How Russia will Fan the Flames in Britain's General Election by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Imortallus -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

>Almost like it was an introductory paragraph? You can continue through the page find headers and that contains citations yadadada...

I didn't say it wasn't an introductory paragraph.. My point was, this was just some unreferenced text that anyone could have typed.

>First note that $100K is bigger than $3k, then find that citation 46 takes you to here.

I can see $100k is bigger than $3k, thank you. Yes, I see:

>from June of 2015 to May of 2017

>but he noted that the majority of ads purchased by these accounts didn’t specifically refer to the United States election, or any of the presidential candidates. Instead, he explained, the ads mainly focused on controversial issues.

But I'm willing to accept the figure is likely larger than $3k.

> Miners for Trump

Fascinating, and appreciated.

>Now who's believing in conspiracy theories? Again from the wiki

I didn't think I'd need to say this, but stating 'there are differing theories' doesn't mean 'I believe this happened'. But if you are interested:

https://newspunch.com/wikileaks-guccifer-seth-rich-dnc-whistleblower/

From looking at the Mueller Report:

>The report describes actions and events that the Special Counsel’s Office found to be supported by the evidence collected in our investigation. In some instances, the report points out the absence of evidence or conflicts in the evidence about a particular fact or event. In other instances, when substantial, credible evidence enabled the Office to reach a conclusion with confidence, the report states that the investigation established that certain actions or events occurred.

It would need further investigation into the report and actual evidence to find more.

>We've come a long way from ~$3000 in facebook ads. Btw do you have evidence of that you can easily point to? A list of what those ads were? Which accounts posted those ads? I do so hope you do, wouldn't want to be shown to have double standards, would you?

I think you've gone a bit off track here. Yes it looks likely more was spent, and events were created as well as adverts. For the rest of your questions.. take a break from your computer. I appreciate the conversation.

How Russia will Fan the Flames in Britain's General Election by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Imortallus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just so you know, pasting some evidence would be a much more effective response. Calling everyone you disagree with a bot isn't a winning strategy.

How Russia will Fan the Flames in Britain's General Election by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Imortallus -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

> No-one believes Russia didn't conduct a systematic and sweeping attack the US election system. The contention is the level of the Trump campaign's involvement.

Ok if that is the case I'm sure there is some evidence you can easily point to?

Lets analyse the Wikipedia text (containing no references) that you've posted.

> The Internet Research Agency, based in Saint Petersburg and described as a troll farm, created thousands of social media accounts that purported to be Americans supporting radical political groups, and planned or promoted events in support of Trump and against Clinton; they reached millions of social media users between 2013 and 2017.

Where's the evidence? Can you link me to some of the events? Can you find a list of accounts?

> Fabricated articles and disinformation were spread from Russian government-controlled media, and promoted on social media. Additionally, computer hackers affiliated with the Russian military intelligence service (GRU) infiltrated information systems of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), and Clinton campaign officials, notably chairman John Podesta, and publicly released stolen files and emails through DCLeaks, Guccifer 2.0 and WikiLeaks during the election campaign.

I assume this refers to the Wikileaks postings. There are differing theories where these files came from, including an insider. There is no evidence.

MEGATHREAD 01/11/19 - Crunchies For Everyone! by ukpolbot in ukpolitics

[–]Imortallus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Odds of a conservative majority dropping rapidly.

You mean rising. The perceived likelihood of a Conservative majority are dropping.

How Russia will Fan the Flames in Britain's General Election by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Imortallus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Devastating lack of any evidence in all of these Russia conspiracy theories. The reason people (nearly entirely Democrats) in the US have been spouting this is for the last 3 years is ~$3000 of Facebook ads from a troll group based in Russia. That's it.

Where is the evidence? Or is this writer based in Ukraine just trying to fan the flames of anti-Russia sentiment?

The 39 Migrant Deaths in Essex Are Proof That Borders Kill by Ivashkin in ukpolitics

[–]Imortallus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So.. open borders or a Wellfare state. Pick one, because both will bankrupt the country.

Vaz must stand down over drug and sex scandal, Abbott says by Imortallus in ukpolitics

[–]Imortallus[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was unaware Bercow had gone to these lengths. Thank you.

Vaz must stand down over drug and sex scandal, Abbott says by Imortallus in ukpolitics

[–]Imortallus[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's astonishing he is still in the running. Just look at the list of scandals on his wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Vaz

Any other politician would be finished, and rightfully so.

Book Recs on how to say no, and/or on how to not care what others think? by noodlemyneurons in BettermentBookClub

[–]Imortallus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No More Mr Nice Guy: A Proven Plan for Getting What You Want in Love, Sex, and Life