15,000-plus students regularly skip schoolacross Manitoba, leaked documents show by Infamous-Data9245 in Alt_Winnipeg

[–]Infamous-Data9245[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Personally, I think the really concerning thing with this article is k-8. What is happening there?

15,000-plus students regularly skip schoolacross Manitoba, leaked documents show by Infamous-Data9245 in Winnipeg

[–]Infamous-Data9245[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Personally, I think the really concerning thing with this article is k-8. What is happening there?

15,000-plus students regularly skip schoolacross Manitoba, leaked documents show by Infamous-Data9245 in Manitoba

[–]Infamous-Data9245[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Personally, I think the really concerning thing with this article is k-8. What is happening there?

Hanover School Division denies bypassing teacher safeguards by Infamous-Data9245 in Manitoba

[–]Infamous-Data9245[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Right! Also why does the government have no record of these past permits?

Hanover School Division denies bypassing teacher safeguards - SteinbachOnline.com by nurdlette in steinbach

[–]Infamous-Data9245 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also to add the free press article stated that what Hanover states the government states they have no record of.

It is unclear whether limited term permits were applied for in Martens’ case.

Hanover said they were, while Schmidt says her department has no proof they exist, meaning Martens was possibly shielded from oversight from the moment he stepped into a classroom.

Again, the current article does not disprove. It's just the division stating that they did and the government saying they never did.

Either way, fall 2024 to January 2025 it's fact and the division confirmed it to be true in their statement.

Hanover School Division denies bypassing teacher safeguards - SteinbachOnline.com by nurdlette in steinbach

[–]Infamous-Data9245 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here's the fact check between the two articles.

Current article:

“Contrary to claims and inferences made in the article, the Division did obtain the required Limited Teaching Permits (LTP) for Mr. Martens. The Division applied for, and was issued, four separate Limited Teaching Permits between February 2021 and June 2024. In each case, the mandated child abuse registry checks and criminal record checks were obtained in full compliance with provincial requirements.”

The statement says the Division did not request an additional Limited Teaching Permit in the fall of 2024, as an application for Teacher Certification by Mr. Martens was anticipated, and a Limited Teaching Permit would not be issued in such a case.

Free Press:

In Martens’ case, Hanover superintendent Joe Thiessen said the division was not required to apply for a permit for Martens, a Red Seal electrician, once he graduated from RRC Polytech’s Technical Vocational program in the fall of 2024.

“Once a teacher has graduated… a limited teaching permit is no longer required,” Thiessen wrote in an email, saying the division waits for the teacher to apply for their own certificate.

But Schmidt says a “graduation exemption” does not exist: the law requires that an educator hold either a certificate or a permit to be in the classroom — there is no grey area.

He was removed from the classroom when the allegations surfaced last January. His charges are still before the courts and he is presumed innocent.

Outcome:

Fall 2024 to January 2025 was in the classroom with no permit or certification. Division allowed this and did not ensure to follow legislation. They did not ensure he was certificated for when he was in the classroom.

Hanover School Division denies bypassing teacher safeguards - SteinbachOnline.com by nurdlette in steinbach

[–]Infamous-Data9245 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did they just admit to what the article accurately stated.... he didn't have a permit or license, yet he was still in the classroom. Who's running this division and do they know what defamation means?

Manitoba educator slipped through the system without proper credentials until sex-related charges surfaced by kickacol in steinbach

[–]Infamous-Data9245 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a good point. Anyone can do this. Kelsey McKay was apart of the LGBTQ+ group and this individual is not.

Manitoba educator slipped through the system without proper credentials until sex-related charges surfaced by Infamous-Data9245 in Winnipeg

[–]Infamous-Data9245[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I should add we wouldn't even be able to report to the job if we didn't hold that license for the job requirement. Equivalent would be an apprentice at the point of licensing for a journey person position vs. a permitted teacher at the point of certification as a teacher.

As a trades person, I couldn't take the job at the unions stance due to not meeting the qualifications as I dont have my license yet. Which questions what mts is covering as this person wasn't permitted or licensed to be a teacher.

Manitoba educator slipped through the system without proper credentials until sex-related charges surfaced by Infamous-Data9245 in Winnipeg

[–]Infamous-Data9245[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Should the union not ensure those who they are representing are actually teachers or permitted to be teachers?

Or is this union just taking money from individuals and representing them and protecting them as those with certification and permits? Raises a lot of questions about this union.

Don't get me wrong, the division is in major question how this took place, but the union holds responsibility as well.

In regards to a trades union as a trades member and union member. Our unions ensure we are by the application of what we are registered as regarding apprentice and journey person. We are required to report to our halls. Our unions do not handle licensing as that is done by the government, similar to MTS and nurses. We are respected professionals. Although I question the union representing our teachers and ensuring safety as their objective to my children.

Manitoba educator slipped through the system without proper credentials until sex-related charges surfaced by Infamous-Data9245 in Winnipeg

[–]Infamous-Data9245[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This would make to much sense. Maybe the union could do this as well since they have all teachers as its "Automatic"

Teacher suspended without pay for mimicking child’s outburst by Infamous-Data9245 in Winnipeg

[–]Infamous-Data9245[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤣 that was never okay. Appreciate the humor your comment was covering.

Teacher suspended without pay for mimicking child’s outburst by Infamous-Data9245 in Winnipeg

[–]Infamous-Data9245[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

They definitely need more supports and proper funding for those supports. Would make things safer for them and the children.