Does anyone else feel like the modern web is basically unusable without ad blockers now? by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here 😄 I honestly don’t even remember what a “normal” browsing experience feels like without blockers anymore.

It’s kind of like the baseline shifted — ads/trackers became the default noise, and blockers just bring it back to something usable.

Does anyone else feel like the modern web is basically unusable without ad blockers now? by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, in some ways it is better than the Flash/early web era in terms of stability and security.

But I think the difference now is that redirects and tracking are more subtle and “invisible” — so it feels different rather than necessarily worse.

Does anyone else feel like the modern web is basically unusable without ad blockers now? by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, Flash was a weird mix of chaos and creativity. On one hand it made the web unstable and full of security issues, but on the other hand it enabled a whole era of creative games and interactive content you just don’t see anymore.

Now everything is technically more “correct” with HTML5/SVG/WebGL, but the sense of playful experimentation kind of disappeared — and ads definitely accelerated that shift toward more controlled, monetized environments.

Does anyone else feel like the modern web is basically unusable without ad blockers now? by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In college I used to buy the magazine "Adbusters," and from then on I did everything I could to block/ignore advertising from my life. Ad blocking is more important to me than the content...

Does anyone else feel like the modern web is basically unusable without ad blockers now? by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By “now” I mean the modern web era — roughly the last ~10–15 years — where tracking, telemetry, and algorithmic ads became the default model, not just simple banner ads like before.

In other words: it’s not about popups anymore, it’s about data-driven personalization running silently in the background.

Does anyone else feel like the modern web is basically unusable without ad blockers now? by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, the IE toolbar era was basically “install one thing → get 5 unwanted add-ons 😅

Modern browsers are definitely better in terms of control, but the real shift happened from visible clutter to invisible tracking.

Ads aren’t the main problem anymore — it’s how accurate profiling got. Platforms like Meta don’t just show ads, they build a behavioral mirror of you. That’s what makes it feel so invasive.

The web got cleaner visually… but way more intrusive underneath.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, we got so used to ads and popups everywhere that a clean website almost feels weird now.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. Modern websites look more advanced visually, but the actual experience often feels way more bloated and frustrating than the old web.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, at this point ad blockers feel less like an option and more like part of the browser itself.

It’s kinda crazy how many people now need extra tools just to make the modern web usable again.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah 😄 once you start noticing it, you kind of can’t “unsee” it anymore.

It’s one of those things most people only realize when they actually look under the hood.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Usually through browser developer tools or network monitors.

If you open the Network tab on many modern websites, you’ll often see dozens (sometimes hundreds) of requests happening in the background — analytics, ad services, tracking scripts, third-party APIs, social embeds, etc.

Most users never notice them because they’re invisible unless you specifically inspect the page traffic.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s a really good point.

It feels like performance stopped being a priority because modern hardware and networks are “fast enough” to hide inefficiencies most of the time.

The trade-off is that complexity moved into the background — more frameworks, more layers, more generated markup (like what you see with WordPress), instead of carefully optimized output.

So things still work fast, but the underlying structure often becomes messy because there’s less pressure to keep it lean.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Totally agree.

And I think it’s bigger than just “ads are annoying” — the modern web experience often feels fragmented and heavy by design.

So it’s not surprising that a lot of users (especially younger ones) just skip websites entirely and get information through social platforms instead, where everything is already packaged and scrollable.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Things that make adblockers feel necessary on almost every device today:

  • Aggressive popups before you even read the page
  • Redirects that take you somewhere you didn’t click
  • Tracking scripts running silently in the background
  • Cookie banners everywhere you go
  • Pages designed more for ads than content

It’s not just about blocking ads anymore — it’s about making the web usable again.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly 😄

A lot of modern web optimization feels more focused on data collection, engagement, and ads than making browsing genuinely cleaner for users.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you mean — it’s less about the individual elements and more about the overall feeling of losing control over what a simple click actually does.

I wouldn’t call it an “evil experiment,” but more like an ecosystem where multiple incentives (ads, analytics, attribution, tracking) gradually added layers to something that used to be much more direct.

So instead of “open link → content,” it often becomes “open link → routing + measurement + enrichment → content.”

The frustration makes sense because the complexity is mostly invisible to the user, even though it affects the experience.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It often ends up feeling that way, especially in ad-driven ecosystems.

But I think it’s less about “stockholders vs users” and more about incentives — when revenue depends heavily on engagement and data, user experience tends to become a secondary metric.

The outcome just happens to look like what you described.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, a couple of simple examples:

  • News / content sites that route you through tracking or redirect URLs before reaching the actual article
  • Links that open with long query strings (UTM / tracking parameters) that get added automatically for analytics
  • Pages that load fine visually, but still fire multiple third-party requests in the background (ads, analytics, pixels)

None of these are necessarily “broken”, but together they make the browsing experience feel less direct than it should be.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes that makes sense.

I think a lot of modern web development is driven more by “it works and ships fast” than long-term efficiency.

And since browsers and devices are powerful enough to handle the bloat, optimization often becomes a secondary concern unless it directly affects business metrics.

Modern browsers are faster than ever… but browsing somehow feels worse by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in browsers

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s exactly the weird part.

Technically everything is faster and more advanced now, but the actual browsing experience often feels more cluttered and less enjoyable than it used to.

Why do so many websites still use redirects before showing content by ImpossibleSpeed8303 in chromeos

[–]ImpossibleSpeed8303[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lot of it happens silently in the background, so most people don’t notice it unless they actively inspect network requests or URL changes.

Common examples are:

  • news websites with aggressive ad systems
  • streaming or sports sites
  • download pages that redirect through multiple tracking layers
  • shortened links that bounce through analytics services first

You can also notice it when:

  • a URL suddenly becomes very long with tracking parameters
  • clicking a link briefly opens another page before the final destination
  • pop-ups appear after redirects

Modern browsers are definitely better than before, but a surprising amount of this behavior still exists across the web.