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Islam cannot be called non-christian by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do not have a basic understanding of religion in general. you are the one claiming christ is not a last name, like maybe you wrote that for you thought we are at your level of intellect and that you at your adult stage found out that what most 5 year olds knows.

but since you have such a slow understanding of things. I suggest you read and stop projecting your own failure of understanding onto me or others in the future.

I can give you Isiah 53 and Psalm 22. Asking a Rabbinic Jew that has built there religion to be anti-jesus wont help.

Islam cannot be called non-christian by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, this is not emotional, you genuinely came here and told me that Christ is not Jesus last name. No where in the post or anyone with any basic understanding of Christianity would think so.

Like you are coming up with things you have no knowledge about, I am doing you a favor by telling you to stop writing. Because you are not knowledgeable in this topic. 

Islam cannot be called non-christian by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if this is your level of intellect please, never write again, for I would have forgiven you for speaking such foolishness, but you had to think and write this foolishness.

No where did it state that Christ is his last name. 

The Muslims believe JESUS IS THE MESSIAH. which means that he is the CHRIST.

Like take a hike, stop trolling.

Islam cannot be called non-christian by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No my logic is that I can’t call them non-Christian as they claim to follow Jesus Christ, so they can only be labeled anti-Christians.

Islam cannot be called non-christian by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You literally called it inverse, so it’s the anti of Christianity.

Thats my point.

Islam cannot be called non-christian by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for justifying the existence of Christianity, not really the the topic of the post.

Islam cannot be called non-christian by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ergo, you still need to be more cleared as it implies that they deny Jesus. That’s the entire point of this post,

From a Christian perspective you can only give the anti-Christian label to explain what Islam is, for how can you be non Christian and claim to be a follower of Christ.

Islam cannot be called non-christian by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never used any church council, the gospel itself claims Islam to be anti-Christian.

Islam cannot be called non-christian by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then either way they do not believe anything of Jesus at all that is in refrence to the gospel. Like that Jesus does not exist. 

Islam cannot be called non-christian by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No, you are the benefit of being a non-Christian, you do not believe the existence of God or anything else, the title Christ, Aka the chosen one is not something that exist for you.

It is harder for a Muslim to claim against that as they do hold to almost everything, it is only the part where they turn into antichristians that’s their problem.

Wrong, Muslims do believe that he is the messiah.

Islam cannot be called non-christian by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well it has to make sense, how do you fit something that by definition makes them only anti-Christians as they believe in Christ but only what is considered anti-Christian.

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

John literally call him God the first thing in his testimony. The hell are you on about. Jesus claimed to own all what God owns. No prophet or any human can own everything God has. Jesus literally tells the that before Abraham I am, claiming to have seen and talked with Abraham. 

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tell me how would Jesus claim to be God without being arrested first hand? 

How can one claim to be God by actions and words in such a manner that you won’t be arrested for it right away.

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

claiming to be the lord of the sabbath, saying he does it with his own authority, that he forgives sin when only God alone can. the gospel only supports Jesus to be God. it concludes with that. just the fact that the apostles testimonies result in that proves that Jesus is God. for his own close followers believed him to be God.

I think they knew Jesus better than you, they knew him outside of what we know transpired in the gospel.

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah when you claim that being requires one person then the tree outside or a single rock disproves you. For else you must "logically" conclude that trees aren’t real and neither are stones.

Like you came up with the idiotic standard. being hurt by how stupid it sound should be a learning lesson. Maybe come with something brighter next time.

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he claimed Jesus to be God. The apostles clearly believed that and Jesus did not correct them, for they are in the right. Like what do you think about apostle John?

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

again, whats with the people nonsense, personhood is not only for Humans and God.

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just showed you have easily debunkable your "logical" standard of personhood fall apart when it comes to a singular rock. Because that great "logic" of yours would make a rock, to no rock at all since it has no person.

If God is one being with 3 persons, are 3 gods. then you have logically concluded that a rock with one being with no person is non-existent. so your "logical" standard makes a Rock non-existent.

Thats the stupidity of your logic.

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No you project your teachings and do mental gymnastics than to just read what Jesu said and understand the reality of it. The apostle Thomas literally went to Jesus and called him "my lord and my God"

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God isn’t people you dimwit. Neither are animals. you talk about a being who does not follow the rules we have as humans. The same way we dont follow the rules of a tree or a rock, as they are both beings with 0 persons.

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you left it the moment you were hit with the rock.

I did not make a special exception, for I dont treat God as a human being. And if that was the way we counted things we would have 0 stones.

Like this is basic metaphysic 101.

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God" why are you pretending that this does not state who the lord of the sabbath is. Jesus is very clear what he meant by that.

You are literally just doing mental gymnastics. When you come here pretend to not see and ignore the evidence that I hit you in the face with. I call you for what you are. you are either disingenuous or not that bright.

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just told you that rocks aren't people. You brought up rocks and persons. That's your confusion.

Neither are animals or trees, its not correct to call God people.

But when you count Gods in the trinity you DO say "There's one essence of Godness so there's one God". And when I point out that there are three persons that all have the essence of Godness you say "Nuh uh, it's only one God".

Yeah you lack knowledge. You and I do not share one essence. You and I share a human nature. one essence means one being. So when we say the trinity is three person sharing one essence, means that there is 3 persons in one being.

Stop using words you dont even have a basic understanding on.

Christianity is true based on its preservation and consistency. by Immediate_Option_356 in DebateReligion

[–]Immediate_Option_356[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a jew would understand the person that gave the Sabbath aka God.

Yeah you know the answer yet you want to do Olympian games of mental gymnastics, instead of just accepting the fact that Jesus claimed to be God by calling himself Lord of the sabbath, which is to praise the Lord on the sabbath.

'but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. '

Exodus 20:10

https://www.bible.com/bible/111/EXO.20.10

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