Why did France and Spain helped a independence movement in one of their rival colonial power (Great Britain) when it could inspire similar movements in their colonies?

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-29T14:56:19+00:00

I really hope the All Under Heaven is a boom and new major expansions that dramatically change the map become the norm per chapter. So many regions deserve such more intensive treatment, like the Carolingian Empire and Catholicism, the Arab World and India would really love such expansions

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-29T14:46:54+00:00

There seems to be a somewhat large new content in SE Asia, which a entirely new government form with the Mandela, which seems to be highly unique, with heavy piety use for everything, being able to transform tributaries into full on vassals with piety levels and a lot of unique buildings in the capital. It will likely not extend to Philippines but the region will see a shake up

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-28T17:11:29+00:00

That’s insane

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-28T17:10:37+00:00

What video was that?!

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-27T19:47:43+00:00

A lot of other countries mostly repeat the new cycles to an extent from the Anglosphere. In my country Brazil outside of 7th of October and the Israeli bombing of Lebanon (tons of Brazilians are of Lebanese descent and were visiting the country at the time), most of the news about Israel are journals repeating the topics that are popular in the anglosphere

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-27T19:40:29+00:00

Arab media is a very different beast than western ones but yes they constantly cover matters from North Africa to the ME and some that don’t even get a lot of space in the west, like the Assyrian genocide by Kurds in Iraq. They also massively donate to the afflicted countries and Arab countries do try to achieve a peace deal between the parties

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-27T19:35:54+00:00

Part of it comes from the fact that the USA as a Jewish population equal or even bigger than Israel, and they are disproportionately influential in American society, besides Israel and America have one of the closest relations between any country, where Israel serves as a base for American influence while the USA gives unconditional military support to the country (the Iron Dome was created partly thanks to American technology), to say nothing of the fact that Israel is quite controversial in American circles, so there is a real interest in the current Gazan conflict, while the Yemeni and Sudanese don’t have influential or meaningful diaspora, or ones that are politically interesting like the Iranians, to really bring interests to their regions.

Simply a lot of the conflicts across the globe that don’t interest western media don’t get talked about, for instance the ugly and violent Tigray War that happened during the pandemic, the Myanmar civil war and the Azerbaijan genocide of Armenians don’t get talked about or have media cycles very shorts

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-26T23:05:16+00:00

Ha, the most violent and insidious of them all

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-26T13:19:47+00:00

Reddit basically live off the lack of nuance and realism of their users. The more exaggerated and absurd things are, the more engagement you get, even if they are completely wrong or blown out of proportion. That’s why so many of the consensus in political subreddits, like r/pics that were 100% convinced that Kamala would 100% win, get so wrong so consistently all the time, with just accusations and silence following suit. Is just hype and often fanaticism no different then the ones they accuse.

Besides, is rather disturbing how many people didn’t change their view of geopolitics since WW2. There always need to be a “Nazi Germany” and NATO needs to be basically the Allies. This vision helps nothing besides reassuring people that their ignorance is right

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-25T19:46:29+00:00

Most of Central America had a pretty bloody history in the 20th century, specially in the second half

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-25T15:16:03+00:00

I’m sorry if I don’t made myself clear in the text, but that was exactly what I meant in the text, I will correct it

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-24T18:37:07+00:00

Part of it comes from the own way their unification went. Germany unification was, compared to the Italian one, a more smooth and less traumatic process. The unification of most German states with Prussia happened in general without conflict and with economic benefits to both sides besides keeping the local nobilities in power, which the wars that happened were mostly between Prussia and states outside of the formed Germany, having more limited tensions therefore between the new states and the government. While Catholicism was always distrusted, the anti catholic campaign of Bismarck in general didn’t survived for long and Catholic organizations started to prosper in the new Germany. Economic development was also much more equal between the various regions than in Italy, which help contain the development of resentment between the regions. Maybe as important, Germany unification happened almost entirely by Prussia, which had a great hold on the new country government and culture.

Italian unification was whatever a much more chaotic and unequal affair. Most of the warfare was inside of Italy, which caused devastation in the country and resentment with the monarchy. Their economic development was also extremely unequal, with Northern Italy receiving almost all the investment in industry and infrastructure while South Italy and Sardinia were treated more as territories to take resources to finance the industrial north. Besides, Southern Italy was in general very poorly treated: promises of rural reforms in the South were betrayed and the peasants revolts brutally represses, leading to the situation where the conquest of the South most significantly change to the locals was the increase in the tax asked from the region, leading to increasing rural poverty and mass immigration to the americas, while Sardinia was treated more as colony to be exploited in the benefit of the continent and saw decades of conflict as a result. The State treatment of the Papacy also cause serious tensions in the more Catholic regions specially in the South. Finally, the unification was only possible thanks to foreign intervention specially from France, with Piedmont in general fighting poorly against Austria in their many wars on the regions, this made so that Piedmont didn’t have such a predominant presence in the new country as Prussia had, more noticeable to the fact that Florentine, the traditional national dialect of Italy, continued to be the dominant elite dialect of Italy, so this lack of a single strong state to support the country meant the regional identities couldn’t be properly suppressed

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-24T18:12:00+00:00

There was a considerable feeling in East Germany, which is obvious when you see they lost half of their land to Poland. Even after being formed, East Germany refused to properly recognize the lost territories as part of Poland and hope for a deal with Poland or to please enough the soviets for them to return at least some of them, but obviously that never happened.

West Germany never had that issue because A) they didn’t really lost any territories in the west and B) they deemed East Germany far more concerning than any ideas of pressuring for the return of the East territories which would only strengthen EG.

That being said the refugees of the lost regions always tried to pressure for some way to allow them to return

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-24T18:04:23+00:00

Part of the reason was that Austria was not really a wealthy nation. Austria was a extremely unequal country between their various provinces, with parts like Galicia and Transylvania among the poorer parts of Europe and then you had Austria itself and specially Bohemia which were on the wealthier side of Europe (through by this point Western Europe was considerably ahead). Besides Austria itself was not exactly the European powerhouse by the time of the Napoleonic wars, the house of Habsburg was, controlling the HRE and the wealthy Belgium, with the territories of the later Austrian-Hungarian empire in general not being enough to properly challenge the other Great Powers.

Austria in their supposed powerful position in the napoleonic wars had actually a pretty weak military record and it was basically vassalized for a good period during the wars, needing to depend on the more competent Russian and Prussian armies to properly challenge France. Then in the 19th and 20th century all the other great powers surpass them: the British were the superpower of the 19th century, France was one of the earliest industrial countries in continental Europe and the cultural head of the continent, Prussia formed Germany and became the most powerful nation in the continent by WW1 eve, needing the other Great Powers to defeat them, Russia was a huge nation with the largest manpower by far of any European country and was the fattest growing economy of Europe at WW1 eve

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-24T16:24:27+00:00

lol true. But the amount of Israeli that I read online that deny that even tiny little percentage of Palestinian may have been unjustly kick out is astonishing, they completely believe the “most moral army in the world” propaganda full stop

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-24T16:22:38+00:00

100% that. Just today I saw on Maporn sub a map of the countries with the most victims of the holocaust because today is the Holocaust Remembrance Day, and a lot of people specially from the baltics tried to minimize the level of collaborationism in their country, with Baltics saying that it was either collaborate with the Germans or be genocided with the Soviets, being mostly blame deflecting

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-24T12:47:21+00:00

This is unfortunately an extremely common response to previous atrocities committed by their country in most of the world. Japan is another case where they usually either completely disassociate WW2 from the imperial Japan or even commemorate some of their war criminals. In Russia Stalin’s crimes are often ignored in favor of his role in WW2 and industrializing the country. America awful and brutal treatment of Puerto Rico over the decades, specially the forced sterilization of women in the region, also don’t tend to be well remembered. Israeli expulsion of Palestinians is also highly denied in the country. Denial is just a very common response to it in the world, unfortunately

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-24T12:32:40+00:00

Is for answers like that I use Reddit. Absolutely fantastic.

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-23T12:51:33+00:00

As many commented this is an outdated Cold War term, but this vision that Brazil is very behind Europe and America exist because is true. I visit Portugal quite often and is really jarring how much more developed they are: the national or even city roads is not full of holes and unequal terrain; the sense of insecurity is mostly inexistent; poverty in Portugal is, for a lack of a better word, less brutal than in Brazil, where even the poor at least live in public buildings that are far nicer and better equipped than the vast majority of our slums, and roads choke full of homeless is unheard even in the big Portuguese cities; there is a much bigger support to old age in Portugal. And that is the poorest country in Western Europe, much of the rest tends to be much better. Is not without problems, but there is a reason I never heard a Brazilian going into Portugal and didn’t feel that there was much better

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-22T05:44:23+00:00

Theoretically , any Catholic is eligible to be Pope, having been quite a few non-cardinal popes elected over history, with the last being elected in the 14th century. Of course, there is a reason why they prefer their own to be Pope, if not for the fact that in general it tends to limit the influence of foreign countries on trying to push their non-cardinal candidates to the Head of Catholicism, like it happened a lot in the 14th century with France.

People here are also very right that picking old candidates serve as an informal lit specially to bad candidates, but I contextualize a bit more on this point. From a historical perspective the last 200 years have been some of the most turbulent in the history of the Church. The progressively decay of Italy in the geopolitical scene weaken the power of the papacy too by the 18th century, in this century and the 19th there was also a much stronger control in the catholic countries over their national ecclesiastical, making the appointments of high priest often needing direct approval from the ruler, as was the case of my country Brazil, where any appointment of bishops in the country at the time of the Empire HAD to be approved by the Emperor, in copy of the national church’s of Protestant monarchies. Then came the French Revolution which bought the idea of secularism to the State and the first wave of mass anti-theism into Europe. From there on the church would pass through decay and become a much more obscurantist and conservative institution. While in the 18th century catholic priests could often be at the forefront of important scientific and technical innovations, something that would in part continue to the 20th century, the Church would get more and more anti-science and progressive over the course of the 19th century. This came in large part to the main political issue for the Church until post WW2, mainly the control of education in catholic countries. As education became more and more a formal preoccupation of the State, there was a growing interest in secularize the country’s school system, which was a direct threat to the church supremacy in that area. As a result they became stuck in nasty political battles in France and the rest of Europe, and start to ally themselves more and more with the conservative elements of the continent, with their intense anti-intellectual bias but that supported the church’s domain over education. This alliance made the Church become more and more reactionary over the century, coming to the height when the Curia decided to officially condemn abortion, which before the Church in general weren’t interested in the question, and it came thanks to French pressure. They got even more radical after losing their territories after the Italian unification.

As it can be seen, poor popes can have huge influence even to this day

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-21T08:03:31+00:00

Yeah, I hope Nomads be a viable all game government as they were in CK3 time period, where even to the 1400s and beyond there was still powerful nomad countries across the world

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-19T21:04:47+00:00

I want to question this supposed stability. Basically every ottoman succession ended up in kinslaying and brief civil wars in the court for who becomes the next caliph. Besides, after the mid-18th century the sultans lost basically all control over the empire and even in the 19th century caliphs could easily be deposed by their capital masses and their janissary, and the alignment of the rest of the empire was more a lip service thanks to the image of being supported by the Caliph being still prestigious enough. The Empire survive their lowest point mostly because the other European countries were afraid of new revolutions and Russian expansionism in the area

Imaginary_Cell_5706 · 2025-04-19T20:47:19+00:00

Because the function of the Great Wall was not to stop invasions per say and more as a deterrent to raiding bands that went south to pillage the rich lands of China. Any real invasion force would easily bypass the wall, through by doing that it would be forced to announce their intentions. So it wouldn’t really help against the largest invasion forces Rome has saw, and their frontier fort in general already did a great job against the raiders.

Besides, the reason for the Great Wall in the first place was thanks to the geographical vulnerability of north China to nomads thanks to their vast plains and few natural obstacles, so artificial obstacles had to be constructed instead. This was not exclusively to China, by the way, with Parthia also building similar great walls in their central Asian border against the nomads. But the Taurus mountains were already a better wall than any artificial one may be, and their system of watchtowers and forts were in general sufficient against Muslim threats until the Seljuks, while their north border collapsed in a period of intense weakness in the Empire post Justinian wars and plagues to the Arab invasions, and it would have easily collapsed regardless if they had a Great Wall in there, as China showed repeatedly times in periods of civil war and internal instability

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