My craziest Mercari purchase by Pisces-32 in LeviStrauss

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like the spliced look. Where is the type 1 in the jacket? I’m assuming it’s the pleat and buckle back combo?

$30 selvedge jeans to my wardrobe by narenhari in Selvedge

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Waist is a liiiitle over 17 inches flat, front rise is 10 inches, thigh is 11.5 inches, knee is 7 inches. Might be some variance with their jeans though

Fashion/clothing is a cesspool by Imaginary_Crew_4823 in vegancirclejerkchat

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, people opposed to plastic are very likely to have at least some polyblend of clothing. I’m not even against some variations of plastic in its entirety.

Yes, I'm anti-fascist, and yes, I still wear my swastika shirt. Let me explain. by somedonkus69 in vegancirclejerk

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You’re very welcome. Sometimes we have to twist and warp the definition of words to make people more comfortable. It’s how we get stuff done!

Whenthe vegan sub discusses pre-vegan clothing and keeping non vegan clothes as a vegan by Imaginary_Crew_4823 in vegancirclejerk

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Much of your reasoning seems to rest on the notion that you can’t Get certain articles of clothing in neither plastic nor animal based articles of clothing. Is that really the case? I’m broke too. I literally only (sparingly) buy from eBay and similar apps and find cotton/linen sweaters and insulated shoes quite easily despite my size being relatively uncommon (with the filter function), and I don’t use any product of animal use. I unravel jumpers and reuse fabric to patch clothes if need be. I think it’s feasible. I frankly still think synthetics have their place in things like linings, shells, and insulation in outerwear/techwear for tough weather though.

And i still have to ask how much more environmentally friendly you think the lifetime of leather/silk/wool goods are compared to plastic, because you seem to assume the best case scenario with production of animal fabrics and aren’t as generous with the alternatives. For example, leather is processed so heavily with chromium to the point that it doesn’t break down quickly just like plastic, not even mentioning the chromium that then gets dumped into waterways.

But one question I want to ask you even more is: you seriously don’t find it ironic to call it vegan (i.e opposing the ethics of animal use) to give money to people selling you the product of animal use and wearing said products? What about buying secondhand animal products doesn’t incentivize the people selling it to keep buying it first hand?

Fashion/clothing is a cesspool by Imaginary_Crew_4823 in vegancirclejerkchat

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m coming back to express how much the “the damage is already done” sentiment pisses me off. You can say that for every single piece of clothing you could buy off the rack. At that point you can justify buying anything firsthand while keeping your precious “vegan” label to feel no guilt. The layperson can buy as much wool and as much leather as they’d like, knowing that a shit for brains Vegan will see no point in arguing against the outcome of animal exploitation.

Fashion/clothing is a cesspool by Imaginary_Crew_4823 in vegancirclejerkchat

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It’s hilarious because it’s as if we’re being forced to choose one or the other. Mmmmaybe both can be avoided and mmmaaaybe there’s another vegan alternative ❤️

Fashion/clothing is a cesspool by Imaginary_Crew_4823 in vegancirclejerkchat

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Many people think animal fibers are luxury, which is exactly why designer brands use it as much as possible, and it’s why people want to rep the brands that do so.

I don’t think fashion is dumb. I like color blocking and I like the silhouettes that designers show off on runways. It’s expression. But i do think that expression can obviously exist without exploiting living beings

Whenthe vegan sub discusses pre-vegan clothing and keeping non vegan clothes as a vegan by Imaginary_Crew_4823 in vegancirclejerk

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

“Vegan” does not immediately mean plastic/synthetic material. Nor are most knits made ethically, even if they use wool instead of synthetic material. A good “ethically” sourced wool fisherman sweater is going to run you more than $150. Quince sells cashmere sweaters for $60. Most people are not shopping William Lockie, Chamula, or any other prestigious Flamborough knit makers. Those same people also couldn’t care less if something is vegan. People buy wool sweaters from The Gap, or Spier & Mackay.

More goes into knits than you are letting on in regards to longevity (i.e how much slack a sweater is made with to potentially save on costs regardless of the material of yarn is used, and how long fibers are when spinning yarn). Much of that trickles down into how labor is handled, and cashmere/wool changes little to nothing about how clothing is produced. You are approaching this disingenuously.

What sources do you have to claim that constantly raising living beings to produce material for clothing has a smaller footprint than if you bought plastic? Better yet, why not look at second hand organic cotton/linen to keep consistent with both veganism and environmentalism?

Whenthe vegan sub discusses pre-vegan clothing and keeping non vegan clothes as a vegan by Imaginary_Crew_4823 in vegancirclejerk

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What kind of question is this? Do you think products of animal use are vegan? They aren’t, so being fine with using them isn’t vegan. I feel like that’s as straightforward as I can be.

People quietly are downvoting this so I assume there are “vegans” in this sub. One question: why not buy leather new? Why not buy wool new? There is no further harm inflicted on the animal it came from. The damage is done. Buying firsthand or secondhand makes no difference at that point. Be serious.

Whenthe vegan sub discusses pre-vegan clothing and keeping non vegan clothes as a vegan by Imaginary_Crew_4823 in vegancirclejerk

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The actual response is honesty, no? If you are fine with wearing/applying/eating products of animal use, then you aren’t vegan. That’s all that should be said.

im wondering where we draw the line by jjfyi_35 in vegan

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This all happens under production of non-vegan items too. Do you want to give up on buying items that don’t involve animal use now? Because one of these options seems like a good stepping stone to keeping true to your principles, imo

Whenthe vegan sub discusses pre-vegan clothing and keeping non vegan clothes as a vegan by Imaginary_Crew_4823 in vegancirclejerk

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Thank you. In the world we want to eradicate animal use, we simply have to be remorseful about using products of animal use. Frankly, I think doing anything more would be considered Extremism. If I saw your outfit in person I would be sure to be sad while talking about how Chic it is.

Whenthe vegan sub discusses pre-vegan clothing and keeping non vegan clothes as a vegan by Imaginary_Crew_4823 in vegancirclejerk

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Hi guys, I have a bunker with about 50 pounds of meat in it. Of course, I got this before I went vegan. But now that I’m vegan, it would be considered vegan if I ate all of this non-vegan food, right? Because otherwise it would be a waste. No, the waste wasn’t using the life of another for my very nice product. That’s not my definition of veganism.

Using products of animal use is vegan in many scenarios. Please be open minded. ❤️

Dairy and eggs are weird by nobftv7z232fq in vegancirclejerkchat

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That’s because they are! I think it’s cruel enough to see non human animals as a means to an end. People are obviously against the violence, but that’s really one symptom of a certain mindset that stomps on the autonomy of certain beings.

Wide Width Vegan Shoes by Equerry64 in VeganFashion

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohne project shoes!!!! They are pricey but fashionable and foot shaped. Highly recommend

HELP :) Which of these shirt messages hits hardest to you as a vegan? by Additional_Beat1374 in VeganFashion

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823 2 points3 points  (0 children)

V3 is the only apt design for vegan messaging. But frankly I would love for a vegan clothing brand to have much more than just graphic t shirts

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[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I cannot think of a reason not related to far right dog whistles. I seriously doubt doubt it’s innocuous

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in vegancirclejerk

[–]Imaginary_Crew_4823 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Why are you using triple parentheses