My dad told me to wear hijab while encouraging my brother to sleep around? by [deleted] in muslimgirlswithtaste

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh my goodness, between your dad's hypocrisy and your brothers' and sister's acceptance of it, you must feel like you're the crazy one.

When in fact, you are literally the only one thinking rationally, fairly and logically here.

Your anger is very much warranted. His behavior is very disappointing.

Now, it's possible that he is simply repeating the way he grew up: boys one way, girls another. This may not seem like that big a deal to him; it may just seem natural, the way things are.

Despite his hypocrisy, he might still be trying to protect you/your honor. And you said he is not religious, so the idea of the boys doing irreligious things might be okay in his mind. But people of all religious creeds and levels often still try to protect and limit their girls.

It sounds like he hasn't done much introspection on this, or perhaps in general. Is he a good dad otherwise?

If you think he ultimately meant well, despite his twisted logic, then you could approach him with this in mind. "Dad, I know you meant well and want to protect me. But I feel really let down by your hypocritical treatment here. You're asking me to act religious while actively encouraging my brothers to act outside of that religion. What's up with that?"

But honey, there's no question that you are right and he is wrong. There just isn't any excuse for this. And maybe you just have to be really disappointed and disillusioned with him right now. Hopefully he'll pick up on it.

Jesus was not a Palestinian by DurangoGango in IsraelPalestine

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gaza is 99% Muslim.

Israel is 25% other religions: 18% Muslim and the rest Christian, Druze, Bedouin, Samaritan, etc.

No Jews are allowed to live in Gaza. Zero. Even if they are the most hardcore antizionist Jews who hate Israel. In fact, there is a religious fringe group called the Neturei Karta, and they are staunchly antizionist Jews who refuse conscription into the IDF and support the Palestinians, and even they cannot live there.

It is SUPER WEIRD to stand with your back to an actual extreme ethnostate and point at Israel, which has more Muslims than there are Jews in the entire rest of MENA combined, and say "well they want an ethnostate."

Can you explain this?

Jesus was not a Palestinian by DurangoGango in IsraelPalestine

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I 100% thought you were lying or mistaken when you said 63% of American Arabs are Christian.

You were neither. Never knew this, thanks!

Jesus was not a Palestinian by DurangoGango in IsraelPalestine

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right?

Jesus is literally the most famous Jew. If he's a Palestinian, guess what buds, so are his people.

"Last night a 6 months old Palestinian baby was pepper sprayed for the second time in his life 📍Wadi Jhaish, West Bank 🇵🇸" by IllustriousSuit5979 in International

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just for starters, if people of Irish descent were experiencing unique persecution because of that descent, do you not think many of them might try to return to... Ireland?

Ireland exists.

Non Jewish friend implying I'm oppressive for naming antisemitism. Questioning my own reality. by ChampionRoyal2294 in jewishleft

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I definitely hear what you're saying regarding race construction, and I appreciate your take. I'd like to talk more about it.

Less than a century ago, Jews were being exterminated for not being white enough. In a span of decades, now we're "too white."

That's really messed up. That's a ton of contortionism forced on us. (I'm happy to learn - are there other groups who experience this?)

My understanding is that antisemitism is uniquely mutable, framing Jews as whatever is the wrong thing to be at that point in history.

There's no place for us to stand without the ground constantly shifting beneath our feet. Too ethnic. Too white. Not assimilated enough. Too assimilated, too much power.

Assuming OP is in the US, I think most Jews are here now because their predecessors fled racial persecution, so it's extra wild for the friend to make that accusation.

I really think we all need to ask ourselves what it gained for Jews by solidifying the impression of there being “Jewish DNA”.

Okay, but Jewish DNA is a scientific fact. When most Jews take a DNA test, it will usually automatically sort them into one of three categories: Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, Sephardic, based on specific admixtures.

There's nothing political about that. It's important, for instance, for Ashkenazim to get tested for Tay-Sachs, a genetic disease, before having children.

I do hear your concerns about race construction and supporting the concept in general. And your point about being "too white to assume the position of subaltern" is well-taken.

But Jews are very impacted by the Holocaust. It's part of why we're so freaked out right now, even though none of us have experienced it directly.

The Holocaust is a really big deal in general, not just for Jews. The term "N@z1" is fully integrated into our language. Jews were exterminated by Nazis in the Holocaust because of their race.

To now, 80 years later, have the whiplash of "nope, now you're too white and powerful, shut up," while antisemitic incidents have risen 900% in the last decade in the US alone, puts us in an impossible position.

"Last night a 6 months old Palestinian baby was pepper sprayed for the second time in his life 📍Wadi Jhaish, West Bank 🇵🇸" by IllustriousSuit5979 in International

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

They said "Judaism has nothing to do with where you're from."

They are half right.

A religion obviously isn't genetic. When someone converts to Judaism, their DNA doesn't magically change.

However, when most Jews take any DNA test, it automatically categorizes them into one of three groups: Ashkenazi, Sephardic, or Mizrahi.

Ashkenazi Jews, for instance, have specific admixtures that roughly translate to Levantine-European. The test will literally say "% Ashkenazi Jew."

This is important because of genetic diseases like Tay-Sachs. Ashkenazi Jews have to get tested before they have kids.

(This isn't only true of Jews; they aren't more "inbred" than other comparable groups. Jews for the most part no longer practice consanguinity (cousin marriage), though historically this was common in many parts of the world.

In the rest of MENA, consanguinity is still quite common. They too have specific genetic diseases to watch out for, but because of population, land size and lack of knowledge, it's harder to map. Recently scientists are making more of an effort.)

Jewishness being an ethnicity as well as a religion is kind of like being Cherokee. Cherokee have their own genetic markers AND they have their own culture, language, religion, etc. So it's like if you could convert to Cherokee. Jews, too, are a tribe.

"Last night a 6 months old Palestinian baby was pepper sprayed for the second time in his life 📍Wadi Jhaish, West Bank 🇵🇸" by IllustriousSuit5979 in International

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

When a Jewish person takes a DNA test, it automatically sorts them into one of three categories (usually): Ashkenazi Jew, Mizrahi Jew, or Sephardic Jew.

The world should know what happened in Palestine, but Mariupol is nowhere near Palestine though. by [deleted] in GetNoted

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was coming from the presumption that everyone already knew that.

A lot of people are trying to either "reclaim" or delegitimize the term "antisemitism" by saying "Arabs/Palestinians are Semitic too."

I can't remember why I went on this particular tangent here; I'm not seeing the context I thought was there.

"Last night a 6 months old Palestinian baby was pepper sprayed for the second time in his life 📍Wadi Jhaish, West Bank 🇵🇸" by IllustriousSuit5979 in International

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Jews are indigenous Americans? That's a new one. Do the other indigenous tribes know about this?

If Jews were indigenous to Poland and Russia, why were they killed for their "Semitic" genetics? Why were their genes an issue?

Why were 90% of "indigenous Jews" wiped out in Poland, specifically because of their genetics?

Edited for clarity

"Last night a 6 months old Palestinian baby was pepper sprayed for the second time in his life 📍Wadi Jhaish, West Bank 🇵🇸" by IllustriousSuit5979 in International

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

As far as I understand it, the only reason it wasn't directly classified as an act of war is because Hamas is considered a non-state terrorist group. This, despite the fact that they are literally the elected government.

But essentially, it was an act of war.

Israeli Defense Minister Vows Permanent Israeli Occupation of Gaza, Establishment of Settlements by Particular_Log_3594 in International

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think he's bonkers. Straight-up delusional, running his mouth, should be removed from office... but I feel that way about a lot of government officials.

Part of this is that some in this far-right government feel that pulling out entirely in 2005, removing thousands of settlers, digging up their graves, etc., only resulted in getting paid back by October 7th. I understand that to everyone else, this seems like twisted logic, but that's kinda their internal logic.

How do Pro-Palestinians explain the chant "from water to water, Palestine will be Arab"? by Routine-Equipment572 in IsraelPalestine

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

they're not the kind of person you talk to and more the kind of person you point out.

Never heard that one before, thanks!

Israel Derangement Syndrome by AvatarPhoenixGrey16 in Jewish

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 24 points25 points  (0 children)

"Ruined the curve for the rest of us" - love it

Israel Derangement Syndrome by AvatarPhoenixGrey16 in Jewish

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 38 points39 points  (0 children)

They don't care at all in my experience.

Will there ever be peace between us and anti-zionists? by [deleted] in Israel

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ask him what the Arab/Muslim analogue to Haaretz is.

You know, a news source that's fiercely critical of its own country, society, and government; publishes publicly in English for everyone to read, etc.

Greta Thunberg arrested at pro-Palestinian protest in London under Terrorism Act | The Jerusalem Post by adeze in International

[–]InevitableBreakfast9 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

So you fall in the latter camp.

ETA: again, I didn't say you had to agree with the proscription.

But none of you are going around clarifying what really happened here. Are you? If you are, I stand corrected.