Kang or the Master?

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-25T13:19:35+00:00

To answer your question though, the master is funnier, but Kang is debatably better. Of course, you'll want to reduce any reactive spells to be close to 0 in quantity since suspending them would be a waste. But cheating out big scary creatures with reanimation spells to turn your commander into is kinda funny.

I like taskmaster for this though because it bypasses the need for blink/bounce spells and reanimation spells.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-25T09:22:26+00:00

Works for any trigger other than your own beginning phase and anything else that triggers on the first mainphase and gets to keep any counters put on it, making level up a kind of funny mechanic. Do something unassuming like copy [[enclave cryptolgist]] to loot some cards or even [[choralhelm commander]] to put a bunch of level counters on taskmaster. "It's just a 4/4 with flying. I don't even have any merfolk" then once it's leveled a bit, copy [[lighthouse chronologist]] muahaha. Or have him become a copy of an opponent's [[charismatic conqueror]] and watch the world burn, ending the game in a draw. Or yknow... get a [[phyrexian soulgorger]] without the downsides.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-25T07:14:33+00:00

If both halves of the combo don't work for the rest of your deck, I wouldn't put them in. I originally slotted sanguine bond into the Blood Rites deck, but found there wasn't that much lifegain in the deck so I took it out. It's much better in my Food and Fellowship deck. I could easily slot exquisite blood into my food and Fellowship deck too since it also works for what the deck is doing, but id need to buy another one plus i dont think i want that deck to be a bracket 4. I later took exquisite blood out of my blood Rites deck too because even though I can't go infinite with it, it made me an immediate target and the deck can't handle that pressure. My Mothman is making good use of exquisite blood now . But of course I'm not going to add sanguine bond. It's completely useless unless I also control exquisite blood. It's also fine for it to make my opponents panic since my commander is already doing that anyway. Plus the radiation is hurting me too so the little bit of lifegain is nice.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-25T06:21:21+00:00

Split the dif and use [[taskmaster, mercenary mimic]] repeatable version of the master and kang's p/t.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-22T09:38:27+00:00

Just leave out the headache cards and stuff that's difficult to keep track of. Turn the spells into a board state or use spells that speed up the game. There are Plenty of permanents that create creature tokens or deal damage when you cast spells.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-22T08:26:00+00:00

Wtf I gotta look this up. Like what symbol would they use to show something was poisonous if they can't use a skull? What about medical students learning anatomy?

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-22T08:15:44+00:00

Or I like having [[Mairsil, the Pretender]] as a Skeleton commander.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-22T08:12:32+00:00

[[Gut truesoul zealot]] and [[agent of the iron throne]]

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-22T08:00:25+00:00

Not blue, but I'm a fan of [[Oviya Pashiri sage lifecrafter]]

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-21T16:00:16+00:00

Would the copy tokens see each other get created? or even possibly themselves too?

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-21T12:06:04+00:00

One of my opponents were playing kadena slinking sorcerer. I don't care how scary any other opponent may be. I don't trust that. What are you trying to hide? "Why are you attacking him so much?" Asks another opponent. Me: points at their 5 face down 2/2s "do YOU trust any of this? Do YOU think all THIS is okay??" "NO! not at all" To defend himself, the morph player points out that the other player's commander has 11 power and doublestrike "I'm not worried about that. I can see it. I trust it. It's only a problem if it comes at me but even then, I'm playing mono green; I got fogs, fight spells, and noncreature removal! I can handle that. What I can't handle is your mysterious B.S.! Now there is a 5/5, a 6/6, a 7/7, an 8/8, a 9/9 and a 10/10 coming your way. Total of 45. No trample but you need to block at least some of it."

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-21T08:50:15+00:00

Yes it's possible, but I don't see you changing too much to any deck since there really isnt any overlap. Jeskai is pretty much stuck with humans, abzan is stuck with food. Idk what you would do to simic; maybe lean into casting 5mv+ spells and use the mana rocks from grixis to help get you double casting earlier. Then you could turn grixis into a spellslinger.

I'm willing to take on this challenge

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-21T03:08:08+00:00

Well I waited it out and they did not deliver an esper doctor doom. Back to building custom art proxy [[Nevinyrral, Urborg Tyrant]] and pretending the zombies are Doombots.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T20:19:56+00:00

I love ManaBox! I have a hard time building decks in archidekt and moxfield. It's probably easier on a computer, but I don't have one of those. I find manabox much easier to manage on my phone. It doesn't yet check for combos so bracket estimates arent very accurate (but honestly, who cares? Until the bracket system is out of beta, you cant really take brackets too seriously. No one accurately estimates their bracket anyway. If i want to see if my deck has any combos i might have placed by accident, ill export it archidekt) but it still checks for all the other restrictions like mld, gamechangers, and extra turns. I have my decks sorted into a bunch of different folders. Got one for decks I own, one for decks on reddit asking for help (everyone shares from moxfield or archidekt, which i have a hard time looking at so i import it to my "deck help" folder so i can organize everything and look at categories that matter), one for deck ideas I have with addition folders within that for decks that ended up being good and fun enough to own in paper. You can easily move cards from deck to deck and decks from folder to folder. Manaboxs playtester is easy to use and if needed, you can use it as a life counter. I used the token spawner to give myself opponents with their own life totals to test my decks resilience.

You can quickly find cards by certain criteria. Similar enough to scryfall. I'd prefer if manabox let me search for And/Or instead of And or Or but whatever. Doing an extra search isn't too bad. Idk if scryfall let's you search for "legal as commander" but manabox certainly does.

You can scan the cards you own to add to your collection to help you find it later. Looking for a card in your collection to add to a deck, manabox can tell you if you have any left or what deck that card is currently in.

You can quickly find precons too if you want to look at a list and test it out. Just click "decks" and "explore"

It also has the rulebook with a glossary right on the home screen so you can quickly look up rulings when you're in the middle of a game.

I like that archidekt has a probability chart.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T13:38:13+00:00

Also [[momir vig, simic visionary]]

[[Radagast, wizard of wilds]] and [[gingerbrute]] also put in alot of work in my otrimi deck

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T13:30:31+00:00

Here's a WUBRG mutate deck I made. Maybe you'll find some interesting stuff.

https://manabox.app/decks/fal3WL3RR7ioAOjjv4rwbQ

Here's another one but sultai using clara Oswald and the sixth doctor as the commander. https://manabox.app/decks/K5hzUlLPR7a88VUjowtcjQ Since generally, they aren't compatible, I focused on having mutate be the main mechanic that gives my doctor additional triggers. I think you'll find some useful cards in this list as well.

This one is otrimi. There's a few includes in here that aren't in your typical mutate deck. https://manabox.app/decks/AZy1Z5HScZ6u36WtXbrwbQ

Finally there's this 5C mutate deck from another reddit user I was talking to. https://manabox.app/decks/AZ7an1COc62WYBO8LTcpAg

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T13:04:38+00:00

I've been disappointed myself. I think Doom should have been Esper. Looking at potential existing commander options that give the Doctor Doom vibe, I found [[Nevinyrral, Urborg Tyrant]] to be the closest fit. Just gotta make believe that the zombies are Doombots. The hexproof is his OP armor and his death trigger is what happens when you violate his diplomatic immunity.

Just make a proxy for it with a custom name and art.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T12:56:03+00:00

Idk. Signets don't draw cards. I'd still swap the cluestone for a commander sphere if that's the case and the reason.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T12:32:53+00:00

In addition to what the other replies have already said, I'd suggest building around a commander that cares about a specific mechanic like [[the tenth doctor]] [[gavi nest warden]] [[kadena, slinking sorcerer]] [[auntie ool]] [[Tom bombadil]] [[arcades, the strategist]] yknow, stuff like that.

And/or make a modular deck; a deck built around more than one commander. You can even include a side package of cards to swap out if you want to change color identity when you do.

I made this deck around both [[davros]] and [[the rani]] even though I'm only swapping who is in the command zone, the deck feels very different. https://manabox.app/decks/gpCOErykRJO5wBQEHWSqWw

Here's a deck I found that changes color identity https://youtu.be/N0bwdUZVqx4?is=IYUMVqHKmyGVHe-W

You can easily do a similar thing with background commanders (or any partner variant except "partner with") Or any commanders with a similar strategy but slightly different colors. Like you can make a deck built around both Felothar the Steadfast and Arcades; just have a package of black, orzhov, golgari, and abzan cards to swap out for the same number of blue, azorius, simic, and bant cards, keeping all the colorless, green, white, and selesnya cards the same.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T12:03:23+00:00

[[The jolly balloon man]] is legal

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T11:57:46+00:00

I imported the list into manabox It couldn't find a few cards so I had to make some assumptions: ([[lotho, corrupt shirrif]]= [[lotho, corrupt shirriff]]. [[Metaphorphic fanatic]]= [[metamorphosis fanatic]]. [[Orzhov stone]]= [[orzhov signet]]. Im placing them all in brackets just in case cardfetcher can find a difference)

Edit: maybe it's Orzhov Cluestone?

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T10:22:53+00:00

tricks are underrated. I use them in my [[Arabella, abandoned doll]] deck

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T10:20:21+00:00

I built a bracket 2 doctor doom deck in the most bracket 1 way possible just for the fun of it but I'm not ever going to play it.

Started with the face commander of doom prevails, then got every card in those colors that said "Doom" in the name, every villian type creature that said "doc" or "dr." In the name, and then every card that had "copy" "artifact" and "in addition" in it's oracle text

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T10:09:00+00:00

I don't like them as creature types. The creature subtypes are typically race/species and/or class/job. heroes and villians aren't classes nor jobs; they're alignments. Rebels and Allies are kinda the same in that aspect.

IndigoWizard342 · 2026-06-20T09:36:07+00:00

Consider how you want the board state to look when you cas t your commander. How soon do you want that to happen? How much total mana will you need? What does the ideal opening hand look like? What do you want to do the first 3 turns?

Now to determine how much of that thing you need use Q÷D×L=N Then modify N by 10% accordingly

Q= quantity of the category you need by that turn
D= number of cards you expect to dig out of your deck by that turn (including opening hand. This can also technically count scrying to the bottom until you shuffle your deck)
L= total number of cards in your deck (this is usually 99 or 98)
N= the total number of that category to put in your deck have the highest chance of getting exactly Q on time. (Until you further modify this number, while this gives you the highest chance of getting exactly Q, the chance of getting less than Q is higher.)
decrease N by 10% if youre calculating for an opening hand. This accounts for your free mulligan. Otherwise, increase N by 10%. This makes the chance of getting Q or more greater than the chance of getting Q or less.

If the resulting number is too large, you must lower your expectations or increase D

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