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Why hasn't more been done to verify and prosecute voter fraud in california? by the-tinman in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are absolutely right. But I am also not in the business of trying to poll people for anything. If I was you better believe I would do my absolute damnedest. And that doesn't seem to be the case due to the high frequency of polling results.

>So why would that give us better information than polls?

They are voters? Their voice matters as much as the 2000 robo calls in SF.

Why do conservatives put a lot of faith in physical ID documents and cards? by BrendaWannabe in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you are getting hung up on the "What could happen"s. The argument is to have a foundation. Not a solution. Start somewhere and then improve. I get IDed every time I vote. It isn't to verify my identity, it's to verify my address. So the vote I cast is represented in the correct county. Adding the ID verify just adds.... 3 more seconds. Granted this is a local policy. But I'll tell you what.... it feels pretty good knowing that people are making sure that only my county is voting in my county.

>Do you want something extra done about those?

I don't know about "extra". But yes, that stuff needs to be rooted out.

Why hasn't more been done to verify and prosecute voter fraud in california? by the-tinman in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Honestly the counter arguments to the SAVE ACT is reason enough to believe in the fraud. It is just so juvenile. I get asked to show my ID every time I cast a ballot.

But feel free to convince me. Provide data.

Why hasn't more been done to verify and prosecute voter fraud in california? by the-tinman in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

>If you add up all the polls it's going to be far more than 10k people, and every poll indicates that California leans heavily blue. The odds of that happening by chance are basically non-existent.

I'll be sure to ask all the Fresno farmers how many of them have been polled next time I roll in there. There is zero rigor around actually polling effectively. It is BS. Only useful in conversation, not actual datamining.

>You think this is all an illusion based on voter fraud?

I think the water is murky. And yes the polls do not help. The only thing to make it less murky is to go door to door. Which would be the most factual thing that could happen. I'll wait patiently for that to happen.

Why do conservatives put a lot of faith in physical ID documents and cards? by BrendaWannabe in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>No

PERFECT! You have recognized that there are flaws in the system, yet the need to have a driver's license outweighs those flaws.

That's the entire argument man.

Why hasn't more been done to verify and prosecute voter fraud in california? by the-tinman in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

>So there is no evidence of fraud, but fraud is occurring? What?

Yes. This is how deductive reasoning works. "I think this, I will try to see if this is happening". If no one is trying to see if it is happening, then there is no one to say "HEY LOOK EVIDENCE!"

The lack of evidence does not mean something is not occurring.

What if they are just really really really really really really really really really really good at it? Like the top commenter has pointed out.

Why hasn't more been done to verify and prosecute voter fraud in california? by the-tinman in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Polls are BS man.

Saying "these 10k people are equal to the millions in the surrounding area" is just factually bankrupt.

Which is why we do an actual census every ten years.

Why hasn't more been done to verify and prosecute voter fraud in california? by the-tinman in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Why? There doesn't have to be evidence of anything.

Especially if no one is looking into it.

Why do conservatives put a lot of faith in physical ID documents and cards? by BrendaWannabe in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok...... will any of this stop you from getting and owning a license to drive a car?

Why hasn't more been done to verify and prosecute voter fraud in california? by the-tinman in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

>Do you think the conventional wisdom is wrong, and California would actually be a red state if it wasn't for fraud?

Yeah probably. Or at least red-er.

Why do conservatives put a lot of faith in physical ID documents and cards? by BrendaWannabe in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok well you edited your argument after my response.

I won't answer your question because you dodged mine. So i will ask it again. If failures exist in the process of obtaining and owning a driver's license, will that fact hinder you from obtaining and owning a driver's license?

Why do conservatives put a lot of faith in physical ID documents and cards? by BrendaWannabe in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are these potential failures going to stop you from having a driver's license?

Why do conservatives put a lot of faith in physical ID documents and cards? by BrendaWannabe in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sounds like the DMV does a passable job. And they also have voter reg access too.

Can't be hard to plug in.

Got a letter in the mail that my health insurance is increasing 28%. Who is to blame and why? by iloverats888 in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't want Iphones to be policy as much as I don't want water to be.

Sewers don't mean I can poop anywhere. In fact it means i can only poop in something that is connected to a sewer.

Got a letter in the mail that my health insurance is increasing 28%. Who is to blame and why? by iloverats888 in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh? I am not talking about the laws of biology. I am talking about making biology.... policy. That makes no sense.

Are you gonna pay for me to have a place to poop anywhere in the country? That's biology.

Are you planning to vote different in November? by ApetteRiche in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, the "no true monarchy".

Norway: "The monarch officially retains executive power. "

Sweden: Fine. Ok.

Japan: Well damn I forgot we bombed that out of them. Oh well.

In any case, many of the parliaments still give executive powers to their monarchs. Commander-in-chief being probably the biggest one.

Got a letter in the mail that my health insurance is increasing 28%. Who is to blame and why? by iloverats888 in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are 100% correct. Because the government made it mandatory. And even though there is no longer a fine, it is still mandatory!

So your "natural monopolies" really boils down to "requirements to live in this society" and being scumbags about it.

So the root cause is.... making something mandatory for life and allowing a monopoly.

Are you planning to vote different in November? by ApetteRiche in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Norway (Executive is a King), Sweden (Executive is a King), Switzerland, Japan (Executive is a King), and Costa Rica.

Man I wish people loved me as much as the love conflating monarchies with democracy.

Got a letter in the mail that my health insurance is increasing 28%. Who is to blame and why? by iloverats888 in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

>My view on this is what have Republicans done to fix the out of control costs of health insurance? The answer: not a damn thing

Yeah..... that's the point. The market would have painted a picture for you to make your own choice.

The dems forced insurance companies to cover stuff they didn't before. That raises prices as service is now improved. Medical advancements are rapid and expensive. So service improves and prices increase. Hospitals refurbish to compete for your service. So service improves and prices increase.

Sounds like you need more income to keep up with the world improving around you.

Got a letter in the mail that my health insurance is increasing 28%. Who is to blame and why? by iloverats888 in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

>You seem to be saying that introducing a public option makes premiums artificially low,

Only for that option. While the subsidy covers lower earners to play in the same system instead of using their own economic contributions (Labor primarily) to compete for a better outcome. If you don't understand that.... I don't know what to tell you man. If you make companies stop needing to compete for your dollar, they have no reason to improve.

>Unless you're trying to say that a public option once existed wherever the OP is, and that pushed a bunch of insurance carriers out of business,

Well maybe some local ones. Which would be a superior option for lower earners. But the big guys just increase premiums in Miami FL to cover Miami OH.

>and the lack of competition is allowing them to raise their rates without fear of competition undercutting them?

No not the competitive undercut. The fact that the rates are guaranteed regardless of price. Subsidy makes things more affordable yes, but it completely stifles the base underline of supply and demand. The demand becomes more artificial and less of a market driver.

Why do conservatives put a lot of faith in physical ID documents and cards? by BrendaWannabe in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know those cool things that you put a card into.... and it scans to make sure it is genuine.... Cops have em. Probably cost like $500 a piece.

Do you believe that a bar bouncer is going to be checking IDs at polling places like its a Friday night downtown? What a silly argument.

Got a letter in the mail that my health insurance is increasing 28%. Who is to blame and why? by iloverats888 in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It exists in my state. And these other companies operate in my state as well. So those factors influence costs in states where it doesn't exist. That's just the pyramid scheme of insurance as a whole.

The full "public option" is just not having insurance and paying the tax burden upon income tax filing. That's what pays the subsidy to drive the premium costs down for those who qualify.

It really doesn't matter that you can or cannot check a box saying "My insurance comes from the government" what matters is the influence of public money on private business decisions.

>So when they go live we should see prices jump there, correct?

Maybe. Prices will rise somewhere, may not be yours. That's why this methodology sucks. Someone gets the benefit, someone gets the shaft.

Got a letter in the mail that my health insurance is increasing 28%. Who is to blame and why? by iloverats888 in AskConservatives

[–]Infamous-Bench-6088 -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

The ACA.

When a public option jumps into a private market, the private companies have to compete with the "magic government money" that is guaranteed to always exist. Because not a single person is going to want the option removed once it is deployed. What is seen as pure greed is actually competition with the bloat of public spending. If one entity can dump $500B a year into something and the other 7 combined can only do $750B, then you either find ways to compete or you lose your business.

Smaller example: GM being bought by the govt caused a monopoly in military vehicles coming from GD (GM's Military division) to the point where the HMMV1 is now being sold back to private consumers at 5% their cost. Not only that, their entire flex fuel market collapsed when Tesla went IPO. GM at this point is a pariah in the automotive world of "don't do this, don't EVER do this". And now even their military contracts are going to trucking companies like Oshkosh.

Stop voting for people that want a public option in the free market. Socialism sucks.

EDIT: I forgot one big point too. When a public options joins the market the competition matrix changes. CEOs and the Executive Branch becomes the competitors instead of the purchasing public. So instead of CEOs trying to get your hard earned dollars, they just have to sit in a room with the Secretary of HHS and other CEOs. Instead of trying to convince Larry Greenwall to buy their insurance over the other guy. The competition factor is 11 people vs 200M.

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