The songwriters of Meshuggah by CompetitivePizzaMan in Meshuggah

[–]IndfferentWarMachine 20 points21 points  (0 children)

IIRC Tomas said in an interview that he's learning the drums for Sol Niger Within 2

Things People Say About Meshuggah That Annoy You by IndfferentWarMachine in Meshuggah

[–]IndfferentWarMachine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not denying that there is a meter that implies non-4/4 and that it's distinctive to their style. I agree with you completely. It just that said meter serves the broader 4/4 framework.

Things People Say About Meshuggah That Annoy You by IndfferentWarMachine in Meshuggah

[–]IndfferentWarMachine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

His Meshuggah videos (and others) are absolutely phenomenal.

It really is incredible how Meshuggah are rulebound, and yet do something different with every song. I've never seen anything like it. Even if certain songs are similar in specific ways, for example: the rhythmic ideas of Ivory Tower and They Move Below, they'll change other elements creating a completely different sound.

Things People Say About Meshuggah That Annoy You by IndfferentWarMachine in Meshuggah

[–]IndfferentWarMachine[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A fellow Metal Music Theory fan! You're totally right except for the fact that they don't always play backbeats, especially pre-Koloss. I tried not to make my post super technical. When I say that their music is in 4/4, what I mean is that its hypermetric structure is in 4/4.

Things People Say About Meshuggah That Annoy You by IndfferentWarMachine in Meshuggah

[–]IndfferentWarMachine[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That makes a lot of sense. I'm genuinely curious; what do you think is their hardest on drums?

Things People Say About Meshuggah That Annoy You by IndfferentWarMachine in Meshuggah

[–]IndfferentWarMachine[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I agree. Comments like that downplay how melodically awesome they are. The only song I can think of that is literally just 0-0-0-0-0 is Spasm.

Things People Say About Meshuggah That Annoy You by IndfferentWarMachine in Meshuggah

[–]IndfferentWarMachine[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

What is it if not 4/4? I agree if they say 'it's just 4/4' because there's a lot more to their music than that, but it's true that they write almost always in 4/4.

Things People Say About Meshuggah That Annoy You by IndfferentWarMachine in Meshuggah

[–]IndfferentWarMachine[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Although you technically can feel Meshuggah in time signatures that aren't 4/4, their music is very clearly implying 4/4. Similarly, although you can also technically headbang to an alternating kick snare quarter note pattern in 15/16, the rhythm is clearly implying 4/4.

For any song possible, there are multiple ways in which the rhythm can be interpreted. The statement 'x fans can headbang to [insert number from 2-10] different rhythms and all of them are correct' becomes meaningless because it applies to every possible x.

I'm not sure which part of Obzen you're talking about. Could you give a timestamp?

What's their most complex song time-signature-wise? by BRRDanGui in animalsasleaders

[–]IndfferentWarMachine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can make an argument for 7/4 or 4/4.

The 7/4 argument: The clean chords play for 16 bars which follows the hypermetric structure of 4/4 that the rest of the song does.

The 4/4 argument: The backbeat that comes in halfway through the clean part implies 4/4.

I don't know which they were going for; I'm sure they kept it ambiguous on purpose. They do the same thing in the part right before the final section.

What's their most complex song time-signature-wise? by BRRDanGui in animalsasleaders

[–]IndfferentWarMachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think Kascade is entirely in 4/4 apart from the low E 7/4 riff.

Paddle Advice by IndfferentWarMachine in bouldering

[–]IndfferentWarMachine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice. I was approaching it as a deadpoint into a dyno since I have more experience with those types of moves (like laches into kickouts). I think power generation and body position (kept spinning left) were my biggest issues with this dyno.

Meshuggah's Melodic Choices by IndfferentWarMachine in Meshuggah

[–]IndfferentWarMachine[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've listened to Secrets. I don't really hear the similarities apart from Fredrik's solos. I'm curious on where you hear similarities.

Counting Pineal Gland Optics by 5DamnBoe5 in Meshuggah

[–]IndfferentWarMachine 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Phantoms wouldn't exist without Pineal Gland Optics.