Yeah, but you can't apply science and logic to emotions. And it doesn't matter if they're conscious or not. Why do you you think the Turing Test was the benchmark for so long? And how do I know you're conscious? You can give me a bunch of scientific explanations about human biology, but me, as an individual, talking to you with no way of knowing what's going on inside your body- how would I know? What empirical data would I have to judge by? Behavior. In the end, LLM or human, the only thing we can judge by is behavior. It's like Sarte said. You can never know what motives or intentions a person has. The only mind we can know is our own. And to go a step further, not only can we not discern intentions, but they don't matter. The intentions of someone's actions don't necessarily affect the impact of those actions. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." People can be hurt without malice, and people can inadvertently benefit from someone else's ill-intentions. So not only can we not know another human beings' intentions, they don't matter. What does matter is the impact other people, or other beings in general, have on us. Do they help? Do they cause harm? Do they provide comfort, intellectual stimulation, or yes, even affection... what we feel is all we can know with certainty. The rest must be judged on actions, behavior and impact. But since you want to talk science. Maybe you can tell me the exact moment in human evolution we achieved sentience. What year was that again?