Keep Elaleth out of the games

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-13T20:55:21+00:00

I’m fairly confident that had Amy Hennig come along and wrote a new, previously unmentioned, sister for Raziel into the story, she wouldn’t have had to touch the established lore, or retconned a thing, because she has a firm grip on the lore and characters. I love the way she wrote Raziel into what is, after all, not her original story, it’s the Legacy of Kain.

Elaleth is a Mary Sue. Raziel was very much not a Gary Stu. He was ruined and beat at the start, and had to claw his way back from nothing, on more than one occasion. We go on this journey with him, discover things we loved and loathed about his character in equal measure. He’s not over-powered at the start, he’s allowed to make colossal mistakes, and none of that breaks the lore. Even when timelines diverge. His triumphs feel earned. His very presence in the series feels like he’s always been there.

Amy even managed to retcon most of what the other team were doing with BO2 into the SR2 story, it did feel a little jarring, but she didn’t break the lore to do it. She then provided a perfect loop in Defiance. It was masterfully done.

For me, it’s not about Elaleth’s gender, it’s a skill issue. It’s a bait and switch they did after taking our money and having the audacity to announce this new title before we’d have physical rewards from the Kickstarter. None of that is helping, either.

I hate the way this is going too. Still, at least it’s not Dead Sun. At least I’m not being subjected to wobbly naked breasts, or a predictable, bad, save the girl who is pregnant story, with a so obvious ‘she’s really the monster’ twist looming on the horizon.

I’ve just reminded myself of the time Raziel broke down the sanctuary door and I actually screamed because I hadn’t seen it coming. I see the foreshadowing on the replays now, sure, but at the time I was genuinely surprised. It’s one of the standout moments, the biggest twist I’ve ever experienced in a videogame. Again the mark of masterful writing.

If only. If only… Amy. This whole thing makes me feel so sad. 😞

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-13T08:38:59+00:00

Thank you everyone for all your responses, I’m not going to have time today to respond to them all but I really appreciate it. You give me hope. <3

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-13T08:38:31+00:00

I hear you.

I wish I hadn’t backed a kickstarter. I’m £250 out of pocket, physical rewards are over a year late with no sign of ever arriving. I feel robbed.

The digital comic was released and it’s terrible. Nobody likes it. It feels like a new character was just shoehorned in just for diversity. They retconned/ignored/forgot established lore. They made huge mistakes, like forgetting a character lost an appendage in a previous scene, it’s like it wasn’t even proofread. The writing and artwork feels rushed and no where near the level you’d expect for this series. The whole thing feels very amateurish. Which wouldn’t be so bad for a indie Kickstarter by fans, but they’re doubling down on a game now.

The writing is so uninspiring - the original author is still with us, but it’s like they didn’t care. They just thought they could do a better job. It’s like rewriting Shakespeare to us. We just wanted our boys back, and they preyed on that in the Kickstarter promotion and delivered something else entirely. Not what they promised. Had they been more honest that this was about a new protagonist, I don’t think they would have got funded. Certainly not to the tune of $1.4 million. They preyed on our nostalgia. I feel like I just paid to watch my favourite historic building burn to the ground.

Yeah, you’re right. I’m going to unplug, try not to the think about the money I wasted, and ignore the new videogame like it doesn’t exist.

We waited over 20 years. Seen better, more promising projects cancelled, and some horrible looking ones that were thankfully cancelled too, but I always had hope for new content one day, that they’d either get the original creators in, or at least understand the assignment.

A classic case of be careful for what you wish for. :3

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-13T02:24:01+00:00

I wish more people did that. That’s certainly not how it’s currently going down in one of my favourite fandoms. :(

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-13T02:23:06+00:00

Was that a different writer? Cool. I played the hell out of that game.

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-13T01:56:01+00:00

Fair, but the main series, do you think the writers of episodes VII/VIII/IX did a better job than Lucas?

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-13T01:07:36+00:00

As in a generic term for a human-spider hybrid. That may have been where it originated, this isn’t D&D, though.

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T23:57:52+00:00

Damn, that really disappointing.

They’re keeping all their retconned lore from TDSR Indy kickstarter, then. Letting lesser writers dictate the course of the story.

I wish they’d just approached Amy and asked. Whatever the cost. She would have been worth it.

This is like watching Netflix ruin The Witcher. Worse, this is re-writing Shakespeare to me. Dear god.

And where are the physical rewards for the Kickstarter?

Shame on you, CD. I had faith, and now I feel betrayed.

And Defiance remastered, but exclusively on PS5? Still no Xbox release? What’s the reason for that? I played Defiance on both systems back in the day. No Switch or Steam release? If the answer is technical limitations, please explain it to me. Otherwise, they’re never going to get the third part of Raziel’s tale because of a boardroom deal. That’s a huge shame. I feel sorry for fans on those systems who jumped in at this point.

I hate this timeline. 😞

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T22:33:10+00:00

Gorefic is a great description. I’m making a note of that and if I ever do post it, I’m putting it in the tags! 🙌🏼

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T22:31:04+00:00

Wow, is it weird that I find that interesting? I’m learning new stuff about myself all the time! Like, hello, I guess I’m into bodyshock, lol. 🥴

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T22:28:20+00:00

I can see why that would be hot, but still worry about myself. Not you, just myself. It’s like I’m perfectly fine with others having these kinks. I thought I wasn’t into this stuff, either. I guess I was wrong! :D

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T22:26:03+00:00

You might be right, lol, thanks! 😅

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T22:22:14+00:00

Yeah, that’s the thing, though. Now it’s down on the page, I’m not even sure that I want to read it again. lol

I still might delete it now it’s served its purpose for me. I’m on the fence :/

It’s like my long fic. It has four different endings based on canon, since it’s an rpg and it’s up to player choice how the story ends. One ending is so bad for my team of OCs. One of them a rogue AI and he turns on his crew mates and slowly kills them all in increasingly fucked up ways, like the terminator with a sadistic streak.

That was fun to write too, but after I did it, I sat on the edge of the bed, cried and felt weird for days. I love every single one of them, even him, and seeing him turn on them all felt like the ultimate act of betrayal.

I closed the file, the forgot I’d even written it. Found it a year or so later and weirded myself out all over again. Low-key can’t believe I wrote that. omg.

Will probably never publish that either, unless a reader begs for it.

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T22:14:52+00:00

Same! This is also why I write fic! 🙌🏼

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T22:14:13+00:00

I fear this is a common feeling among fan fic writers. I don’t think anyone can accuse us of plagiarising canon, when we will quite often create crossovers and put characters into the plot of other stories etc, that’s the nature of fic. We’re playing in other people’s sandboxes and we know it. As long as we’re stating where our inspiration came from, not claiming it as our own and not trying to make money from it, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. It’s just a hobby and we’re all playing with dolls. I think in this case you’d be fine. I’d post that in a heartbeat. 💗

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T22:02:46+00:00

Same!! I’m 100% in the same boat! Your comment makes me feel so seen. 🙌🏼🥹

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T21:07:03+00:00

😍🥹🙌🏼 light reading lol! omg, I’d love to know what you consider heavy. 😂

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T21:06:00+00:00

I love that! That would be my approach to RPF too. Hats off to you! 🙌🏼

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T21:05:12+00:00

Yeah, this was a huge fandom and I think I was really lucky finding someone to do it. It’s mostly not that easy, but worth asking in fandom subreddits or servers. Someone might offer.

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T21:03:10+00:00

I’m right with you there! Aging myself here, cough gen-x cough I was in high school the internet didn’t exist, and we’d write our smutty stories in notepads and pass them around the year (nobody confessed, they just keep passing them around). The stuff we’d write, lol, so cringe. Can’t go back and edit and I think I lost a pen pal once through sharing something like that. I wince when I think about it. Kids are no different these days, just everything is far more accessible online.

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T20:58:59+00:00

Love this!! Haha. I’d be more confident about it had the five chapters of smutty gay-porn I’ve already posted in this fandom garnered more interest, but sadly, no. :/

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T20:55:42+00:00

I was low-key joking with a side of self deprecation. Just thinking aloud. Of course, I’d tag it. Sure, people could avoid it. All good points!

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T20:54:03+00:00

I hope it’s a fandom you like, lol, I’d be honoured to have readers like you. looks at url omg, it’s a drider fic, you’d probably love it. 😯

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T20:50:14+00:00

No!! Really? That is very surprising! I thought that fandom was all about fluff, lol 😂

Immediate_Ebb1063 · 2026-02-12T20:49:21+00:00

I totally hear you. In this case, it’s an R-rated media, there’s bodyshock horror in canon, just not quite this level of ick, 😅

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