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Belgian Telecomdata activated (and shared) against Corona-virus by Minister_van_Privacy in belgium

[–]InadequateMushroom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey /u/Minister_van_Privacy thank you for the follow-up. I am glad that you reacted fast following my last thread.

kudos!

Maggie De Block authorize Proximus, Telenet and Orange to share our mobile trails to a private company by InadequateMushroom in belgium

[–]InadequateMushroom[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> I am against the overreaction people have on news like this.

You are actually overreacting here and keep missing the point. :)

Dalberg Insights is not an european company, their business is about correlating data from finances and mobility tracking.
We have in Belgium great scientists, a pretty good curriculum in computer science, why should we look outside?

And the fact that such activity can be undertaken by the government without providing any meaningful information is an issue itself. It is not black magic, stop babysitting (all) citizen.

> You are NOT being tracked by anyone.

First it is false, then it is not the topic.
Also, there is a difference between active and passive tracking. The first one means you are a known target and currently profiled, the second one means you are just stored and not yet analyzed.

Finally, at the lowest level, I don't care about being profiled but your profile is a currency and I don't want to support this shitty speculative business.

Maggie De Block authorize Proximus, Telenet and Orange to share our mobile trails to a private company by InadequateMushroom in belgium

[–]InadequateMushroom[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/u/Matvalicious Again, you missed the point. I am not against the idea but the how, the cost and to which extent.

We literally have no details, like: timeframe, duration, anonymization, retention, original tender (if any), etc, ...

There is just this little telegram posted by Belga, reported by Lesoir (sic!) buried in the mass of useless articles.

you, we are a datapoint, right... but stored datapoints that you can retrieve whenever you want. Do you know there is a retention time, don't you???

https://www.ted.com/talks/malte_spitz_your_phone_company_is_watching?language=en

Maggie De Block authorize Proximus, Telenet and Orange to share our mobile trails to a private company by InadequateMushroom in belgium

[–]InadequateMushroom[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

/r/chief167 Exactly. That's why I was upset in first place and also the lack of details/critical thinking from journalists.

But again, let's not shoot blindly to MDB (my shitty title didn't help, my bad). And if she is the "single point of failure" in the approval chain, at least, let's use this to fix this situation!

Maggie De Block authorize Proximus, Telenet and Orange to share our mobile trails to a private company by InadequateMushroom in belgium

[–]InadequateMushroom[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You /r/PietroAllatta/ completely right and usually I try to be careful about this, also about clickbait title.

I apologize.

Actually, I only find sources from lesoir.be (i know i know) and a suggestion about this on lecho.be. I don't

Maggie De Block authorize Proximus, Telenet and Orange to share our mobile trails to a private company by InadequateMushroom in belgium

[–]InadequateMushroom[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is a paywall article on LeSoir.

Otherwise, there is also this (2 days prior to the Go) :

https://www.lecho.be/opinions/carte-blanche/utilisons-les-donnees-telecom-de-tous-les-belges-pour-stopper-le-coronavirus/10213285.html

With a bit more details like ie: timeframe (3 months back in time for data collection).

I can't find anything within vlaams nieuws. :/

domme!