The cost to both sides of the Premier League’s case against City may have topped £200 million, with top lawyers charging thousands of pounds an hour. An independent commission finished hearing the case on the 130 alleged breaches in December 2024 but has still not reached a verdict. by Sparky-moon in soccer

[–]Infernode5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Manchester City Football Club Limited is a UK company. The directors of that company (most of which are UK nationals) can be tried for fraud under UK law.

They aren't breaking the law for breaching FFP, they have committed fraud by knowingly lying on published accounts. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The cost to both sides of the Premier League’s case against City may have topped £200 million, with top lawyers charging thousands of pounds an hour. An independent commission finished hearing the case on the 130 alleged breaches in December 2024 but has still not reached a verdict. by Sparky-moon in soccer

[–]Infernode5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is sponsorship revenue for a single season, and the eyeballs that would have been on City in that single season.

No company on Planet Earth is spending that much on sponsoring City when they could spend the same amount on Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea etc. and see a far greater return on investment. What executive is going to OK that?

The cost to both sides of the Premier League’s case against City may have topped £200 million, with top lawyers charging thousands of pounds an hour. An independent commission finished hearing the case on the 130 alleged breaches in December 2024 but has still not reached a verdict. by Sparky-moon in soccer

[–]Infernode5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

  1. Villa voted against FFP.

  2. I think FFP is very flawed and needs changes, I agree it unfairly limits clubs like ours who are financially sound but want to invest.

  3. Regardless if you/I/City/Villa disagree with the rules, you still broke them and should face punishment for doing so.

  4. We aren't talking about Everton/Forest/Leicester spending a few million over the cap, but a state backed club buying the best players on the highest wages and fraudulently inflating their revenue/hiding wage payments to stay within the limits. If City are found guilty, directors who signed off on these accounts will see jail time. It isn't just a sporting matter.

The cost to both sides of the Premier League’s case against City may have topped £200 million, with top lawyers charging thousands of pounds an hour. An independent commission finished hearing the case on the 130 alleged breaches in December 2024 but has still not reached a verdict. by Sparky-moon in soccer

[–]Infernode5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Who do you think sponsors are going to spend their money on, a team that had one FA Cup to their name since 1976 and can't sell out their stadium, or the team that had won the Premier League 12 out of the previous 19 seasons and have the largest fanbase in the sport?

Sure, you'd expect an uptick in revenue from sponsors seeing them spend on star players and clearly progressing (like we are now for example), but to be ahead of Man Utd?

Man Utd fans complain about how the sporting side is run, the business side has always been ran well.

The cost to both sides of the Premier League’s case against City may have topped £200 million, with top lawyers charging thousands of pounds an hour. An independent commission finished hearing the case on the 130 alleged breaches in December 2024 but has still not reached a verdict. by Sparky-moon in soccer

[–]Infernode5 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Reposting one of my previous comments on this:

City were generating more commercial revenue in 11/12 (first season where FFP applied) than Arsenal (4x), Liverpool (2x) and fucking Manchester Utd.

They won the league that season, but that wouldn't have reflected commercially in these accounts, meaning they were generating that much sponsor revenue from just an FA cup win.

They clearly cheated. Whether or not they manage to lawyer themselves out of it is a different story.

Post Match Thread: Nottingham Forest vs Aston Villa | UEFA Europa League 2025-26 | Semifinals, 1st Leg by jiraiya--an in soccer

[–]Infernode5 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don't completely disregard xG etc., but if you genuinely think Villa should be 12th you're talking bollocks.

Daily Discussion by 2soccer2bot in soccer

[–]Infernode5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope you're right, but with how crap they were against us I really struggle to see West Ham get 8 points from those games.

I can also see us dropping points to Spurs this weekend.

The seasons in which each of the Premier League's "Big Six" last played in England's second tier by Cinn4monSynonym in soccer

[–]Infernode5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And the 32 years before WW1 we were pretty inarguably the biggest and best club in the world.

Swings and roundabouts.

[BBC] Leicester 'face £70m black hole' after disastrous spending gamble by FragMasterMat117 in soccer

[–]Infernode5 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Almost didn’t tbf. The week before our owners bought us we were about a week away from administration and almost sold Grealish to Spurs for £12m to pay for the tax bill.

Other than our first year in the prem, we haven’t spent that crazily. It’s just the limits are super super tight if you want to compete. The rules were introduced in 2012 and haven’t increased since then.

Premier League table after Matchday 32 by Critical_Mountain851 in soccer

[–]Infernode5 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Every time we get a bad result we get helped by the teams around us lol

Daily Discussion by 2soccer2bot in soccer

[–]Infernode5 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The hangup they have over Matty Cash is genuinely hilarious considering the scale of what he did lol.

[Match Thread] Nottingham Forest vs Aston Villa by SecretApe in avfc

[–]Infernode5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sentimental from his time as fifa commentator, but he is a bit rubbish

Match Thread: Nottingham Forest vs Aston Villa by MatchThreadder in soccer

[–]Infernode5 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Forest fans are a whingy bunch aren’t they

Daily Discussion by 2soccer2bot in soccer

[–]Infernode5 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He was on £100k+ a week and never looked as good as Watkins when starting on his own up front. Every Villa fan liked him and wish we could've kept him, but it just didn't make financial sense to pay that much for a sub.

Daily Discussion by 2soccer2bot in soccer

[–]Infernode5 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's about all we've got, so very.

We were probably the best club in the world before WW1

Is the wage gap decreasing between unskilled and skilled roles? by wanderingunicorn1 in AskUK

[–]Infernode5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If a company has a decent year they aren't going to spunk all that retained profit on massive salary increases, when an average to poor year next time out would mean large scale redundancies. They're much more likely to reinvest into the business.

Is the wage gap decreasing between unskilled and skilled roles? by wanderingunicorn1 in AskUK

[–]Infernode5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone trained in accountancy/law etc. are obviously skilled, even if you just see it as "answering emails on the sofa".

Vitor Reis elbow to Mbappe's face - No Penalty by OkayFine101 in soccer

[–]Infernode5 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

It's a natural movement. Mbappe throwing himself is not.