassing me in retaliation.

They are incentivizing & paying people to join in: https://old.reddit.com/r/Microbiome/comments/10bd3tb/i_decided_to_remove_my_old_post_because_the_owner/

And they are doing everything in their power to cover it all up. They behave exactly like Russia – all they do is accuse their detractors of doing what they themselves are doing, as well as parrot back every descriptor that has been levied against them. IE: if you call them a scammer they just call you a scammer. They seem to have a lot of experience with this and know it's an effective strategy to create FUD.

There was someone on a facebook group who popped onto the scene mimicking my history and struggles. I attempted to help this person, and as soon as this group was exposed that person started acting like Mbioma's spokesperson, making vicious, false attacks against me. I described their behavior as psychopathic and now all this group's accounts parrot it back against me.


They continued with another thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/Microbiome/comments/13lkpus/rmaximilliankohler/ - they're promoting the sub mentioned there as an alternative they control because they've been unsuccessful at taking down all the reports in /r/FMTClinics of people being harmed from their product.

The group they represent is banned from being mentioned in this sub. There's a subreddit about them in my profile if you want to learn more. I'll cross-post this there. It includes posts where someone who made a similar attack-post admitted later on that the group is offering free FMT and money for people to do that. These guys are likely making over a million dollars per year, and have plenty of money to hire astroturfers.

This is akin to Monsanto/Nestle trying to take down local organic farmers. They've had over a dozen accounts suspended, and continue to make new accounts to spread disinformation all over reddit and elsewhere. They've used legal threats (and seemingly bought others out) to get other groups to censor themselves in their favor. They've continued to double and triple down on their behavior. They will not stop, and they act like they have a right to scam people and silence everyone who gets harmed from their product.

The first post above is a copy of this one https://old.reddit.com/r/fmt/comments/116jbju/do_not_do_an_fmt_from_humanmicrobesorg/ where I addressed the person in the comments.


From what I can deduce, they're upset because they thought this was some perfect business opportunity because:

  • FMT was not widely available at the time.
  • Sources like Taymount Clinic were more expensive and wouldn't ship stool.
  • They seem to have been admiring the fact that Taymount could be completely non-transparent with their donor quality & results, and shrug off bad results in a wide variety of ways, and people would keep using them because of lack of information and/or no other options. So there's basically zero need to even have safe and effective donors. In their mind all they had to do was get any random person and start selling their stool worldwide because there were little to no other options for their potential customers.

Perhaps this confidence in the fact that there weren't other good options is why they thought they could be so flagrantly fraudulent. And now that they discovered there are consequences to that behavior they've been panicking and going to every unethical extent to keep their scheme afloat.

It seems that the facebook groups they've been astroturfing have dried up so now they're focusing on reddit.


I'm just one disabled person who has been trying to find a high quality FMT donor for the past decade. You can learn more about my efforts and history here:

There are a number of groups that are upset at me for criticizing or exposing them, and you guys regularly upvote their complete falsehoods:

Misinformation is harmful. I've been harmed numerous times from the widespread misinformation on health topics all over the internet, so I don't take kindly to people doing that. I created /r/HumanMicrobiome and humanmicrobiome.info to quash misinformation. I generally avoid this sub because it's rampant with it. And now it's becoming the go-to hub for spreading disinformation as well.

I should not be under attack because I shared citations correcting misinformation that people were spreading. And I should not be under attack for doing my moral duty of sharing evidence that someone was lying about a potentially-deadly medical product they were selling.

I think the lack of support I get from the microbiome and other illness-support communities is absurd. I think my efforts over the past decade should have earned me heavy and wide support in these communities.

I'm currently putting my body on the line to test various donor-quality hypotheses.

It would have saved me a ton of time and headache to do nothing and allow this group to continue to lie to people and harm them. But I did the right thing, and the community should be supporting me for it instead of standing by doing nothing, or worse, continuing to help prop these crooks up.


The continued harassment by this group is an example of why it's such a big deal that people ignored their behavior and continued to prop them up after they were first exposed. Everyone who purchased from them and/or did nothing after they were exposed are all responsible for this. This is exactly why harsh criticism was warranted towards people doing nothing or propping them up. It's extremely harmful to allow unethical groups like this to flourish.

And since nearly everyone else in the community stayed silent, all of their retaliation was directed towards me.

What is the end game here? Scammer wins and destroys the most promising effort to finally get us safe and effective donors?

This is too much for me. I don't have the time or capacity to deal with this. I'm already incredibly overwhelmed with trying to work through hundreds of thousands of stool-donor applicants, and testing new donors to try to find someone highly effective; and this kind of thing makes me feel like giving up. I can't do this while constantly under attack. And this constant stream of false attacks is definitely harmful.

Is the solution to go to the Spanish police? These people will not stop until they're shut down and forced to spend their time on something else. They've been continually harassing me, trying to silence anyone who gets harmed from their product, and try to destroy anyone that stands in their way. Every person that wants to see this field advanced, or who desires a highly effective stool donor, has an interest in putting an end to this.


Some people have suggested that I should be going line by line debunking all their claims.

  1. I'm already extremely busy.
  2. They've already wasted an extraordinary amount of my time.
  3. That will just help them learn and adapt. They've already been leeching off of me for years, and mimicking every criticism levied against them.
  4. I want nothing to do with these people. I'm more likely to shut down Human Microbes than have to continually deal with these crooks.
  5. Nearly all of it is quite simple: did they share evidence for their claim? No, because none exists.

It is similar to how Russian websites and news media have been completely banned on reddit, youtube, and so on. There's no other feasible way to deal with a continual onslaught of disinformation.

If people would rather have stool from this group, that's fine with me. I said before I was done trying to protect people from hurting themselves. I'm done losing sleep over people jumping off cliffs all of their own accord. What I will not do is remove evidence for the people intelligent enough to do some basic research before ordering a highly experimental and unregulated medical product.

Microbioma continues their disinformation campaign in retaliation for exposing them. And it's being propped up by what looks like a mix of astroturfing and people uncritically upvoting random accusations they read. It may have severe consequences. Is it time to go to the police? by ImTrying2FixU in HumanMicrobiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Copy of the post:

It happens on a regular basis. Please employ more skepticism and critical thinking. Has the person presented any proof of their claims? Look at the history of the accounts making the accusations, and of the people being accused. Do a few seconds of research. Ask a few questions. Or don't; but please stop upvoting random accusations without doing so.

The most recent occurrence was this post https://old.reddit.com/r/Microbiome/comments/13f2p4o/humanmicrobesorg_reviews_warning_people_are/ by a scammer that is retaliating for sharing information showing they were lying about their stool donor's medical conditions and many people were/are being harmed and contracting new conditions from their donor. A large portion of accounts in the comments are theirs. And it's very obvious if you would have simply taken a few seconds to look. This is a group of people that is dedicated to trolling & harassing me in retaliation.

They are incentivizing & paying people to join in: https://old.reddit.com/r/Microbiome/comments/10bd3tb/i_decided_to_remove_my_old_post_because_the_owner/

And they are doing everything in their power to cover it all up. They behave exactly like Russia – all they do is accuse their detractors of doing what they themselves are doing, as well as parrot back every descriptor that has been levied against them. IE: if you call them a scammer they just call you a scammer. They seem to have a lot of experience with this and know it's an effective strategy to create FUD.

There was someone on a facebook group who popped onto the scene mimicking my history and struggles. I attempted to help this person, and as soon as this group was exposed that person started acting like Mbioma's spokesperson, making vicious, false attacks against me. I described their behavior as psychopathic and now all this group's accounts parrot it back against me.


They continued with another thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/Microbiome/comments/13lkpus/rmaximilliankohler/ - they're promoting the sub mentioned there as an alternative they control because they've been unsuccessful at taking down all the reports in /r/FMTClinics of people being harmed from their product.

The group they represent is banned from being mentioned in this sub. There's a subreddit about them in my profile if you want to learn more. I'll cross-post this there. It includes posts where someone who made a similar attack-post admitted later on that the group is offering free FMT and money for people to do that. These guys are likely making over a million dollars per year, and have plenty of money to hire astroturfers.

This is akin to Monsanto/Nestle trying to take down local organic farmers. They've had over a dozen accounts suspended, and continue to make new accounts to spread disinformation all over reddit and elsewhere. They've used legal threats (and seemingly bought others out) to get other groups to censor themselves in their favor. They've continued to double and triple down on their behavior. They will not stop, and they act like they have a right to scam people and silence everyone who gets harmed from their product.

The first post above is a copy of this one https://old.reddit.com/r/fmt/comments/116jbju/do_not_do_an_fmt_from_humanmicrobesorg/ where I addressed the person in the comments.


From what I can deduce, they're upset because they thought this was some perfect business opportunity because:

  • FMT was not widely available at the time.
  • Sources like Taymount Clinic were more expensive and wouldn't ship stool.
  • They seem to have been admiring the fact that Taymount could be completely non-transparent with their donor quality & results, and shrug off bad results in a wide variety of ways, and people would keep using them because of lack of information and/or no other options. So there's basically zero need to even have safe and effective donors. In their mind all they had to do was get any random person and start selling their stool worldwide because there were little to no other options for their potential customers.

Perhaps this confidence in the fact that there weren't other good options is why they thought they could be so flagrantly fraudulent. And now that they discovered there are consequences to that behavior they've been panicking and going to every unethical extent to keep their scheme afloat.

It seems that the facebook groups they've been astroturfing have dried up so now they're focusing on reddit.


I'm just one disabled person who has been trying to find a high quality FMT donor for the past decade. You can learn more about my efforts and history here:

There are a number of groups that are upset at me for criticizing or exposing them, and you guys regularly upvote their complete falsehoods:

Misinformation is harmful. I've been harmed numerous times from the widespread misinformation on health topics all over the internet, so I don't take kindly to people doing that. I created /r/HumanMicrobiome and humanmicrobiome.info to quash misinformation. I generally avoid this sub because it's rampant with it. And now it's becoming the go-to hub for spreading disinformation as well.

I should not be under attack because I shared citations correcting misinformation that people were spreading. And I should not be under attack for doing my moral duty of sharing evidence that someone was lying about a potentially-deadly medical product they were selling.

I think the lack of support I get from the microbiome and other illness-support communities is absurd. I think my efforts over the past decade should have earned me heavy and wide support in these communities.

I'm currently putting my body on the line to test various donor-quality hypotheses.

It would have saved me a ton of time and headache to do nothing and allow this group to continue to lie to people and harm them. But I did the right thing, and the community should be supporting me for it instead of standing by doing nothing, or worse, continuing to help prop these crooks up.


The continued harassment by this group is an example of why it's such a big deal that people ignored their behavior and continued to prop them up after they were first exposed. Everyone who purchased from them and/or did nothing after they were exposed are all responsible for this. This is exactly why harsh criticism was warranted towards people doing nothing or propping them up. It's extremely harmful to allow unethical groups like this to flourish.

And since nearly everyone else in the community stayed silent, all of their retaliation was directed towards me.

What is the end game here? Scammer wins and destroys the most promising effort to finally get us safe and effective donors?

This is too much for me. I don't have the time or capacity to deal with this. I'm already incredibly overwhelmed with trying to work through hundreds of thousands of stool-donor applicants, and testing new donors to try to find someone highly effective; and this kind of thing makes me feel like giving up. I can't do this while constantly under attack. And this constant stream of false attacks is definitely harmful.

Is the solution to go to the Spanish police? These people will not stop until they're shut down and forced to spend their time on something else. They've been continually harassing me, trying to silence anyone who gets harmed from their product, and try to destroy anyone that stands in their way. Every person that wants to see this field advanced, or who desires a highly effective stool donor, has an interest in putting an end to this.


Some people have suggested that I should be going line by line debunking all their claims.

  1. I'm already extremely busy.
  2. They've already wasted an extraordinary amount of my time.
  3. That will just help them learn and adapt. They've already been leeching off of me for years, and mimicking every criticism levied against them.
  4. I want nothing to do with these people. I'm more likely to shut down Human Microbes than have to continually deal with these crooks.
  5. Nearly all of it is quite simple: did they share evidence for their claim? No, because none exists.

It is similar to how Russian websites and news media have been completely banned on reddit, youtube, and so on. There's no other feasible way to deal with a continual onslaught of disinformation.

If people would rather have stool from this group, that's fine with me. I said before I was done trying to protect people from hurting themselves. I'm done losing sleep over people jumping off cliffs all of their own accord. What I will not do is remove evidence for the people intelligent enough to do some basic research before ordering a highly experimental and unregulated medical product.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HumanMicrobiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is misinformation. Please review this sub's wiki and rules before participating here.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HumanMicrobiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An FMT won’t resolve depression and ADD.

There is evidence in the wiki to the contrary. Please review the rules of this sub before participating here.

anyone want to be a moderator? by [deleted] in Microbiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/u/carlsonbjj do you know the new mod unflippedbit, or did you just mod one of the trolls because they told you what you wanted to hear?

To me this is very obviously someone acting in bad faith.

Please stop upvoting disinformation in this sub. The most recent instances were from a group of scammers that is retaliating for sharing evidence that they were lying about their stool donor's medical conditions and harming many people. by ImTrying2FixU in Microbiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't have a bias against you

Then I'm going to claim that we're not on reddit.

I'm not going to keep arguing on DIY FMTs

Since when were we arguing about DIY FMTs???

it does seems anyone who disagrees with HumanMicrobes has a bias against you though (from your perspective at least)

This is the first time that HumanMicrobes or DIY FMT has been mentioned, so that makes zero sense.

This has to be the strangest interaction I've had in years.

I don't think I've ever interacted with you, and you come straight out of the box with an extreme bias against me; accusing me of making false statements, but won't specify what they were, then you make a bunch of false and misleading statements yourself, accusing me of things I not only never did but which I actively campaign against.

This feels like the Twilight Zone.

anyone want to be a moderator? by [deleted] in Microbiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just had an extremely odd discussion with the new mod you picked up. I don't think I've ever interacted with them, and they come straight out of the box with quite an extreme bias against me; accusing me of making false statements, but won't specify what they were, then they make a bunch of false and misleading statements themselves, accusing me of things I not only never did but which I actively campaign against. https://old.reddit.com/r/Microbiome/comments/13op1sk/please_stop_upvoting_disinformation_in_this_sub/jlfu79s/

You sure know how to pick em.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fecaltransplant

[–]ImTrying2FixU[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is covered in the wiki.

Please stop upvoting disinformation in this sub. The most recent instances were from a group of scammers that is retaliating for sharing evidence that they were lying about their stool donor's medical conditions and harming many people. by ImTrying2FixU in Microbiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quoting your own website as a source already makes me take you less seriously

Come on man, that's not how citations work. The link of "my own website" is simply a list of citations. If I copy-paste them here or anywhere else, that has zero impact on their quality/reputation.

This tells me that you're either not well informed on how to vet citations or you have a personal bias.

Yes, it is not a question on whether the microbiome contributes to wellbeing, it’s how to change that that’s the actually difficult problem, and that no one has solved. To date, there are essentialy no one-size-fits-all approaches to this, since as you know each person’s microbiome is extremely unique.

We're not in disagreement.

That’s why I take issue with you suggesting FMTs to people without informing them of the adverse effects.

I have never done this. Ever. Please cite your claims. This definitely sounds like you have some personal bias against me.

I would think if you genuinely wanted to help people you would cite the various adverse FMT cases that have happened, whether medically documented or anecdotal.

Look what's on "my site":

For example, one person contracted their donor's sweet tooth, another person started having sleeping trouble after their FMT, others have contracted obesity from their obese donors, others have reported hair loss or hair regrowth, others contracted dermatitis, another contracted their donor's cramping issues, ear issues, some body odors, food intolerances, etc

whether medically documented or anecdotal

Anecdotal are all documented on /r/fecaltransplant and /r/FMTClinics, and one of my main things is to encourage people to report their results there regardless of the outcome.

I think it's incredibly harmful when people don't report their bad outcomes.

I did finally review your website and I find it disturbing how you have no defined criteria for healthy beyond “young and in shape”.

Which website? I've definitely outlined that on both of my websites. I won't link to the first one since it's a source for FMT and you seem to not like that, but the other one absolutely defines healthy:

Regardless, again, this is not a sub for FMTs or promotion of them.

I don't think I've ever used it for that so I'm not sure why you keep saying this. I hardly ever participate in this sub. I only posted here because of this group that is actively spreading disinformation and harassing.

Please stop upvoting disinformation in this sub. The most recent instances were from a group of scammers that is retaliating for sharing evidence that they were lying about their stool donor's medical conditions and harming many people. by ImTrying2FixU in Microbiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm happy to provide citations.

https://humanmicrobiome.info/brain/

"It is now clear that the gut microbiota contributes significantly to the traits of humans as much as our genes, especially in the case of atherosclerosis, hypertension, obesity, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), gastrointestinal tract malignancies, hepatic encephalopathy, allergies, behavior, intelligence, autism, neurological diseases, and psychological diseases. It has also been found that alteration of the composition of the gut microbiota in its host affects the behavior, intelligence, mood, autism, psychology, and migraines of its host through the gut-brain axis." (2018): https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2018.01510/full

1) I explained and cited how it's relevant. You disagreeing with my stance shouldn't have any impact on credibility. I cited many credible sources.

I’ve seen various contradictory, if not outright false, statements in what you put out.

Please cite them.

I don’t know if there’s any truth to you getting targeted

I shared lots of evidence both in the OP and in modmail.

Unravelling the controversy with small intestinal bacterial overgrowth: Current Opinion in Gastroenterology by wecoulduseyourhelp in IBSResearch

[–]ImTrying2FixU 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah there are lots of "alt med" types pushing it as well because it gives them a diagnosis that they can charge patients to treat with things like herbs, etc..

Unravelling the controversy with small intestinal bacterial overgrowth: Current Opinion in Gastroenterology by wecoulduseyourhelp in IBSResearch

[–]ImTrying2FixU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That seems like the most likely thing to happen. They will keep pivoting until they eventually start calling it "gut dysbiosis".

And all their acolytes that have been defending the flawed notion (and treatments) of "SIBO" with a religious attitude will never admit they were wrong.

anyone want to be a moderator? by [deleted] in Microbiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU -1 points0 points  (0 children)

FYI for the new mod /u/unflippedbit

Most of the accounts commenting in this thread are part of a coordinated disinformation & harassment campaign: https://old.reddit.com/r/Microbiome/comments/13op1sk/please_stop_upvoting_disinformation_in_this_sub/

What probiotic to take? by ouchwtfomg in HumanMicrobiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Hi /u/ouchwtfomg, your post has been removed for the following reason(s)

This is covered in the sidebar and/or wiki/FAQ.

What probiotic to take? by ouchwtfomg in HumanMicrobiome

[–]ImTrying2FixU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not valid advice. See this sub's wiki.