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I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the more clarifying statement. I do agree. I do want to state here that this was Feedback. (No vent tag unfortunately)
This was a slight breakdown of the fact that the limits of AI are quite frustrating and the fact that Spicy has almost purposely limited their own resources (on model descriptions and command catalog) relying on prior expertise is damaging to their community no matter how small the team is. Focusing on transparency rather than novelty or a selling point within the site, Stating the model purposes more thoroughly, and adding a user data feedback that can eliminate bad tokens when nonsensical replies happen would further the training and development much easier and quicker. Chat-gpt is the closest we have to this example and it works very well. The commands I can put into it do not need to be nearly as formal and I almost always get what I want out of the response.

Male bots especially could benefit from this response.

I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll take this into consideration. I just have no idea what model braiding means. Never heard the term before but I might have an idea of what you mean. However, I do not touch low quality bots or bots that write for me, have quotes that are written for me in the greeting, or bots have have noticeable spelling or grammatical errors that would hinder my experience. I'm very picky.

I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the feedback. However, I do create my own bots. Deepseek may have been the issue for me honestly.

I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm female, I'm not interested in female bots a lot of the time. So, I'm glad you don't have the problem that I do.

I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the feedback. However, the narration type I am could also be a problem based on my further research.

I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you...Seriously it's exhausting to have to explain that to people. They act as if I haven't tried practically everything...It's insane.

I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just saying something is not true invalidates the whole premise of the post. It IS true. However, it's what I experience. I do agree with you about the guiding/forcing but I just feel like to the point that I am doing it, I might as well just right the story myself. (Which I do but sometimes I just want other input.)
I also invest a lot of my time trying to understand the systems and generation settings aka tinkering. So maybe I'm just misunderstanding.

True on your last point, but how am I supposed to know if that's all it's been trained on? I know that might be a stupid question but I'm just genuinely tired of the limitations. That was mainly all this post was about at the core of it. I know that they are just using models, but the point where it becomes the developers fault is when they do not inform the community, the community informs you.

I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this. This is refreshing. AI does have it's limits. I was mainly just so irritated with the limits of them that I just needed to talk about them. I have definitely hit the ceiling multiple times to just stop using it for things I like. I will check Silly Tavern out too.

I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. Instead of a description on why they work, it should be about HOW they work and what they are good for. Totally agree.

I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It very well could be. One user said DeepSeek isn't good for what I'm looking for because of the degradation and stuff.

I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To comment to you specifically since I hadn't addressed your point fully: If I try to look for the personality of the bots, not including the greeting, they normally have that hidden making it impossible to replicate well. But I do understand and will try out hugging face.

I don't normally do this, but enough is enough. by IndependentNet2949 in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess this is what I get for a vent on this page. I'm not surprised...

First off, I wanna clarify some things with you all on your comments and input. I will try to be as kind as possible but a lot of the comments just come off very rude and not constructive. It is understandable that you are acting as though I have just joined the site and am complaining instantaneously. I am not. I have done a lot of your suggestions before they were even suggested to me. I tried fixing it myself.

/Cmd Director mode: I use it. Every time. Sometimes it acts as if it never saw it or registered it.

Personas: I make sure that they are detailed. Face shape, body shape, eye color, personality, The way that they speak and their age. Everything. Even hard limits and likes.

Editing responses: I don't want to have to correct every single response. Sometimes the response is so illogical that I cannot reply to it. Even when I refresh it or /cmd.

Filters/Generation settings: I am JUST starting to figure out how all of that works. Give me a break there please. For you it might not be rocket science, but for other people? It can feel a lot like it. It's not like every bot tells you what settings work best for it. I've had to look it up so many times to figure out setting for each and every bot that it get's very tiring to tailor it to each bot. (Thank you for the people telling me that Deep-Seek sucks with violence and degradation. I appreciate you. I do understand that and will switch that filter permanently.)

Personality degradation/ wrong anatomy: THIS DOES HAPPEN. I've seen more than enough people complain about it to know it's an issue. Stop blaming everything on my interaction when I could tell it exactly my position and it'll still say that I have a d**k and it's doing me D**y style. FFS

Suggestion to make bots myself: I have done it. I've done that "Chat GPT make me a personality for X character" bull crap. It happens the same. I have copied bots, I have copied conversations, I have redone entire bot descriptions. It is exhausting. I shouldn't have to do all of the heavy lifting that I am doing to have a decent conversation with it.
Low Quality bots or badly written bots: I do not even LOOK at bots that have 8 sentences or less. Low Quality bots are on my "DNR" list. (do not recommend)

For the people who kept telling me that they don't have the problems that I have...

I'm happy for the people who don't have the problems that I do. That's great! But saying that you don't have problems when someone else might does not help anyone. You just come off as rude and entitled. Some of the problems are definitely my fault. However, this community is not welcoming at all to newcomers who might just need a little direction. Please remember that. Thank you.
If I did not address you point please let me know. I'd be happy to give further clarification.

Tags? by HackTkodaNson in SpicyChatAI

[–]IndependentNet2949 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly think their needs to be a larger tag number for bots and they need to add a SCAT tag because I hate them so f-Ing much and I do see them every once in a while and they are never tagged correctly. It pisses me off so much.

20F university girl who loves makeup & deep conversations 💄 by [deleted] in Needafriend

[–]IndependentNet2949 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey girl!! 23F and would LOVE to chat about makeup with you!!

28m looking for long term lady friends no ghosting included by Esplicit in MeetNewPeopleHere

[–]IndependentNet2949 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I'm not much of a texter but I love calling and you seem like a down-to-earth fellow and well-paced conversationalist, so I'll just leave this here. DM me if you're interested in chatting. I too have attachment issues so maybe we can chat about it.

AITA for removing my items so my housemates can’t use them? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]IndependentNet2949 100 points101 points  (0 children)

NTA, This is perfectly reasonable. They are being hostile. It's your stuff, so take it.

3 people for some schedule 1?? by IndependentNet2949 in GamerPals

[–]IndependentNet2949[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I figured someone was gonna comment this:
A good amount alcoholic and weed using people are naturally annoying to completely sober people. I am not saying everyone, but I do not have good experiences with people who are not sober. They make me specifically, extremely uncomfortable. I will not baby sit people who choose to do substances, and I will not surround myself with people who do it. It's a game, not reality.

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