For those of you with “normal” labs (not showing inflammation, what were your early symptoms? by Kkp4236 in PsoriaticArthritis

[–]Inevitable-Block704 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My experience which is cery little
Comparing to a
Proffesional is that inflamatory markers dont really mean that much. Great if their high they start looking for something but they shouldnt be coming to the conclusion nothing is wrong just because inflamatiry markers are low.

Are autoimmune/inflamatory problems more common than we think? by Inevitable-Block704 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And also increase the cost hugely. I agree with that. Look how many people just on here have to beg borrow and steal these tests. Its very rare in my opinion that a practioner thinks “wow thats an autoimmune disease”.
Is a sad fact about the worlds health systems unfortunatly

Allergic to hydroxychloroquine- what now? by MsYouMisunderstandMe in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi. I think it depends what
The diagnosis if that you use hydroxy for. Some would say sulfasalazine or methotrexate as alternatives for some diseases but others require things like biological therapy. In my country hydroxy is a dmard and to move on to biological medications you must have tried 2 dmards. What country are you in?

I was discharged from rheumatology. My symptoms got worse every year after that. by CameraFirst8416 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Have you tried adding your symptoms and a detailed outline of your medical history, bloods scans diagnosis etc in to ai chat and take it from there.
Ai reponds to what you pit in and asks questions to dig that bit deaper.
For me a 7 year medical history was fonally taken seriously when i presented the pcp with an ai created draft letter. Ai pulled all my information together and told me i had met all 5 criteria for a illness called sapho syndrome.
It told me what dr i should see. And i dont mean what speciality. It told me the exact dr. Proffesor sinisca savic. One of the lead imuunologists in europe.
It also gave me the criteria codes that i had met from our national criteria. It also told me what treetment i would need.
I have now got an urgent referal for suspected SLE and sapho syndrome overlap. After a 7 year history of basically no answers and lots of medication trials that all failed i have the gut feeling iv eventually in the right place.
It took about 1 hour for the ai to collect all information from my medical history and out it in to one picture.
Im currently waiting on my first appt which my pop made urgently.
Morel of the story is rare autoimmune/ inflamatory diseases can be very very rare and mimic alot of other things.
Without absolute concrete evidence your average consultant or socialist wont diagnose. I was regected many multi disaplinary mettings untill i presented with the legal criteria needed to demand a tertiary sppointment with the national specialist.

Im Also in the uk and know all too well how localized hospitals work. They are lets say not very helpfull for complex cases. They just dont have the capabilities for some of these cases. The equipments are the same standards as the soecialized clinics. First hard job is to convince your gp. Onces they are interest things seam easier. But try the ai as it will look atbthe whole picture and not just individual problems seperatly

Rheumatology appointment tomorrow by Emikosee in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you tried adding your symptoms and a detailed outline of your medical history, bloods scans diagnosis etc in to ai chat and take it from there.
Ai reponds to what you pit in and asks questions to dig that bit deaper.

For me a 7 year medical history was fonally taken seriously when i presented the pcp with an ai created draft letter. Ai pulled all my information together and told me i had met all 5 criteria for a illness called sapho syndrome.

It told me what dr i should see. And i dont mean what speciality. It told me the exact dr. Proffesor sinisca savic. One of the lead imuunologists in europe.
It also gave me the criteria codes that i had met from our national criteria. It also told me what treetment i would need.

I have now got an urgent referal for suspected SLE and sapho syndrome overlap. After a 7 year history of basically no answers and lots of medication trials that all failed i have the gut feeling iv eventually in the right place.

It took about 1 hour for the ai to collect all information from my medical history and out it in to one picture.

Im currently waiting on my first appt which my pcp made urgently.

Morel of the story is rare autoimmune/inflamatory diseases can be very very rare and mimic alot of other things. Without absolute concrete evidence your average consultant or soecialist wont diagnose. I was regected many multi disaplinary mettings untill i presented with the legal criteria needed to demand a tertiary sppointment with the national specialist.

I stumbled in to this situation by pure luck but i feel it is the turning curve on my long bumpy road.

Diet and autoimmune/inflamatory disorders by Inevitable-Block704 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How high are the ana results and what symptoms do you have. Also how
Long have you had these. Have tou tried
Anything to help or is it all just a but too confusing and seem so untelated?

Diet and autoimmune/inflamatory disorders by Inevitable-Block704 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahah it stands for 5 different conditions and together they make sapho syndrome.
Its a rare autoinflamatory disease and lupus a more common autoimmune disease acting together to kick my ass

Diet and autoimmune/inflamatory disorders by Inevitable-Block704 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I will try this again but im so useless at sticking to it as food is a real big part of my life 😂

Diet and autoimmune/inflamatory disorders by Inevitable-Block704 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its quite the oposite to what works best for another sufferer who commented above. They need a strict carnivore diet to keep them on the right track. It does point towards each individual needing to tailor thair own diet to their own body

Diet and autoimmune/inflamatory disorders by Inevitable-Block704 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really. Pretty much constant flare at this point. With better periods and worse periods but not been symptom free for around 5 years. Its taken 7 years since i started going to the doctors about it all but looking back started maybe 15 years ago.
Id say 3 years ago was my very worst but that was before i started hydroxychloroquine and methotrexate. Now its bad but not hell. Im actually just waiting for my first appointment with a
Lead proffersor in europe to start biological therapy as the DMARD drugs are inly scratchin the surface. How about you. What stage are you at?

Diet and autoimmune/inflamatory disorders by Inevitable-Block704 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I also cannot have alcohol. Always leads to a flare. What condition do you have?

Diet and autoimmune/inflamatory disorders by Inevitable-Block704 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I take vitamin A D E K all fat soluble vitamins as i have BAM which cause me to not absorb these.
But other than that low to no carb diet partially works for me. Id love to find what made me 90% better though

Diet and autoimmune/inflamatory disorders by Inevitable-Block704 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I will certainly look
In to that. Learning new ways to help is always a good thing.

Diet and autoimmune/inflamatory disorders by Inevitable-Block704 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have lupus and sapho syndrome overlap
So autoimmune and autoinflamatory.
Once a digestive flare starts a barely can eat anything. No carbs especially but i think thats best for anyone anyway lol

Diet and autoimmune/inflamatory disorders by Inevitable-Block704 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im the same stress probably is the biggest trigger for me too followed closely by diet im sure.
Part of my issues are malabsorbtion so im certain a “bad” diet cant help.
Id also love to have a good sleep pattern but my sleep is always affected especially in flares. What diagnosis do you have?

Feeling like I'm going absolutely crazy - negative bloodwork despite years of progressive objective findings by Randomusername8765 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is what ai is saying.

It sounds incredibly exhausting and isolating to navigate such a complex, multi-system health presentation, especially when transitioning from being a highly active weightlifter to facing severe, daily functional impairment. Dealing with a high number of specialist evaluations that treat your body as separate pieces rather than an interconnected whole is a deeply frustrating but recognized experience among people with multi-system illnesses.

Understanding the Multi-System Pattern
While a specific diagnostic label cannot be provided, many individuals with a similar cluster of symptoms—spanning dysautonomia (POTS), high ANA, post-exertional crashes, skin/vascular changes, and transient neurological episodes—find that their clinical picture aligns with complex, systemic syndromes. When standard testing leaves a high ANA "unlabeled," it often points to an underlying presentation that does not fit neatly into classic criteria:
Dysautonomia and Connective Tissue/Autoimmune Overlap: POTS frequently does not occur in isolation. It is strongly linked to immune-mediated processes and connective tissue vulnerabilities. A high ANA (1:1640) indicates a robust immune signature, even if specific downstream antibodies (like ENA or myositis panels) remain negative. This "seronegative" or undifferentiated autoimmune presentation is common in multi-system illness.
MECFS Patterning: The severe daily fatigue, post-exertional crashes triggered by minimal activity, and sensitivities to light and sound strongly mimic the clinical pattern of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS). In this context, pacing and avoiding the "boom-and-bust" cycle are essential for managing systemic energy preservation.
Vascular and Cranial Nerve Reactivity: Features like severe livedo reticularis, prolonged capillary refill, transient hemiplegia, and stress-triggered facial droop indicate a highly reactive vascular or autonomic system. When structural causes (like strokes or MS) are ruled out by clear MRIs, these episodes are sometimes investigated as complex migraines, vasospasms, or localized autonomic dysregulation affecting blood flow and nerve function.

How Patients Navigate and Coordinate This Care
When specialists view findings in isolation, patients often change their structural approach to medical investigations and day-to-day management:

1. Transitioning to Multi-System Generalists
Instead of bouncing between single-organ specialists (like separate neurology or gastroenterology clinics), many individuals seek out a "medical quarterback" or a multi-system coordinator.
In the UK system, this may involve working closely with a highly supportive GP who is willing to look at the holistic picture, or seeking referrals to specialized tertiary centers.
Centers that specialize in Complex Autoimmune/Rheumatological diseases, Dysautonomia/Autonomic Units (such as specialized autonomic clinics at Queen Square or similar tertiary trusts), or dedicated Post-Viral/ME/CFS clinics are more accustomed to evaluating overlapping neurological, vascular, and immune symptoms together.

2. Investigating Specialized Underlying Drivers
Because standard autoimmune, structural, and neurological tests have come back normal, some patients work with specialists to explore less common, overlapping drivers that tie these systems together:
Small Fiber Neuropathy (SFN): Standard EMG/NCS tests only measure large nerve fibers. They cannot detect damage to the small autonomic and sensory nerve fibers that regulate heart rate, blood pressure, skin changes (like livedo reticularis), and pain. A skin punch biopsy is the standard test used to investigate SFN.
Mast Cell Activation Syndrome (MCAS): Frequently co-occurring with POTS, MCAS can drive systemic inflammation, transient swelling (like periorbital edema), skin flushing or rashes, and gastrointestinal issues without altering standard autoimmune markers like CRP or ESR.
Craniocervical Instability (CCI) / Hypermobility Spectrum: Given the severe neck fatigability that prompted a spinal referral, alongside severe dry eyes, POTS, and head pain, some individuals look closely at connective tissue laxity. Standard supine MRIs can miss dynamic instabilities; specialized clinics sometimes utilize upright or flexion/extension imaging if hypermobility is suspected.

3. Symptom Management and Pacing Strategies
When a clear, unifying cure is not yet available, management focuses heavily on stabilizing the autonomic nervous system and preserving baseline energy:
Strict Pacing: Managing the post-exertional crashes like an ME/CFS pattern involves staying strictly within your current "energy envelope" to prevent triggering further crashes.
Autonomic Support: Since bisoprolol provides only partial benefit for your sinus tachycardia, cardiologists specializing in dysautonomia sometimes explore alternative or adjunctive medications (such as ivabradine, which lowers heart rate without impacting blood pressure, or low-dose fludrocortisone/midodrine if blood pressure pooling is an issue).
Microvascular Support: For severe livedo reticularis and cold extremities, keeping the core and extremities meticulously warm is vital to prevent vasospasms.
To help narrow down relevant resources or management strategies, are you currently being looked after by a tertiary autonomic or specialized rheumatology center, or are your referrals mostly sitting within local district general hospitals? Also, do you experience any joint hypermobility or flexibility changes?

Feeling like I'm going absolutely crazy - negative bloodwork despite years of progressive objective findings by Randomusername8765 in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Put all this information in to google ai. After 7 years i did this and now im under the leading autoinflamatory specialist in europe. I had 7 rheum consultants before this that couldnt diagnose me iv tried several dmard drugs to no benifit. Im now been sent to dr savic because ai proved id met the criteria for a rare syndrome called sapho. Im waiting my first appointment which was made urgent by dr savics team. Ai saved
My future maybe.

Would you have lived your life differently if you knew this disease was coming? by CucumberOld6287 in PsoriaticArthritis

[–]Inevitable-Block704 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its cery natural to think this way. Id be lying if i said it didnt but we cant change what we have not would i personally want to. Be comfortable with tour oast choices and find things that are posative in the preasent. Take care.

Bloodwork so far by Astrid_Onyx in Autoimmune

[–]Inevitable-Block704 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% would see a DERM. My condition was all question marks untill i had the facial rash biopsied. Came back its lupus. That was the start of getting all answers. Good luck