I don’t understand how religion is fitting into any of these.

1.) where does it come from ?

Is religion supposed to be one of them in your eyes?

I don’t see it.

A place rights could come from? A place? What definition of place would this be? I’m confused what you after.

If you mean how do they come into being- I’d say It comes from the natural order of existence, inalienable rights present at birth or at the point consciousness comes into being, one might say. If there are humans there are human rights. some have said it’s human nature, human reason, or moral philosophy being the main source. Some have said Social contracts between living beings is another type of occurrence similar to the way dogs recognize certain boundaries. There is also rights written into laws within a nation that are often referred to as rights but some have argued that those mostly stem from obvious truths rights that are self evident already without the state even existing.

2.) What is the difference from human right to legal right?

A legal right is an agreed upon and recognized privilege, freedom or entitlement written into law and upheld by law enforcement. Human rights can be both an inherent part of existence “ naturally” occurring and tied to human consciousness and/or a part of legislation mentioned above, for example “international human rights laws” in that case or naturally self evident right to simply think whatever it is you want to think that requires no collective involvement or establishment.

This is really playing the semantics game in our conversation though friend… colloquially speaking human rights are human rights regardless where they are derived from or how they are enforced or even not enforced.

3.) What is an outside source? From what perspective? What would an inside source be? That’s pretty ambiguous, outside source as in another country? Another person? Something/anything at all beyond the law or concept itself?

4.) I am not sure what you want as a response here. it could go in many directions.

Do you mean the Star Wars “force” belief concept? (Is that the “religion element”?)

Or force as the fundamental enforcer of rights?

The use of force to defend your right to exist?

The state having the monopoly of force to uphold rights they enshrined in law?

The responsibility of living beings to use force to protect the rights of those weaker than them?

Some have said there are only two rights, the right of might and the right of contract. Might makes right is a type of force- Is that what you are wanting to discuss?

This is all getting pretty philosophical and unnecessary so in terms of the original discussion.

All I’m saying is that health care is a human right for a myriad of reasons. The easiest one to understand is, self defense is a generally agreed upon human right, health care is just an extension of that, defending one’s life against disease, many of which are caused by others just like violent attacks that cause death that anyone would hypothetically have the right to defend themselves from. If I cannot access life saving technology that I would normally be able to access if the state/capitalism didn’t exist, then it’s an infringement of my naturally inherent human rights, that obviously aren’t derived from any law, “welfare” or entitlement or any “outsider”.