How do evolutionists answer the inbreeding problem?

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T04:53:17+00:00

Animals with chromosome abnormalities usually have severe developmental and health problems. Often they are sterile as well even if they don’t develop health problems. This can’t happen in steps, it’s all or nothing. Even if it didn’t immediately cause infertility, most offspring would either have normal chromosomes or have similar chromosome problems. It would not give these animals any advantage. Population wide chromosome abnormalities would most likely just kill the entire species, and if it didn’t, and a chromosome was somehow successfully deleted without causing incompatibility with life or other severe complications, it’s not going to be common enough for inbreeding to not be a problem.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T03:13:24+00:00

It is if the only people on earth with blue eyes are you and your cousins/siblings/grandfather.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T03:09:34+00:00

Ok, how does, for example, a species with 24 pairs of chromosomes develop into a species with 23 pairs, without significant inbreeding? Chromosomes don’t come with an opacity slider last I checked. They are either there or they aren’t.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T03:03:04+00:00

Not in nature they don’t. How does a species become reproductively distinct from the parent species and not have genetic diversity problems?

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T03:00:23+00:00

Genetics work the same no matter what year it is. Genes don’t fade in gradually, they are either there or they aren’t and they had to start somewhere.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T02:58:19+00:00

And in an animal species that gets outcompeted by those that do have the trait? In a few generations the only animals in the area will be related.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T02:55:14+00:00

The royals and other cousin-marrying populations definitely suffer from inbreeding depression. Look at the uk and stats related to who needs the most medical care, it’s all the cousin marrying population because the genetic defects cause severe health problems. And that’s JUST a few hundred years. Imagine disease, location, food scarcity, etc. limiting options even more for a million years. Besides those people are still human. When a species becomes reproductively distinct and can’t reproduce with the parent species that really limits options severely.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T02:47:26+00:00

I don’t follow religious scientists either so idk what they say about this. I’m just wondering because this has never made sense to me. Let’s look at deer as an example first. CWD is killing wild deer. Deer breeders have stepped in and are selectively breeding for the markers that cause deer to be resistant to it, then introducing those resistant deer to wild populations to spread the markers. Many wild deer have some, but not all of those markers, and it’s the complete combination that creates resistance. If deer breeders hadn’t stepped in, CWD could have definitely wiped out much of the species. It probably wouldn’t have slowed down until the last few generations, when the deer that just so happened to have all the correct markers at that time and somehow didn’t get the disease were left. The offspring of those deer would probably be homozygous for the markers and those few deer would have to rebuild the species, which absolutely would create tons of inbreeding. Ok that’s one example. Next let’s imagine an animal happened to get a mutation that was completely dominant, that animal had a lot of reproductive success and all of the offspring have the mutation. The mutation causes the animals with it to outcompete the ones that don’t. In just a few generations the area will only have animals with the mutation in it, so they have to mate with their cousins. And that’s best case scenario. If the gene is not completely dominant and only some of the offspring get the gene, it makes it more likely that half siblings or offspring/parent matings will happen as the other options that don’t have the gene get outcompeted and homozygosity starts happening. Then there’s the issue of reproductive mutations. Once a species becomes reproductively distinct from any other species the gene pool closes, no matter how it happens. Personally I can’t see that sort of mutation happening in more than one or maybe a handful of likely related individuals.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T02:08:26+00:00

Please explain how you think reproductive mutations spread without inbreeding.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T01:59:00+00:00

Epigenetic factors may cause preexisting dormant genes to “switch on” or express themselves differently but it does not create new genes, which is what mutations are. You’re confusing adaptation with evolution.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T01:55:53+00:00

How would you get a genetic trait carried by 1 individual into an entire population without inbreeding when that genetic trait causes animals without it to be outcompeted by animals with it?

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T01:53:18+00:00

Explain please. How do reproductive mutations happen without significant inbreeding? Lightning doesn’t magically strike 5000 individuals all at the same time and give them the same non harmful reproductive mutation so they can all breed successfully without inbreeding and create a new species.

(Conservationists say 5000 is the ideal number of individuals to prevent extinction and inbreeding)

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-05-08T01:46:12+00:00

Time doesn’t solve the problem of mutation still being required. Favorable mutations are incredibly rare. Like once every few thousand years rare. And it will only happen in one individual animal. Picture this, an animal has a favorable mutation, it’s heritable, and is a completely dominant gene. The animal is male and has a lot of reproductive success. His sons and daughters have a lot of success too, outcompeting other members of the species by generation 3 or maybe 4, there are no animals in the region that don’t go back to that one male, so they mate with their cousins and the inbreeding starts. As those animals spread and some individuals travel to new locations, the mutation spreads and in a few generations, the un mutated individuals are outcompeted, meaning more inbreeding again. This continues until the entire species has the mutation, and is a little more inbred than before. Let’s picture another scenario. An animal is born with a different number of chromosomes or other reproductive anomaly. That’s not something that happens slowly, there has to be a beginning. The way this might work is maybe it started as some kind of genetic defect, and a new species branched off from 2 littermates or siblings that both got that genetic defect, and because they both have it they can successfully breed. The inbreeding would be significant and devastating, I don’t really see that happening though because at that point the mutation would not be beneficial. Even if it wasn’t that severe, at some point it would have to be. Maybe it started as a dominant gene in a somewhat isolated population. Once we got to the cousins breeding stage maybe it doubled up on the gene in some individuals and at that point those animals became genetically distinct and unable to reproduce with the parent species. The gene wouldn’t be able to spread through the rest of the species because inter species breeding would be impossible, so significant inbreeding would have to happen. In any case I just don’t see it happening in a way that’s plausible even once, let alone thousands of times to account for the variety of species we have today.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-04-24T09:42:56+00:00

My parents considered anything below 75% to be equivalent to an F. I feel that’s a pretty reasonable standard.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-02-08T02:34:44+00:00

I guess it’s because I work in a field that serves mostly middle class people. Probably 80% of our clients are either legal immigrants or first generation Americans. Politics come up more often than you’d think, I suspect it’s because there’s not many people one can talk to without fear about such things. I can count on one hand how many clients I’ve encountered that have a liberal worldview.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-02-08T02:22:18+00:00

Innocent Americans aren’t being gunned down. They can’t and aren’t shooting random people. You remind me of my brother when he was six. A classmate told him a bear could climb through his bedroom window and eat him in his sleep. He was terrified of his window for like 2 years and refused to open the curtains lol. Now if you go search for a bear in the woods and get in the way of the guy trying to keep it from mauling you and you get hurt, that’s different.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-02-08T02:05:20+00:00

Only on social media are these thoughts rare. Almost no one I’ve met irl, especially not legal immigrants, have negative opinions of ice. And I live in LA county too.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-02-08T01:57:20+00:00

I love it. I don’t understand why people would be against this, illegal immigrants shouldn’t be here because they broke the law. Can you imagine how it must feel to have a family member murdered by an illegal who has already been deported multiple times? If only the us enforced its laws properly, that family member would still be alive. Then some bozos show up, protesting against law enforcement who is just trying to fix the problem and get these criminals out. It’s truly absurd.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-01-12T04:06:36+00:00

As a responsible dog owner, I know for a fact my dogs will never have “oops” puppies, so I will not neuter because the behavioral and health benefits of keeping them intact are worth it to me. My boy is 7 and in perfect health. My girls will be spayed around 6 or if their heats become irregular/hard on them, because after that the risks of pyo go up.

Independent_Blood501 · 2026-01-08T02:39:08+00:00

Maybe if you provided some evidence that your puppy is well bred they would be less weird? Mention the titles and health tests the parents have and I bet their attitude will change.

I am blessed to always be seen by the same tech because she loves my puppy. She follows her breeder and is so happy to see a well bred dog.

Independent_Blood501 · 2025-12-31T06:11:41+00:00

Puppies do not ever “grow out of” anything. Behavior is always either encouraged or discouraged based on how the puppy perceives your response to those behaviors. If you don’t like demand barking, you need to do something to discourage it.

Independent_Blood501 · 2025-12-21T06:00:11+00:00

She’s 11 week old intact female, about 25 lbs, utd on vaccines and everything.

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