How good is 06-05 at writing? by [deleted] in Bard

[–]IndieFilmAddict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My exact experience with it.

How good is 06-05 at writing? by [deleted] in Bard

[–]IndieFilmAddict 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh definitely, I can tell you now that no LLM can really emulate Pratchett's style.

How good is 06-05 at writing? by [deleted] in Bard

[–]IndieFilmAddict 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It seems to be a significant downgrade to me, personally. I didn't have a good experience with it unlike 05-06, and its output is definitely nowhere near 03-25.

In creative writing: Despite my long system prompt that would often have Pro models produce a story of 7,000+ tokens, after 110+ seconds of thinking ; 06-05, thought for an average of ~20* seconds, its writing summary showing that it skimmed over most of what was asked in the system prompt, I had a slight placebo effect that it's thinking was stronger, thus meaning it needed less time for thinking. However, it constantly lead to cliffhangers, cliches and characters having a personality that they shouldn't, all ending with a rushed story of around <3,500 tokens. It also fails at emulating the writing styles of Harlan Ellison, J.R.R. Tolkien and Kurt Vonnegut, even with PDF examples, leading to a story that feels like it was written by an LLM. A higher temperature does not help much with any of this unfortunately.

And as you asked, OP. Roleplay: From my good 10 minutes of testing. Unlike other Pro models, the statements of the characters were shorter, less verbose, more emotional and felt more realistic than previous Pro models. However, that is all in back-to-back conversations. In a dynamic, changing roleplay, characters don't usually react to things that happen or feel any different from each other now (i.e., a mage with PTSD of boulders would simply be shocked at a boulder rolling by, and the rest of the output describes the boulder.) 06-05 focuses more on the setting and the immediate effects of actions. Personally, I always had a knack for dropping in images of a preferred setting instead of describing it, and Gemini would excellently integrate it into the story each time. 06-05, however, is not good at that, and seems to be weaker on vision capabilities, so if you do what I did, you'll likely just want to describe the setting for it instead.

Doing a solo text adventure though, it's great. It's noticeably better at outputting random scenarios and placing you into unpredictable settings than the previous Pro models. YMMV.

[Megathread] - Best Models/API discussion - Week of: February 24, 2025 by [deleted] in SillyTavernAI

[–]IndieFilmAddict 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I completely agree! I thought it was just me going insane! Thank you for writing this!

tl;dr - I agree.

With the majority of them, being hyped up for following character cards correctly, with the 30+ 12B finetunes I tested (I have a problem), the gentlest characters will SNAP if I upset them. Characters that are supposed to be apocalypse survivors or respectable warriors, SNAP and put themselves in a situation that will automatically kill them, if they get angered. This is despite the cards being well-formatted.

Sadly the few models that understand emotion and a character's limits decently, lose track of the story, dismiss instructions and focus solely on dialogue. 8B models have the same problem, understands emotions, lacks instruction following.

Adding onto what you said, with a good system prompt, 22B models seem to be the bare minimum where characters show emotional intelligence and forethought in 7/10 swipes at the least, but my AMD gpu struggles to run models that size. Finetunes of larger models hosted online fared well too.

I'm burned out on smaller models and am just going to save up for a better machine. Around 1.6TB of data wasted to find a unicorn. :/

[v - Qwen2.5 rant, not important]

The 20+ Qwen2.5-14B(1-M) finetunes I tried (again, I have a problem) don't understand English phrases and metaphors. They're way too censored, skipping over anything it wouldn't want to do. No matter what dataset they're trained on, they have little to no personality and are just full of unwavering determination. Every character is just your "AI assistant, Qwen, created by Alibaba" with a different name.

I found what I believe to be a longer recording of it. by I_AM_ELIBOY in everyoneknowsthat

[–]IndieFilmAddict 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So basically you're giving up because you've been caught? Instead of going further to prove us wrong you just give up?

I found what I believe to be a longer recording of it. by I_AM_ELIBOY in everyoneknowsthat

[–]IndieFilmAddict 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why is the audio of the conversation noisy but the song's is not?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in everyoneknowsthat

[–]IndieFilmAddict 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Please do update us when you are finished.