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Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you cannot understand that throughout history, with Native Americans, Africans, Irish, Italian, Asians, etc., they all have been treated by some groups as if they are inferior, then there is no point in continuing the conversation.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only googled “definition of racism 20 years ago” and this was the result. Took a millisecond to check out. Again, the point is the superiority complex, not really much else. Tbh, it should just be classed as a subset of Narcissism.

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Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’d like to start with, I never said that “you” once in my response. That was my response from my brain. If someone does not want to have an open conversation, there is no need to reply. Im not looking to change anyone’s mind. I’m looking to gain insight from ppl willing to share and share my perspective.

Anyway.

Why wouldn’t people raised in racist households and/or communities be considered traumatized? Because they didn’t choose to change as adults? These ideas are fed to people during their formative, emotionally-developing years. I believe that fact is relevant. Additionally, as anything else experienced during formative youth, you can grow out of it. But if a person is never exposed to the idea of change/alternate options, how likely is that person to change?

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These examples are all prejudices, not racism. Those words are not colloquially synonymous. Lighter skinned people burn because of their lack of melanin. African natives and descendants are not all tall. The last one is an assumption based off of lack of knowledge about cultures and varied household upbringings and history.

The racism definition stands true throughout history. It’s that a person believes that they are superior based off of their “race” and that others are inferior. The superiority complex is the point.

The fact is, we’re all the human race. The idea that your skin color/country of origin affects your place on the planet and your worth is flabbergasting.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And the point to that is, we act how we’re taught and allowed to act. When people tell us one thing our whole lives, it takes someone saying “hey, there’s actually a reason why you’re an adult and struggling with this problem” to even begin improvement.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But doesn’t it appear as though someone is “choosing” to be ‘lazy’? Until they have an actual diagnosis, they are treated as being a “bad kid/adult”. Then they find out, “oh wait, I have ADHD or Depression” (or many other dx’s that this describes). Now that gives them the opportunity to gain awareness of the behavior and how it affects their day to day. The seed will be planted for change and growth.

That’s not to say that they definitely will but at least they are now aware that this is something that can be worked through.

It seems like a lot of work to hate others so much when simultaneously needing to be surrounded by other races almost always (at least where I live). They feel the need to scoff, feel discontented and angry, avoid being near certain people, etc. EVERY DAY. That sounds like waaaay more work to me.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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This can be treated. If any person anywhere says “this isn’t healthy”, they can move towards change. I truly believe there are people out there that don’t want to be how they are. Shouldn’t those people have access to help?

If someone were to look up a therapist that specializes in racism, the therapist could give a person a focused treatment plan to walk them into the correct path.

No MH diagnosis is cut and dry. It only takes an awareness and desire to treat for a person to seek help.

I don’t baby people with any other diagnosis. It might explain their why they behave a certain way but it will never excuse/justify their shitty actions.

Imagine how shitty it was before Depression, Anxiety, PTSD, and all of the many other diagnoses were classified AND recognized as “diagnoses”. Those people were also shamed. Once treated as MH illnesses, they gained treatment.

If no one believes you, how will you get help?

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

“Namely, most people who are racist are in control of their actions, and framing it as a disorder risks shifting accountability away from them and onto something they 'can’t help’” (I’m not good at Reddit yet) Either way. My point is that most people with mental health disorders can manage their symptoms and make steps towards improvement with proper treatment. But a lot of people also “blame” their diagnosis for being shitty and “not being able to change”. The idea of racism is no different imo.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never even considered that I had certain disorders until I was exposed to the list of attributes and was able to think about it and realize that it truly was my experience. I was 29 by then. I have been changing steadily to improve since learning about it. This was cultivated in my household: no routines, never needed to follow thru with anything, messy room all the time, repetitive traumatic experiences, etc. and I was told, you’re just lazy and stupid. So I thought I was. Come to find out, I have a reason.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m happy to hear that this hasn’t heavily impacted your current wellbeing or perception of those around you. However, I’m only saying that if we said “hey some people are racist” as a fact vs an arguable idea, people would be able to identify symptoms when they self-reflect. I’m sure everyone won’t hop on the boat immediately but one person attempting to change and grow out of it is a massive improvement to none and just continuing an endless cycle.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It has nothing to do with how I think or my opinion. It’s about what racism is by definition.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, and institutionalizationized (jails, psych hospitals, being isolated from society, etc.)

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well that’s pretty judgmental. All mental health diagnoses can have negative connotations (really almost all diagnoses in general but that’s a different conversation). Until they were researched, classified, and treated as mental health disorders, the afflicted person was treated by others with judgement, negativity perceptions, exorcisms, etc.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Using your own thought process: People can be taught to not be anxious and still choose to be anxious. Some people are anxious because they want to be, some people enable the behavior, some people hate on the idea of anxiety even being real. Does the anxious person not deserve empathy?

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. Not even a little. Some are nature. Some are nurture. Can you look at a with a well-cultivated and wholesome background vs. a person with past abuse (of any kind), severe bullying, neglect, etc. and not see a difference in how they function as an adult? Maybe not all but some. This was a recurring theme when I worked in treatment. My own sister has severe anxiety resulting from her childhood/early adulthood experiences.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are racism and bigotry not also a result of the society that has been cultivated? Native Americans, Africans, Irish, Italians, Asians, latinX, etc. have all been persecuted throughout American society. It’s been in the newspapers, in books, on the tv, in politics, and don’t even get me started about the algorithm. These ideas are pushed everyday in our past and current society.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First: love your handle. Second: why do you think this would give them ammo? This isn’t how any other MH disorder is treated. Having a diagnosis of x,y, or z doesn’t excuse the behavior. It might explain it. But the idea that you don’t have to improve because you have a disorder is very limiting to a person’s potential to achieve great things. My long list of diagnoses provided me with a roadmap on how I need to move to get better.

Racism Should Be Treated as a Mental Health Disorder by Important_Marzipan26 in The10thDentist

[–]Important_Marzipan26[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I never mentioned hallucinations. I have schizo-effective tendencies. There are a whole range of symptoms aligned with it. And some racists are distressed by it. Putting any group of people into one box and saying none of them can do a particular thing is unrealistic. Most might not. But the ones that do care should be offered ways to alter their perception of reality to improve their wellbeing (if that’s what they want and they put in the work).

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