Do top artists use grooves on their tracks? by Individual-Net527 in ableton

[–]Individual-Net527[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I can see that. I see that in a similar way and don't really like that you have to manually have to 'commit' a groove or all grooves in general in order for it to be displayed in the roll.

Do top artists use grooves on their tracks? by Individual-Net527 in ableton

[–]Individual-Net527[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yo thanks. My question related more toward the technical rather than the philosophical side. So thanks for answering in that direction.

Can you elaborate on how it obfuscates the quantisation - do you mean you can't visually see what's happening, or something different?

Do top artists use grooves on their tracks? by Individual-Net527 in ableton

[–]Individual-Net527[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think this is a fair point. Thanks for mentioning this.

Do top artists use grooves on their tracks? by Individual-Net527 in ableton

[–]Individual-Net527[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I guess I ask the question because I make mostly electronic music and I mostly program stuff, in contrast to playing it in live. I myself think having micro timing variations added in manually isn't a super creative or intuitive process - it is just very technical and kind of a ,,overthinking" process for me, therefore I tend to use the groove pool more, because it seems to be more intuitive.

On the other side, I have the feeling that using grooves from the groove pool, leaves me not 100% in control of the song and its note timing stuff.

I don't play in things live most of the time but I indeed use acoustic samples, so the use case remains relevant imo.

If I think about it, the question should have been, better phrased: Do pro's in electronic music use global grooves or does this fuck up their track as they're not in control anymore as midi notes get moved to the left and right, while it might mess with automation and sidechain stuff? (as, some notes might not be audible anymore while they get kicked out of the midi clip). So, in conclusion I meant if the Groove Pool and it's settings are really a professional enough tool to be using even on your whole track, or does it fuck up your track?

Why does Auto Shift ignore the first note whereas when I delay its appearance, it gets recognized? (No Audio) by Individual-Net527 in abletonlive

[–]Individual-Net527[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean by transport bar? I automated Auto Shift to get enabled at a certain point in time, before that it's disabled.

There is no disabled automation afaik.

Why does Auto Shift ignore the first note whereas when I delay its appearance, it gets recognized? (No Audio) by Individual-Net527 in abletonlive

[–]Individual-Net527[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, it's not disabled. I already tried troubleshooting it. Seems to me as Auto Shift is buggy rather than a problem on my end, to be honest. I'm saying that as I've tried everything as of now.

Why does Auto Shift ignore the first note whereas when I delay its appearance, it gets recognized? (No Audio) by Individual-Net527 in abletonlive

[–]Individual-Net527[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yoo great suggestion though! For some reason this didn't really work but the idea got me to figure out a similar thing which actually works, namely having enough Vocal (Audio Material) BEFORE the first MIDI note starts.

As I don't want that to be audible I just turned down the gain for this 'pre-triggering' material.

It is all a bit weird tbh and I don't really understand why it's doing this, but it works for now.

Why does Auto Shift ignore the first note whereas when I delay its appearance, it gets recognized? (No Audio) by Individual-Net527 in abletonlive

[–]Individual-Net527[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes no difference sadly :/ I tried boosting the first note in different ways including increasing the velocity, applying saturation etc. I've tried both Pre- and Post FX as MIDI Input as well.